today
is from g
sag while these of the iroquois confederacy
isn't ours was a wealthy society no one suffered from want
all had the right to food clothing shelter all share in the bounty of the
spiritual ceremonies in the natural world
no one student any material relationship of power over anyone else
no one could deny anyone
access to the things they needed all in all the for the columnist came
ours was a beautiful rewarding way of life
and if this is something that if you take
thomas jefferson's diaries and juxtaposed them with the jury
bernstein's guns germs and steel
uh... you know there's did the the initiative all the the early
european look at native americans in and there wasn't a super early but it's one
of them
and uh... and then check out
peter farms book uh... demands rice a civilization which is i think the best
ethnography the best
you know
social look at and other native americans
uh... are were in north america lived at point a first contact at the time that
they were first arbor europeans
what u what you get
and then you look at the history of the of the north american continent what
happened to the sloth the three toed sloth and what happened to a
to the uh... with uh... because american version of the woolly mammoths
and you know what happened to the saber toothed tigers and what have you know
word where they are though
and it sure looks like if you look at the historical record and you look at
the
at the geologic record
that human beings came to north america twenty to thirty thousand years ago and
i think the uh... you know there's a consensus or mean that there was
uh... you know
possibly one way they came in a south america
uh... apeksha dicey
and another way to came over the bering strait from the north and but in any
case it did
datians came to north america
between twenty and thirty thousand years ago
and
proceeded to basically
wipe out much of the ecosystem
of at least the north american continent lisa our party and united states part
that there really temperate comfortable part of the north martin connor
and the result of that was environmental collapse
you know in a lot of places
i never there were a major like mom building is edited down and uh... what
is now in new orleans they'd big group they were building pyramids that did in
some cases were almost as big as the pyramids of egypt
they were just made out of break so that they enough they they whether wale the
someone still exist
and they're all over north america
so if you know you had these elaborate societies and and they died at their own
hand
by a pipe destroying their economy consistent by killing off the large
animals they could be pray
and what came out of that
was a forehead slapping a holy cow how did we do this to ourselves
and what came out at that
let's figure out a way it'll to live
that makes sense
and the case the required for example
there was
there was this uh...
this fellow the stopper
was his name in english by
and sorry i do not idon't i'm doing this remember enough note side don't have
uh... is accurate and uh... it's a long difficult lastname in new york
originally required
his assistant the fellow who spoke on his behalf was named by a lot but not
the one of
long for follows poem
and
he came to the airport people in bayonne is kind of jesus like figure basically
or at least in legend
said here's how to live
you know here's how to make things happen here's here's
haha okay
uh... if europe if you try to call interview try to call in by the way just
you know were
our phone system just crash or rebooted so give us a shout back
uh... yankees
he he he basically came he said okay here's the system you know here's the e
much like
logging a much like moses senility curable lots
and all and one of the laws is anything you do
you have to do thinking of what its consequence will be any decision you
make you must make in the context of the seventh generation from now
and others we don't
we don't leave this earth to our children we are borrowing it
from them
and not just our children but our grandchildren great-grandchildren are
very great grand children and so forth seven generations dot
and
that was the that you know that was the core of most of the law of the year
quite confederacy
and so they end up with a three branch
governmental system
basically a legislature judiciary an executive as it were
the executive was the most
obligated to everybody person it's really interesting when you when you
look at the power relationships
in new york why confederacy and this is labeled really really well doc peter for
me to bring joe documenting a bit
i regard to write about it at some length in my book the last hours pension
sunlight night went back and i you know
jefferson wrote about the since diaries that i was just fascinating stuff
if you were the chief
that meant that you had the greatest obligation to everybody
you were the poorest
anything you owned belong to everybody
you were the person and it 'cause nobody's wealth and ever everybody
shared everything
there was this genuine sense of community
and genuine sense bob ligation
and when people
started
trying to lock up the food whence people started boarding things when people
the the air quick identified that as a mental illness
they did away with web in and those people lovely if they couldn't be cured
they were banished
they also i there also do away with war
they still had to have ways of suv solving tribal conflicts in travel
complex and spend inter-clan traffic complex and they did it
with a game that they invented
that we still in plane or the merits cola crops
and in fact hanging in the national gallery here in washington d_c_ is just
tryin paint was painted like in the eighteen thirties or eighteen fifties
of this giant here quite confederacy
ten thousand
uh... young warriors
claim across was a four-day lacrosse team
really fit so it's likely they have this pic created this
he co-starred tuesday destroyed their environment
learned from in chiapas sustainable way of living that's what gives me hope
you're listening to the com hardman program colleagues execs nineteen
seventy-eight yo ambitious personally i think were have reliving the whole thing
you were on the edge of ecological economic
and and human disasters that we will wake up