>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK.
(APPLAUSE).
>> Stephen: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I HOPE EVERYBODY OUT
THERE IS JUST AS EXCITED AS I AM BECAUSE PIE FIRST GUEST TONIGHTS
ARE ICONS OF BOTH STAGE AND SCREEN.
THEY NOW STAR TOGETHER IN "THE GOOD LIAR."
>> ENOUGH, IT IS NECESSARY TO TASTE YOURS GRANDMOTHER FOR MORE
DANGERS.
>> YOU DON'T KNOW HIM.
>> I MAKE MY OWN CHOICES.
AND I DON'T NEED YOUR PERMISSION.
IF YOU CAN'T RESPECT THAT, THEN I THINK IT IS JUST AS WELL AS WE
DON'T SEE EACH OTHER FOR AWHILE.
>> OBVIOUSLY I'M INTRUDING.
>> DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE?
I WILL BE ANY PERSON ON THIS PLANET THAT MAKES ME FEEL-- .
>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME HELEN MIRREN AND IAN McKELLEN.
(APPLAUSE) (APPLAUSE).
>> Stephen: COME NOW.
WELL, IT IS SO LOVELY TO SEE YOU BOTH.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO ENJOY THIS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD
MORE THAN ME.
BECAUSE I HAVE INTERVIEWED BOTH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY BUT NEVER
TOGETHER.
I FEEL I SHOULD BE WEARING A SUNSCREEN OR SOMETHING.
>> WE HAVE NEVER DONE AN INTERVIEW LIKE THIS BEFORE
TOGETHER EITHER.
>> Stephen: YOU HAVE NEVER DONE A MOVIE BEFORE TOGETHER, I
FIND THAT SO HARD TO BELIEVE.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: TWO GIANTS IN YOUR OWN CRAFT, BOTH WHO LIVE IN
LONDON, WHY IS THIS THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE EVER DONE
TOGETHER?
>> YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST THE WAY IT HAPPENS, ISN'T IT WE HAVE
BEEN SWIMMING IN THE SAME RIVER FOR A LONG TIME, ALL OF OUR
CAREERS, OBVIOUSLY.
IAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HUGELY ADMIRED ACTOR FOR MY WHOLE LIFE,
YOU KNOW.
AND I WAS FOLLOWING ALONG, WATCHING HIM BE BRIL YENT.
-- BRILLIANT.
(APPLAUSE) >> WE DID DO A PLAY TOGETHER ON
BROADWAY.
>> Stephen: ON STAGE, RIGHT HERE.
>> DANCING AWAY.
>> BUT NEVER IT A MOVIE.
>> Stephen: AN ARE YOU BOTH RENOWNED SHAKE SPEERSIAN ACTORS,
IS THERE A PART YOU NEVER GOT TO PLAY IN SHAKESPEARE THAT YOU
STILL THINK OH, I WANT TO BE.
>> JUDE AS AND I'M LOOKING FOR ROMEO.
-- JULYETTE AND I'M LOOKING FOR A ROMEO.
>> Stephen: RISE FAIR SON.
I'M READY.
>> ALSO, PROBABLY ALSO JULIETTE, I NEVER PLAYED JULIETTE BUT ALSO
HAMLET.
>> Stephen: AMERICA'S NEXT JULIETTE.
>> MAYBE WE DO IT A ROMEO AND JULIETTE.
>> YOU WANT TO PLAY JULIETTE, THAT IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
ANYWAY, HAMLET, LEAR, CORIALANE SURKS.
>> I PLAYED ALL OF THOSE PARTS.
>> OF COURSE YOU HAVE, YOU ARE A MAN, YOU GET TO PLAY THOSE.
>> Stephen: YOU PLAYED PROSPH, RA.
>> I DID PLAY-- .
>> Stephen: MY APOLOGIES FOR MY-- YOU ALSO EACH HAVE SOME
VERY INTERESTING INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS OF YOUR OWN.
I KNOW THAT YOU HELEN ARE PLAYING KATHERINE THE GREAT IN
THE NEW HBO MINI SERIES THAT PREMIERED LAST MONTH.
>> YES, YES.
WE ARE REINSTATING HER REPUTATION, SHE WAS VERY
MALIGNED BY HISTORY.
>> Stephen: TERRIBLE RUMORS.
>> REALLY BAD, YOU PROBABLY ALL HEARD THEM.
BUT ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE.
AND WHAT VERY OFTEN HAPPENS TO SUCCESSFUL WOMEN IN POWER IS
THAT THEY GET DE MEANED AND DIMINISHED OFTEN THROUGH
SEXUALITY AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO KATHERINE.
KATHERINE WAS ACTUALLY AN UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT.
>> Stephen: WHAT MADE HER GREAT.
>> THE FACT THAT SHE EXPANDED THE EMPIRE OF RUSSIA THAT IS WHY
SHE BECAME -- >> Stephen: THAT IS HAPPENING
AGAIN.
>> AND SHE WASN'T RUSSIAN.
SHE WAS GERMAN.
>> YES, SHE WAS.
>> SHE SHE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY WOMAN AND YOU KNOW, WATCH T FIND
OUT MORE ABOUT HER.
>> IT IS BRILLIANT.
>> Stephen: AND IAN, OF COURSE, ME OW.
ARE YOU PLAYING GUS THE THEATER CAT IN THE HIGHLY ANTICIPATED
CATS.
