Divorce in a country like Russia is 60% of all marriages yes you heard
that correct, 60 percent
So welcome to Odessa, Ukraine and a glorious
late summer's evening it's actually autumn we have an Indian summer here
in Odessa in Ukraine it's been fantastic over 20 degrees celsius
and yes you did read the title correctly why is divorce
so high in a country like Ukraine or Russia or Belarus
especially in light of we'll say marriage agencies or other charlatans in
general online trying to persuade you that they
are the ideal wife traditional wife with all these
traditional values on how is it possible that
the divorce rates are so high they are basically the highest in the world
with a few exceptions like some island nations or just a small
western european country but believe it or not
divorce in a country like Russia is 60% of all marriages yes you heard
that correct 60% so this video is basically going to
be kind of like a two-part series because
it's going to address more of these little issues
to do with what's known as red pill or mgtow philosophy and how they frame
say dating in the West versus dating in the east of
Europe it's not to say I disagree with everything that they say of course
there's a lot of valid points there and I'll go inside a bit more detail in
the next vodcast but in this one I want to deal particularly with marriage and the
divorce rate because with divorce rates being so
high in Eastern Europe obviously that clashes with the notion
that women are traditional here otherwise why does it
end up being so high a divorce rate and in particular mgtow or
it's kind of a subset of red pill philosophy you don't know what that is I will
address it a bit more in the next video for the purposes of
this one they basically see that women in the West use men
primarily because of divorce laws being more favorable towards women in general
in most Western countries and they use that anchor of marriage as
a way to get resources from men that would be one of
the main points that they bring up when they
discuss dating between men and women in the West
now they present Eastern European women Slavic women as these
unicorns some would say that there are just a few unicorns if you're gonna find
them you're gonna find them here and they promote the idea that they
have traditional values in contrast to say feminism in the West which a lot
more ingrained I have other vodcasts about why you don't see extreme
feminism here in or radical feminism here in
Eastern Europe I'll link it up above in a card and down below in the
description you know a link so you can go and watch that
after this one so that's the way they frame it
so how is it possible that say the divorce rate is hovering somewhere
between 40 and 50 percent in most big Western countries like we take the US
we take the United Kingdom if we take Germany like France but here it is a
whopping 60% in well I looked it up in Russia it's
actually over 60 percent here in Ukraine the stats I saw basically
had it between 55 and 60% as well same for Belarus
also in the high 50s so what is going on?
are these women still really the traditional ideal wife as they're
promoted by a lot of other online
we'll say dating advisors I wouldn't call them dating gurus but a lot of those who
commentate particularly from the more red
pill mgtow angle so what are the reasons
that lead to a high divorce rate here in Eastern Europe now the first one is
in general people tend to get married younger
so that isn't necessarily to do with that is actually I guess
traditional value the fact that women they don't defer getting married as long
as they do in the West because they don't focus on their career
traditionally in the last we'll say since the end of communism obviously
things changed because in the Soviet Union all
women in effect had to work so now they got basically the option not
to work if they don't want to or if they find a guy maybe to
subsidize their lifestyle and give them those what I've started to call
princess values or fake traditional values where they talk about the man
providing but really not doing those traditional
female roles that would have been associated with
more things in the house I have other vodcasts about that of course I'll
link them up above and below where I go into more
detail now they do of course tend to prioritize looking after child in the
first few years more than I would say in general
in the West but since they tend to get married younger that means they're
actually with someone for a lot more years in general I guess
if you start young you're going to be probably married a bit
longer if ceteris paribus of course and you know if you get married younger
you don't really know what you want or who's going to be a good fit for you and
there is more room or more time for that person
to change your partner and then actually not be such a good match and that
is something that is probably a big contributing factor is
that they get married traditionally younger here
which is as I said traditional traditionally what would have happened
in the West maybe well it would have been a good
few years ago would have been maybe I guess 50 or 60 years ago we would have
maybe women getting married between 20 18 and 21 in general as opposed to today
where obviously the marriage age is probably
even over 30 now that has been changing I looked it
up online for Russia in particular now actually Russian women
in the big cities in particular tend to be getting married in their late 20s
and actually late 20s early 30s so this isn't actually a big
difference if you look at it right now today but of course this trend only
started in the last decade in Russia so obviously the
divorces that have been happening in the last few years are ones where
obviously it goes back where people married for at least a few years so they
probably had still been getting married a good bit younger now the second reason
that I can see that divorce rates are going to be higher in
Russia than the West is actually it's a lot easier
to get a divorce in a country like Russia I'm talking about Eastern Europe in
general also in Ukraine I know it's just it's more of a formality almost
isn't as complicated as in a lot of Western countries now
I used to work as a lawyer so I understand that obviously the law
differs in every single country and not everything is extreme maybe
in terms of division of property and alimony as it is in some American states
in other countries say in Western Europe it's not that extreme in terms of
favoring women over men and not that actually easy especially in
the country like I was born in Ireland it tends to be a lot
tends to be a little bit more complicated in terms of getting divorced
in terms of time and going through court procedures than it is here in
Eastern Europe in particular in Russia where you can actually get it done
really really quickly in a couple of months and actually
you can get basically a divorce before you really have to
haggle over the property and say the alimony and kids
that doesn't tend to happen in most Western countries normally it's only at
the end so basically it's a lot easier and one other thing that comes up a lot
with red pill or mgtow guys when they talk about dating in the
West and it's not that I disagree with them
but they always emphasize that women are more likely to
initiate the divorce than men they normally start to think around 70
percent and it's actually higher in Russia
it's 80 percent 80% are initiated by women so it's even
higher than it is in the West from what I
can see statistically at least there isn't a huge difference so again
that is another thing that happens so it's easier that's the second thing and
actually women are going to take advantage of that apparently
