GENUINELY
GENUINELY TERRIFIED OF INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE. I HAVE VERY BAD PROBLEMS WITH
DEPERSONALIZATION.
MOST OF THESE ARE SELF
DIAGNOSED.
I HAVE TRICHOTILLOMANIA.
TRICHOTILLOMANIA IS A DISORDER
THAT INVOLVES PULLING YOUR HAIR
AND GETTING A RELEASE OF
ENDORPHINS FROM DOING IT.
I'VE HAD TO SHAVE MY HEAD
MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT MY
LIFE TO KEEP MYSELF FROM PULLING
OUT ANYMORE HAIR.
I HAVE VERY BAD DEREALIZATION,
AND I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY REMIND
MYSELF THAT I EXIST.
I HAVE SELF DIAGNOSED MYSELF
WITH HAVING FIBROMYALGIA.
I HAVE ALWAYS HAD PARANOIA AND
ANXIETY.
I HAVE UNREALISTIC IDEOLOGY OF
THINGS LIKE BEING KILLED BY AN
ASTEROID, ATOMIC BOMBS, BEING
KILLED BY THE UNIVERSE ENDING,
AND VACUUM DECAY.
DYING OF PLAGUES.
I HAVE OBSESSIVE DISORDERS.
I WOULD DO THINGS LIKE WASH MY
HANDS IN A CERTAIN PATTERN.
ONE THING I HAVE A REALLY BIG
PROBLEM WITH IS TOUCHING DOORS.
THEY ARE VERY DIRTY.
I WON'T EVEN USE ANY PART OF MY
SKIN.
EVER SINCE THE PANDEMIC HIT, I
SLEEP, I.E. EAT, AND THAT'S
ABOUT IT
I DON'T EAT ANYTHING THAT IS
COOKED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
EVERYTHING I EAT IS PACKAGED.
WHEN I GET HOME, I HAVE TO WASH
EVERYTHING.
DR. PHIL IS AN INTELLIGENT
ENOUGH MAN TO KNOW THAT I HAVE
THESE PROBLEMS.
I WOULD LIKE HIM TO CONVEY THAT
TO MY MOTHER AND SISTERS.
I THINK HE CAN HELP PROJECT TO
THEM THESE PROBLEMS THAT I'M
GOING THROUGH ARE VERY REAL AND
AREN'T MADE UP.
>> Dr. Phil: FORREST, HOW ARE
YOU DOING TODAY?
>> I'M OKAY.
>> Dr. Phil: IF YOU WERE GOING
TO CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR
LIFE, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE IT
TO?
>> JUST TO GET UP, BE PRODUCTIVE
PRODUCTIVE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
ARE LIKE, BUT NOT ANYTHING LIKE
I AM RIGHT NOW.
>> Dr. Phil: IS THERE
SOMETHING IN YOUR LIFE YOU ARE
PASSIONATE ABOUT?
>> I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY
PASSIONATE ABOUT JEWELRY AND
MUSIC.
>> Dr. Phil: LISTENING TO
MUSIC OR MAKING MUSIC?
>> MAKING MUSIC.
PRODUCTION.
>> Dr. Phil: AND DO YOU TAKE
ANY STEPS THAT GET YOU CLOSER TO
YOUR PASSION BEING PART OF YOUR
DAY-TO-DAY LIFE?
>> NOT REALLY SO MUCH ANYMORE.
>> Dr. Phil: YOU SAY YOU HAVE
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL PROBLEMS,
AND YOU LISTED A LOT OF THEM.
THEY'VE GOTTEN WORSE OVER THE
YEARS.
THERE IS QUITE A LIST.
YOU SAY YOU ARE EMOTIONALLY
DAMAGED, THAT YOUR MOM TRIED TO
GET RID OF YOU, YOU CAN'T SEE
YOUR SON, YOU GOT NO MONEY, YOU
ARE DEPRESSED, YOU HAVE ANXIETY
ATTACKS.
ASTEROIDS MIGHT HIT YOU.
>> YEAH, I KNOW -- THESE
UNREALISTIC SCENARIOS I HAVE,
I'M AWARE OF HOW THEY ARE NOT
FEASIBLE AND ALL, AND REALISTIC,
BUT I CAN'T CONVINCE MYSELF THEY
ARE NOT REAL TO ME, WHICH IS
SOMETHING I HAVE A REALLY HARD
TIME DEALING WITH, AND THAT
MAKES ME EVEN MORE STRESSED OUT.
>> Dr. Phil: I ASK YOU WHAT
YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT, AND
YOU SAID JEWELRY AND MUSIC, AND
YOU DIDN'T MENTION YOUR SON.
>> [SIGH]
>> Dr. Phil: YOU ARE NOT
PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR CHILD?
>> I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE
ENOUGH OF A GRASP ON MY LIFE
THAT I AM ABLE TO CARE FOR HIM
LIKE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO.
>> Dr. Phil: THE FAMILY SAYS
THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL THEIR
GRANDMA'S HOUSE THIS SUMMER.