NOW WE ARE IDRIS ALL BA ON AWHILE BACK TALKING ABOUT HIS
TRAINING THAT HE WENT TO WHAT THEY CALL CAT SCHOOL, HE SAID.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: TO LEARN TO YOU TO MOVE LIKE A CAT, HOW DID CAT
SCHOOL GO FOR YOU.
>> HE IS A PROFESSIONAL.
I DIDN'T BOTHER GOING TO SCHOOL.
I JUST FOUND MY INNER PUSSY.
(APPLAUSE) >> AND YOU FOUND IT.
>> AND I FOUND IT, YES, I DID.
WELL, THE THING ABOUT CATS IS IF YOU SAW THE JOE, DID YOU EVER
SEE IT ON STAGE.
>> HAVE I NOT.
>> WELL, IT'S ALL ABOUT CATS BUT THE.
>> HENCE THE TITLE.
>> ALTHOUGH I PREFER TO SEE A SHOW CALLED DOGS, WOULDN'T YOU
LIKE TO SEE THAT.
>> Stephen: I WOULD.
>> WOULDN'T THAT BE LOVELY.
BUT THE POINT IS THESE ARE ACTORS WHO ARE PLAYING CATS,
THEY ARE NOT CATS.
AND SO WE-- .
>> Stephen: HOLD ON, LET ME.
>> PROCESS THAT FOR A MOMENT, YOU GOT A LITTLE TECHNICAL FOR
ME.
>> IT MEANS WE WALK ON TWO LEGS RATHER THAN FOUR, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND I PROMISE YOU, JUDI-- I DENCH DOES NOT VEY TAIL, NOR DO
I.
THOUGH I WOULD RATHER LIKE ONE, DON'T YOU THINK IT IS TERRIBLY
RATHER FUN.
>> Stephen: I WOULD LOVE A TAIL IF I COULD USE IT LIKE A
PREHENCE IL MONKEY TAIL SO I COULD HANG FROM THINGS.
PICK THINGS UP OFF THE FLOOR.
>> BE WONDERFUL, YES.
>> Stephen: LIKE AN ELEPHANT TRUNK.
>> WAVE AT PEOPLE WITH IT WITHOUT USING YOUR HAND.
>> Stephen: NO, YOU NEED A VERY GOOD TAIL-ER.
NOW WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY, THE GOOD LIAR, THE GOOD
LIAR, NOT AYE SHAKESPEAREAN ACTOR HAS SOME TWISTS AND TURNS
IN IT AND WITHOUT GOING INTO ANY DETAILS, ARE THE TWO OF YOU GOOD
LIARS?
>> YOU MEAN-- .
>> WE AREN'T, REALLY, ARE WE.
WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD LIARS.
HAVE I TO SAY.
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
>> REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WE MET.
>> THE VERY FIRST TIME WE MET.
>> I COULDN'T QUITE BELIEVE IT.
HELEN CAME ON TO ME RATHER STRONGLY.
>> I DID.
I FANCIED HIM.
WELL, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A VERY FAMOUS ACTOR AND I WAS JUST
STARTING OUT IN MY CAREER.
AND IAN I THINK WAS APPEARING ON TELEVISION.
>> AND I WAS GOING THROUGH STAGE, I WASN'T QUITE SURE ABOUT
MY SEXUALITY.
AND HELEN KNOWS, IT WAS TORRID.
>> IT WASN'T TORRID.
>> OH T WAS FOR ME.
>> I'M SCO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> IT WAS JUST A PHASE I WAS GOING THROUGH.
>> ANYWAYS, SO IT WAS SHIPS THAT PASS IN THE NIGHT, HONEST, A
DARK RAINY NIGHT IN MANCHESTER AND WE ALL WERE COMPLETELY
LYING.
>> Stephen: DID YOU NOT HAVE SEX WITH EACH OTHER.
>> WE NEVER MET IN MANCHESTER.
>> OKAY.
>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT.
THAT WAS-- HAD ME CONFUSED.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT MUCH.
WHAT, IS ACTING LYING?
>> NO, NO.
>> Stephen: YOU ARE MAKING THINGS UP.
>> IT IS TELLING THE TRUTH.
>> IT IS A TRUTH ABOUT LIFE AND HUMANITY AND ABOUT THE WAY WE
BEHAVE WITH EACH OTHER.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY-- SHAKESPEARE TELLS THE TRUTH, DOESN'T HE.
AND SO OUR JOB AS ACTORS.
>> SHE IS BEING A VERY, VERY GOOD AT SELECTING PARTS TO SHOW
TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND ANIMALS WILL DO THIS.
BUT HUMAN ANIMALS DO.
ANYWAY YOU THINK WHEN ARE YOU A KID, THE VOCABULARY THAT YOU
EFFORTLESSLY USE WITH YOUR FAMILY AT HOME IS NOT THE SAME
LANGUAGE AS YOU USE WITH YOUR FRIENDS ON THE PLAYGROUND, IS
IT.
YOU SELECT PARTS OF YOURSELF.
YOU SELECT WHAT COSTUME YOU ARE GOING TO WEAR, WE ARE ALL
ACTIN STAGE, STEPHEN, AND ALL THE MEN
AND WOMEN, HOW CAN I PUTi] IT.
>> MERELY PLAYERS.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK, PLEASE YOU TWO LOVELIES
DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE HELEN MIRREN AND IAN McKELLEN,