just as much here if not more than in the West so you're probably asking
yourself Conor but I heard that men don't get divorced raped divorce
rape basically they don't get exploited as much in the court system here in
family law than they do in general in the West and that is true
things like alimony and actually the enforcement of the law is
lower here in terms of absentee dads guys who run off basically and
don't pay any alimony don't contribute it is harder here probably
than it is in the West but when it comes to division of marital
property like property acquired after the marriage
it's pretty much from what I can see similar here and actually a lot of alimony
is reasonably high when I looked at the rules in Russia in theory now in
practice you just don't have that culture in the
courts here in Eastern Europe in terms of being maybe more draconian towards
men so that should lower the incentive women
to initiate the divorce you would think because they have less
to gain from maybe financially but as I said 80 percent in Russia divorces
initiated by women actually what you'll see as well is I've
seen a few cases of Russian women or Eastern European
women who were married to local guys who were oligarchs and they
actually had a nexus like a link with the United Kingdom in
terms of maybe property or they were resident there
and they initiated their divorces not here in Eastern Europe but actually in
in England so another thing that will come up a lot
with mgtow is that they'll talk about or red pill or just a lot of guys who
comment under my videos it's like the problem is that when you move
like you bring your spouse from Eastern Europe to the West
and basically she will become like the women in the West or feminized what not
and basically she would figure out how to
get those acquire those assets through the divorce courts through family law courts
but actually basically it seems like they probably
already figured that out in general if they are that way
inclined if they are actually really really keen to get your
resources so basically in summary divorce rates and actually being a
single mom it's pretty much the same in Eastern
Europe as it's going to be in in the West if not even maybe a
little bit higher so that's probably going to surprise you
it also actually surprised me that it's actually higher because of all
the comments I see or all the videos you see online tell me there are these
unicorns out here where things are not the same because of family law as a
lawyer I agree that there is definitely more
incentives to get divorced as a woman in the West
but as it turns out divorce culture is
pretty strong here now why should you care well it's kind of
what I alluded to if you do marry if you come here in
the first place thinking hey they're all these unicorns and
you know they don't have feminism as much and
yeah they all want they're all traditional valued as is
probably sold to you if you're looking at the website of a
disingenuous marriage agency should we say of course I did some videos with
a couple that I think are actually genuine so if you're going to ... or are that
way inclined then definitely go and check the links below in the description also
up in the card to the videos I did with those particular
matchmaking services but basically if you come with that
mentality you're probably going to get fleeced
even before the marriage right because that's what happens a lot
in Eastern Europe with the traditional values it's basically men lead
they tend to pay for things but if you come with that this is traditional I'm
the provider then unfortunately a lot of the women
who want to exploit those kind of guys whether it happens
to be local or foreign they're going to target
you now I'm not saying as a caveat that actually most women are like that in
Eastern Europe in spite of the divorce rate
being so high it's not my experience but they don't tend to go in general
seeking foreign men because they can find men
here they're actually really are more traditional so they're gonna go
with a local guy in general so especially if you
don't speak Russian or Ukrainian and you come here you don't have experience then
you have to be very careful because those kind of women will exploit
that mindset that they see that you are looking for that kind of more
traditional valued woman so I guess a good way to sum up this video
is you should really question whether you want to get married in the West or
the east of Europe if divorce rates are going to be that high
you should at least if you are going to take the plunge and
actually go and have a marriage take the the appropriate legal measures to
protect yourself if you are worried about say your property
or being basically exploited yeah like what happened happens a lot in
the West at the moment in the family law courts where
basically you'll end up just being a provider without maybe getting
so much access to whatever children you might have with the woman that you meet
here so you definitely take those prudent
steps so you really need to ask yourself why do you want to get married whether
it's in the West or in the East take appropriate legal
protection measures before you get married anywhere because
the idea that women here are traditional in the sense that they're going looking
for a man to be married forever there are a lot of those women but the
reality is that divorce rates they're just as high at the end of the
day for the reasons I outlined and things like single moms all
this if that's what you're looking for of
course there's nothing wrong with marrying someone
who is a single mom in Ukraine don't come here thinking that it's
the the land that time forgot and that things are like in
I don't know in your grandma's time I actually read a great quote recently
where a guy quipped that when you meet a slavic
woman you should look at her grandma her babushka
and look at her to see what she will look like in the future
but not how she will behave because if you think that like i like to joke
that Italian guys it's probably almost like cliched in my videos that Italian
guys tend to cook better than younger Ukrainian women today don't
think that's going to be the mindset I don't want to see you
you know get absolutely fleeced first of all when you arrive here and then
afterwards if you have you know you're a bit naive in who you
marry because if you end up with a gold digger
you end up with a gold digger so that is a way for me to segue into
my recent course that I finished up I guess about two months ago called
Slavic Seduction Secrets where we actually went into how to attract
high quality sincere beautiful women here in Eastern Europe
I did have my first bootcamp which was ScamBuster Secrets where actually we
figured out how to I taught the guys who participated how
to vet and absolutely 100% filter out those scammers
the girls are actually just really after your money whether they're
actually going to rob you basically or if they're going to go the longer
they're in for the longer run with a bit more gold digging mentality
so basically if you want to be invited
or get the opportunity to enroll in those courses the next time I open them up
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in the meantime so you can probably tell the light has started to fade on the
camera so it's a good time for me to end this video gonna be just watched
off camera another beautiful sunset on the shores of Black Sea
in Ukraine see you very soon in the next video gonna go into more detail
about how I think mgtow or red pill philosophy gets it
quite wrong in certain areas with respect to dating in Eastern Europe
that's going to be the next vodka vodcast with me, Conor Clyne, до побачення! До свидания!
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