IS FORREST OKAY WITH BEING
HOMELESS?
WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN
WE COME BACK.
>> PEOPLE THAT ARE OCD AND
GERMOPHOBES WOULD NEVER LIVE IN
THAT KIND OF A SITUATION PAIR
THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
>> IT'S TO FIGHT OVER A VERY
BROAD SPECTRUM, AND I FEEL LIKE
I WOULD SPIT INTO A CERTAIN
NICHE OF THAT.
>> THANKS FOR THAT TUTORIAL.
>> I'M SORRY.
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♪ ♪ >> I INVESTED IN THE CELL PHONE FOR FORREST WITH THE
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START PAYING THE PHONE BILLS
HIMSELF.
THE PHONE COST ME $180.
HE PAID ME BACK A LITTLE
FOUR-MONTH BUT THEN HE NEVER
PAID ANY MORE.
I FINALLY HAD TO GET IT TURNED
OFF.
>> RIGHT BEFORE WE CAME ON THE
"DR. PHIL" SHOW, HE SAID, "IF
YOU DON'T GET MY PHONE TURNED
ON, I'M NOT GOING."
THE PHONE HE DOES NOT PAY FOR,
NEVER HAS PAID FOR, AND IF SHE
DIDN'T HAND HIM $50 CASH, HE
WOULDN'T GO ON THE SHOW.
>> I AGREED TO TURN IT BACK ON
SO HE WOULD COME AND TALK
DR. PHIL.
HE USED DR. PHIL TO MANIPULATE
ME.
>> Dr. Phil: YOU'VE BEEN
LISTENING TO YOUR BROTHER
INTERACT WITH ME.
WHAT IS YOUR READ ON HIM WITH
ME?
>> I'M JUST CONFUSED.
I MEAN, YES, WE KNOW YOU HAVE
PASSIONS, BUT WHY DON'T WE SEE
THESE PASSIONS?
I JUST CAN'T PIECE THIS TOGETHER
IN MY HEAD, AND I KNOW KIKI
CAN'T.
IF YOU ARE REALLY PASSIONATE
ABOUT THESE THINGS, WHERE IS IT?
I DON'T SEE IT.
>> I FEEL LIKE MY SISTERS AND
MOTHER ARE VERY INCREDULOUS
EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH
ME, AND THAT'S VERY DISTRESSING
TO ME.
>> BECAUSE WE WANT BETTER FOR
YOU.
WE WANT THAT.
>> Dr. Phil: I HAVE SOME GOOD
NEWS.
WOULD YOU LIKE SOME GOOD NEWS?
>> YES, PLEASE.
>> Dr. Phil: WHEN I LOOK AT
YOUR DISORDERS APPEAR, THERE ARE
SOME THINGS THAT ARE
CONTRADICTIONS THAT RULE OUT A
LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU FEAR
HAVING.
YOU ARE LIVING IN A VERY
UNSANITARY SITUATION.
PEOPLE THAT ARE OCD AND
GERMOPHOBES WOULD NEVER LIVE IN
THAT KIND OF A SITUATION.
>> I AM AWARE OF THAT, AND I --
>> Dr. Phil: THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
YOU SHOULD BE RELIEVED, THAT
RULES OUT CERTAIN THINGS.
NOT EVERYTHING, BUT IT RULES OUT
CERTAIN THINGS.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S MORE
OF -- I THINK IT'S MORE OF
EMOTIONS WITH CERTAIN OCD THINGS
LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THAT TRADITIONALLY WITH
OCD YOU DO THINGS IN A CERTAIN
PATTERN, BUT OCD IS DEFINED OVER
A VERY BROAD SPECTRUM, AND I
FEEL LIKE I WOULD FIT INTO A
CERTAIN NICHE OF THAT.
>> Dr. Phil: YEAH, THANKS FOR
THAT TUTORIAL ON OCD.
>> I'M SORRY.
[LAUGHS]
>> Dr. Phil: I APPRECIATE YOU
CATCHING ME UP ON THAT.
COMING UP, FORREST'S FAMILY SAYS
HE MAY BE GOING FROM GRANDMA'S
HOUSE TO A HOMELESS CAMP.
SO WE TOOK HIM FOR A LITTLE TOUR
OF THE STREET LIFE.
HOW DID THAT GO?
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
♪ ♪
>> WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR
FORREST?
>> I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU THINK
YOU WANT THIS, YOU'RE WASTING
YOUR THOUGHT.
IF PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE HAPPY WITH
THE END OKAY WITH IT, THEY ARE
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♪ ♪ [APPLAUSE] >> Dr. Phil: THIS FAMILY WANTS
TO GET FORREST OUT OF HIS
GRANDMA'S LIVING ROOM AND ON THE
HEALTHY PATH TO SUCCESS.
I'VE INVITED SOMEONE HERE TODAY
BECAUSE I BELIEVE HE CAN HAVE A
REAL IMPACT IN FORREST'S LIFE
GOING FORWARD.
