A woman who is referred only as Sally to protect her identity,
spoke with Vice about her harrowing experience as a 20 year old working for
and living with Andrew Tate, as he ran a webcam sex operation in the UK.
Now as we all know we covered the story in late December.
Andrew Tate was arrested by Romanian authorities on allegations that he
was trafficking humans women in particular.
But now we know that this wasn't his first
run in with the law back in 2015 he was arrested.
Tate was arrested for an assault that Sally actually witnessed in 2015 but
unfortunately the case was never prosecuted.
Here is sally sharing her story with Vice.
>> First night that I worked for him and you brought me like five bottles of wine.
So I got completely drunk because I've never done webcam work, so
I was very very nervous.
Then that night we were just sitting on the bed and
Andrew punched me in my arm, I went to the bathroom and cried.
It really hurt to have someone just hit me in the arm for no reason,
I was very confused.
Sorry, that night we cuddled and we ended up having sex and
I was really really drunk, that was my first night.
>> Not only did she allegedly experience his abuse personally,
she says that she also witnessed him abusing others,
and she talks about that in the next video.
>> When we moved into the bigger apartment that's when more girls started coming
into the apartment to work for Andrew.
And that's when I just witnessed so much like verbal physical,
not just to me, but the other women involved and
it just got worse over time and you would call us lazy hoes.
I saw him smack girls with a belt because she wanted a lion.
He used to used to strangle us as.
>> Yeah, I'm not sure why they didn't do a thorough investigation and
prosecute him for these allegations in the UK.
But clearly he continued the criminality,
alleged criminality in Romania and has been arrested as a result of that.
A few more details Tate repeatedly assaulted the women who worked for
him said sally choking her on at least five occasions,
while she witnessed him do the same to her co workers at least 10 times.
The attacks were in keeping with the dominant controlling pimp persona he
cultivated.
A poster on the walls of their workplace read quote, if there is ever a problem,
if there's ever a glitch, big Tate, won't wait straight slap a bit.
>> Yeah, so a lot of these guys, honestly exclusively of course in
the right wing as politics is in globally these days.
They do that make the excuse of well,
what I'm just running a sex business.
And a lot of people run sex business and
it's true that a lot of people running webcam business, etc.
It's not true that they all beat the women that are involved and
sexually assault them, that is deeply illegal.
And just because you're running a web cam business doesn't mean you can do that.
And so he wants the credit of being famous for
being a pimp I guess in his own mind and he thinks pimps assault women and
that that's cool, and then he goes out and tries to teach other people.
>> Yeah exactly.
>> That's the cool thing to do is violence against women.
>> Exactly, and look, earlier this week we had Vashon to talk about how
there was a lot of backlash toward him for
wanting to address like the young male crisis in the United States.
The suicidal ideation, the the deaths of despair young men are suffering in the US,
it's a real problem, it's clear in the statistics that we see.
And his point in bringing that up is, listen if the left pretends like this
problem doesn't exist if they don't take it seriously if they don't address it.
Well there's a vacuum, and that allows for people like Andrew Tate
to basically grab the attention of these young men as a mentor.
And this is the last person on the planet who should be a mentor.
>> Yeah, and where does he go in the political spectrum?
Well, the left wing doesn't want anybody who abuses women and
assaults them etc, but the right wing did welcome him with open arms.
>> I mean they're still providing excuse, I don't even know.
Look obviously it's easy to suspect that they're conservative or
right wingers, but it's amazing how many men are providing cover for this guy.
They think it's some sort of crazy conspiracy because
the famine nazis don't like what he says in his videos.
I mean listen, Romanian authorities aren't like on twitter checking what
feminists are saying and making their prosecutorial decisions on that, okay.
So ridiculous.
>> Yeah, the well known leftist in the Romanian police.
>> Insane, okay.
There's one more video we're gonna get to this one was the hardest for
me to watch and listen to, but here it is.
Here's here's more from Sally.
