THERE WITH THE STATE OF HAWAII.
THAT THERE WAS ATTENTION WILL
TALK TO US ABOUT ONE THING.
TO THAT WITH THE TALK ABOUT
THIS HAWAII SITUATION.
AS AN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY
EXPERT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF
THIS BANK MISTAKE?
>> ACTUALLY HAD OPINIONS ABOUT
THIS FOR A WHILE.
FIRST WHEN THE JAPANESE STARTED
DOING DRILLS AND THEN WHEN
HAWAII ANNOUNCED THEY WERE
GOING TO DO DRILLS I NEVER
THOUGHT THIS WAS A VERY GOOD
IDEA.
ON THE GROUND, IS NOT GOING TO
DO ANYTHING TO PREVENT YOU FROM
BEING KILLED.
BY A NUCLEAR WEAPON!
YOU HAVE A BIG CIVIL DEFENSE
PROGRAM IN THE US.
WE ABANDONED IT.
BECAUSE IT JUST DID NOT MAKE
ANY SENSE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO
DEFENSE.
AGAINST NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
AND, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES
WHEN YOU DO HAVE THIS.
MAY BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEALTH
EMERGENCIES AS A RESULT OF
THIS.
MAYBE PEOPLE WHO SUFFER
PSYCHOLOGICAL INJURY.
CHILDREN OR EXPECTANT MOTHERS
OR THOSE WITH PRE-EXISTING
MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS.
THERE ARE REAL CONSEQUENCES TO
SCARING THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE.
I JUST DO NOT THINK IT WILL
MATTER.
I MEAN IF THERE WAS A NUCLEAR
ATTACK, THERE'S NOTHING
HAWAIIANS CAN DO THAT WOULD
CHANGE THE OUTCOME.
>> ALL RIGHT, WHAT CAN
HAWAIIANS DO FOR THAT MATTER,
WHAT CAN PEOPLE IN ALASKA,
ATTACK AS WE HAVE HEARD FROM
THE THREATENING REGIME OF NORTH
KOREA?
THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO.
I KNOW THAT IS A MESSAGE PEOPLE
DO NOT WANT TO HEAR BUT IT IS
BEEN TRUE SINCE THE BEGINNING
OF THE NUCLEAR AGE.
>> LET ME INTERRUPT YOU ONE
MOMENT.
>> THERE IS SO TRAFFIC PEOPLE
DO NOT APPRECIATE.
LOOK AT THE PICTURES FROM
HIROSHIMA.
>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING ABOUT A NUCLEAR ATTACK.
MY POINT IS, MY QUESTION IS,
WHAT SHOULD THE UNITED STATES
BE DOING RIGHT NOW TO PREVENT
THE NUCLEAR BUILDUP THAT WE
KNOW IS TAKING PLACE IN NORTH
BECAUSE THINGS HAVE PAUSED
BECAUSE OF THE OLYMPICS.
MAYBE THAT WILL CARRY MOMENTUM
FORWARD BUT MAYBE NOT.
THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT
OURSELVES IS MAKE SURE THAT WE
FREEZE NORTH KOREA'S PROGRAM SO
IT DOES NOT GROW ANY LARGER.
AND MORE SOPHISTICATED.
THEN BEGIN PUT RESTRAINTS.
BUT STEP NUMBER ONE IS TO PAUSE
AND FREEZE AND TRY TO PUT THIS
ON A DIFFERENT TRACK.
IT IS A LESSON THE NUCLEAR AGE
THAT PEOPLE FIND REALLY HARD TO
ACCEPT.
FOR MILLENNIA WE WERE ALWAYS
ABLE TO RELY ON DEFENSES.
TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
IN THE NUCLEAR AGE WEAPONS ARE
SO POWERFUL YOU HAVE TO USE
OTHER WAYS.
HE HAD TO USE DIPLOMACY.
BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEFENSE.
>> HAS TODAY'S FALSE ALARM,
ENLIGHTENED US ABOUT THIS
SERIOUSNESS OF ANY POTENTIAL
THREAT FROM NORTH KOREA, FOR
THAT MATTER, ANY OTHER ROGUE
QUESTION.
AND I HOPE MORE PEOPLE WILL
ANGELA BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THIS
REALLY MEANS.
TO PREPARE FOR A NUCLEAR
ALL TIED TO THE SAME SUBJECT.
I THINK AS AMERICANS WE HAVE
SORT OF FORGOTTEN AND VERY FEW
PEOPLE ARE LEFT FROM HIROSHIMA
AND NAGASAKI.
I THINK IF THERE IS ANY GOOD
THAT COMES FROM THIS FALSE