I'M TALKING ABOUT COACH MIKE
BAYER.
COACH MIKE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO
COUNTLESS SHOWS THAT WE HAVE
DONE HERE, AND HAS CHANGED THE
LIFE OF EVERY GUEST HAS
ENCOUNTERED.
HE'S JUST WRITTEN A NEW BOOK, BY
THE WAY, CALLED "ONE DECISION,"
WHICH JUST -- BY THE WAY,
CONGRATULATIONS -- IF
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" BEST SELLER
LIST.
THAT'S THE SECOND BOOK IN A ROW
TO GO ON "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
BEST SELLER LIST.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT
FORREST MIGHT BECOME HOMELESS,
SO I THOUGHT WE COULD GIVE HIM
THE EXPERIENCE.
A TASTE OF THE LEFT SIDE ON THE
STREETS OF L.A.
TAKE A LOOK.
♪ ♪
>> HEY, FORREST.
COACH MIKE, HERE.
THERE'S HUNDREDS OF HOMELESS
PEOPLE AROUND HERE.
>> I'VE SEEN THEM.
>> AND IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.
>> I NOTICED.
>> I KNOW YOU COMMUNICATED TO
YOUR FAMILY THAT YOU'D RATHER BE
HOMELESS THEN HAVE TO GET A JOB,
GET WORKING, MAKE MONEY, LIVE ON
YOUR OWN.
RIGHT?
>> IF WE ARE BEING BLATANTLY
HONEST, THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
>> DO YOU THINK IT'S HARDER TO
GET A JOB AND KEEP IT, WOULD BE
HOMELESS AND STAY SAFE?
>> PROBABLY TO GET A JOB AND
KEEP IT.
>> THIS IS COLLEEN.
>> HELLO.
HOW ARE YOU?
>> THIS IS FORREST.
HE'S SAYING HE POTENTIALLY
THINKS HE'S GOING TO END UP
HOMELESS UNLESS HE GETS IT
TOGETHER AND GET THE JOB.
WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR
FORREST?
>> I'M TELLING YOU, IF YOU THINK
YOU WANT THIS, YOU'RE WASTING
YOUR THOUGHT.
THEY SAY THEY ARE HAPPY AND OKAY
WITH IT, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HOME, YOU
DON'T HAVE THAT SAFE PLACE, YOU
DON'T HAVE THAT SAFE HAVEN.
>> COLLEEN, I APPRECIATE YOU
TALKING TO FORREST.
UNDERNEATH HERE, BUT WE HAVE IS
A TENT.
THIS IS ALL YOU.
THIS WILL GIVE YOU PRACTICE.
♪ ♪
>> IT'S DIFFICULT, AND IT'S
TAKING A LOT LONGER THAN IT
SHOULD.
>> IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME WHEN
YOUR FRIENDS AREN'T WITH YOU.
>> NO, IT'S NOT FUN AT ALL.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU DO FOR FUN?
>> SOUP KITCHENS, PROBABLY
CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS
STATIONS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HELP ME?
>> MAN, THIS IS YOUR DEAL.
IT IS GOING TO BE DARK IN A FEW
HOURS.
IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN IT STARTS TO
GET DARKER AROUND HERE.
>> WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE A
LONG TIME.
>> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT GETS
REALLY COLD?
>> THAT'S PROBABLY THE PART I'M
MOST STRESSED ABOUT.
>> I THINK WE CAN BOTH AGREE,
YOU'VE KIND OF HAD A WEAK PLAN
IN TERMS OF YOUR ABILITY TO
SURVIVE ON YOUR OWN.
ARE YOU STARTING TO HAVE A
CHANGE OF HEART MAYBE?
>> YEAH.
>> AND BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE
LEAST STRESSFUL PART.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED BEING
HOMELESS YET.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT A TENT
TOGETHER.
YOU DESERVE TO GET ON TRACK AND
GET THE LIFE THAT YOU REALLY
WANT, AND WE WILL SIT DOWN WITH
DR. PHIL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS
AN OPTION FOR YOU THAT IS GOING
TO GET YOUR LIFE ON TRACK.
>> Dr. Phil: I'VE BEEN
HOMELESS, AND I CAN TELL YOU, I
THOUGHT EVERY DAY TO KEEP MY
SHOES, MY -- I MEAN, EVERY DAY,
I HAD TO FIGHT SOMEBODY FOR
SOMETHING.
HE'S NOT CUT OUT FOR THIS.
>> THIS IS A TOUGH LIFE.
FORREST CAN HARDLY SURVIVE IN A
HOUSE, HOW WOULD HE SURVIVE ON
THE STREETS?
>> Dr. Phil: BECAUSE YOU WERE
SAYING AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS HE
GETS WOOZY BECAUSE HE DOESN'T
HAVE ANY CHICKEN NOODLE SOUP.
>> RIGHT.
>> Dr. Phil: THAT'S IN THE
LIVING ROOM OF YOUR
GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING ON
THE STREETS.
>> EVERYTHING IS