>> There was another time when he came into the bedroom,
me and the other girl, we would sleep in the same bed with Andrew, but
at this time the girl had a partner so she was not interested in Andrew at all.
And I had gone to the shower, I came back and I noticed he was I saw him
raping her and when he threatened to beat me up in the bathroom.
And he said I don't know if you call the police, I'm gonna beat out of you,
that's kind of when I knew I had to get out of there.
>> So if you're wondering what happened with the investigation after these
allegations came out.
Well Tate remained under investigation but
was released by the police after which he appeared as
a contestant on a reality show, big brother in 2016.
Producers were informed by police of the ongoing investigation, but
kept him on the show for five days before finally removing him.
During that time he was shown playing truth or dare in the hot tub and
kissing one of the female contestants.
It's just amazing how much leeway, how much benefit of the doubt
some of the most nefarious abusive honestly men get in the media.
>> Yeah, so again, don't conflate things,
he's got a couple of girlfriends that stay with him, that's called freedom, okay?
They have a boyfriend, they don't have a boyfriend, that's their business,
not our business, okay?
But when somebody has a boyfriend says, I do not wanna have sex with you anymore and
then you force yourself on them, that's called rape, okay.
That's called rape and under every law, Romanian law, US law, British law,
it doesn't matter.
And if you think that that's like some sort of that's being manly man,
you got problems brother, you got serious problems.
So look, there are people who commit sexual assaults,
there are pimps in the world, there are rapists in the world etc.
That's it's a big planet, that's not the issue.
The issue is him being popular and him spreading that idea out to people like,
you should treat women with no respect at all.
Including all the way up to, I mean he said before, it's not like we just
got caught, he said a lot of times women who were raped deserved it right.
Had had a role in getting raped, okay.
So it's not like he was hiding it, they didn't support him despite that,
they supported him because of that.
So that's the real problem that unfortunately it is in this case,
right wing.
But any movement, say finding a guy like this bottom of the barrel.
>> He's a dime a dozen honestly, I mean, I remember in the beginning of my career,
one of the public figures that got a lot of attention because he was just
like Andrew Tate.
In his rhetoric the way he would talk about women, he got permanently banned
from Canada because he said that rape should be legalized.
That guy rush, do you remember that guy?
>> Yeah.
>> And then now he's a born again christian and like a religious sell it and
it's no one knows who he is or what he's up to, I mean, just complete loser.
I don't know if he did anything physically that Tate did,
I'm not accusing him of that.
But he did get banned from Canada for
saying that rape should be legalized anyway.
Just to give you a few more details on what ended up happening with that
investigation, it took the police four years to finally refer that investigation
to the crown police.
And then they declined to prosecute, saying the case quote,
did not meet our legal test and there was no realistic prospect of a conviction.
By the way, despite Sally having been an eyewitness.
>> Yeah, if you've got an eyewitness to a rape,
you've got a realistic shot at prosecution, okay.
Basically what that's saying is whether it's the people making that decision or
their estimation of the jury.
They're saying, well, if you did, it were part of any sex business ever
in your life, you can get raped and no one's gonna convict you.
And that is a deeply disturbing message to send out.
>> And the lack of prosecution allowed for him to go to Romania and
allegedly traffic women.
And by the way, just to give you a direct quote from Andrew Tate,
he has said in the past, quote, my job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates,
sleep with her test if she's quality.
Get her to fall in love with me to where she'd do anything I say, and
then get her on a webcam so we can become rich together.
>> But of course it's not only really rich together, he gets rich and
she gets beaten, okay.
And so that's the game he played, and I thought we were all supposed
to be universally disgusted by human traffickers.
And I thought the right wing cared a lot about protecting people from traffickers.
But all of a sudden a lot of the right wing thinks well, I mean as long as he
should be using, the people were against Ie, women were okay with it.
>> Yeah, I mean, sexual misconduct and abuse only matters to the right wing when
they can weaponize it against their political opponents.
>> 100%.