who do you think is more reliable BMW or Porsche let's talk about it now it's a
lot of great German brands out there like Volkswagen Audi Benz BMW Porsche it
leaves a lot to wonder about you know what car do I buy what is the best
selection a lot of times you're looking for shopping for value sometimes you're
looking for performance
and sometimes you're looking for reliability so Porsche and BMW are both
very monumental brands particularly the an cars versus of Porsche 911 we know
they're both awesome cars for performance drivers two of the famous
models that enthusiasts really go to time and time again but the question is
are they reliable which is more reliable BMW or Porsche now there's a lot of
outlier models we won't get into but generally as a rule we're gonna talk
about focus in on the mainstream brands for performance for the trademark
versions of each car and of course we talked about the m3 versus a Porsche 911
which one is more reliable I can share with you some of the history on what I
know on the Porsche brand and before we get to the actual ratings which we'll
share with you in a moment we'll give you some of the ratings in the breakdown
based on our friends at prepare pal who have selected a whole host of
information from models between 2010 and 2017 which are a great way to quantify
cost of ownership reliability breakdowns by unexpected visits to the shop overall
cost for maintenance per year the list goes on so they're gonna quantify that
at the end of this video however talking about the Porsche 911 I mean there's
lots of reasons why somebody would consider them unreliable I mean you can
look back into the 70s and 80s and start from there from magnesium cases with
pulled head studs compression leaks oil leaks burnt valves rubber centre
clutches that blow apart bad synchronizers and the transmission
intermediate shaft bearings broken ignition distributor belts that caused
two engine problems leaks and a whole lot of other general related issues
mixing and so on so forth Porsche is not short on failures over different models
throughout the generations and of course while I've enjoyed many many years of my
own personal Porsche 911 ownership and driven many models of 911 turbos and
standard 911s and 944 928 so I've had a lot of experience in the Porsche world
over the last 25 years not being said the BMW world we talk about the EM cars
specifically the m3 which we'll talk about today and reliability is legendary
as well for not only its performer but it's lack of reliability in places
like the vanos failures SMGs on the early cars dual clutch transmissions
that are failing in later models of course the current model has a crank hub
issue where they're backing off and becoming a problem in some versions and
you back up even to the e90 e92 m3 s with the rod bearing problems and the
throttle actuator z' BMW and the m3s have had a whole host of problems
themselves in the sense of reliability so Porsche 911 and Porsche in general
and BMW you have to really wonder are the epitome of reliability well as a
whole not overly however comparing the two which one is more reliable and it's
not just reliability that we talk about here we talk about robust now my
personal experience again before we get to the numbers Porsche 911 is always the
more robust car in my experience why because Porsches typically you could
drive them to the racetrack run the wheels off them
at an autocross or a track and aside from burning your brakes and your tires
the car will run home a BMW I don't always have that same level of
confidence BMWs tend to not survive hard driving as well as Porsche 911 at least
in my personal experience what I've seen they generally don't hold up quite as
well but we'll talk about it let's look at the numbers and let's get right to
this so referring to our friends at repair pal we talk about a Porsche 911
and the overall annual cost of maintenance the averaged out annual cost
of maintenance for a either somewhere between a 2010 and 2017 is quantified at
about one thousand one hundred and eighty four dollars a fairly significant
amount of money of course but that's standard routine maintenance oil changes
and things like that and we compare that to an industry average of about six
hundred and thirty one dollars now your frequency of breakdowns is another
discussion so that's the unexpected visits to the shop whether either on a
back of a tow truck or limping it along because it's in limp mode but an
unexpected breakdown happens in a Porsche 911 world between 2010 and 2017
approximately 1.1 times per year compare that to a 0.4 average over industry
numbers and then we talk about the severity of the issues the severity the
huge impact that you can see with a Porsche 911 breakdown how big of an
issue is that catastrophic versus is it just a weird squealing noise what is the
severity while a Porsche 911 on average again between 2010 2017 is about 17% of
the failures are severe by nature versus the 11% of the industry average
so again significantly worse than the average in industry so overall it gets a
rating of about one and a half out of five stars which puts it in a very very
weak spot in terms of reliability 1.5 stars out of five for a Porsche 911 so
let's talk about the BMW m3 and then we'll make that direct comparison so
when we talk about the average annual maintenance costs for a BMW m3 which is
a very direct competitor to the Porsche 911 we always have known that those two
go head-to-head someone argue the Porsche 911 is more
the traditional sports car but the m3 has always gone head-to-head with a 911
and so we make that comparison and its annual costs are an average of one
thousand two hundred and eighty one dollars which is actually more than
Porsches 1184 so that's where BMW actually costs more on average than your
average 911 over a year's time for maintenance costs so the frequency of
breakdowns per year with the BMW m3 rings out at a whopping 1.4 times per
year so on the average the m3 between 2010 and 2017 visits the shop almost one
and a half times per year versus the Porsche 911s 1.1 times per year again
the BMW m3 losses to the Porsche in terms of overall reliability there as
well so then we break it down to the severity of issues the severity of the
breakdown they all break down they all need attention and servicing at times
but we talk about the BMW m3s when it breaks the amount of percentage
of the time that it breaks is 16 percent of the time it is of severe nature in
other words it's a catastrophic or a significant repair that will cost you
significant amount of dollars compare that to the Porsche 911s 17 percent
likely has to do with a little bit the the fact that the Porsche 911 costs and
the premium cost of the car and the parts are commensurate of the cars cost
overall new so of course the BMW slightly less than the Porsche when
there's a catastrophic failure that being said they're very very close and
again all relative to the 11 percent industry standard
so the bmw m3 gets an overall reliability rating based on repair pal
of one star out of five very very poor for reliability versus also the 1.5
stars for the Porsche 911 so when we talk about overall reliability between
BMW and Porsche I can honestly tell you that Porsche edges out the m3 although
neither of them have stellar records the Porsche has a slightly better record
than the bmw m3 and is suggesting that it is not only more robust for hard
driving on a track but it is likely over the course of a seven-year span going to
be more reliable and cost you less in the long run than an m3 so Porsche 911
great job guys as well another contributing factor to the Porsche
phenomenon is the fact that Porsche is largely a family friends operation
I mean they've expanded out and sold off portions to investors of course
Volkswagen and all those guys have sort of gobbled up portions but Porsche was
one of the longest-lasting to maintain majority shares in the business and as a
result the company that takes a lot of personal pride in the way the car
performs such as races like LeMond and the performance cars that they put out
and sell every year they take great pride and put great steps in producing a
car that is reliable robust but most importantly performs as well as a
Porsche shut so Porsche overall reliability robustness and performance
wins over the m3 sorry guys just the facts so thanks again everybody for
watching the video the fact that they're both German cars begs the question which
one is more reliable I hope this answers it for you today everybody and I really
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