>> DONALD TRUMP IS THE MOST
DEVIANT MAN EVER TO LIVE IN
THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> HE IS UNHINGED.
IT'S EMBARRASSING.
>> I CAN'T PRETEND AND SORT
OF TRY TO COVER THIS FAIRLY.
>> Martha: THERE IS NO
THE MEDIA.
FOX NEWS HOWIE KURTZ SAYS IT
HOUSES AND HE WRITES ABOUT
IT IN HIS NEW BOOK "MEDIA
MADNESS" WHICH IS TEARING UP
THE CHARTS HOWIE KURTZ IS
HERE HOST OF MEDIA BUZZ.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, HOWY.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, MARTHA.
>> Martha: COVER WHAT'S
GOING ON HERE AT 30,000-FOOT
LET'S BE RATIONAL ABOUT THE
SITUATION.
HOW DID IT GET SO BAD AND
USE A LINE HE MAKES OTHER
LOT OF EXCLUSIVE REPORTING
TRUMP TRAUMA.
JOURNALISTS WHO PRIVATELY
DISPARAGE THE PRESIDENT BOTH
IN PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS AND
OF NEGATIVE COVERAGE.
WE HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING
LIKE IT.
AND WE HAVE HAD SOME NEWS IN
THE NEWS BUSINESS.
SOME OF THAT IS DRIVEN NOT
JUST BY IDEOLOGY BUT
CULTURAL RESENTMENT DONALD
FANS THE FLAMES AT TIMES BY
DISREGARDING AIDE'S ADVICE
AND GOING AFTER JOURNALISTS
BY NAME ALL OF WHICH HAS
RESULTED IN A VERY
DYSFUNCTIONAL AND AT TIMES
HOSTILE RELATIONSHIP.
>> Martha: JUST LOOKING AT
SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE
THIS THAT MONTAGE, MIKA
BRZEZINSKI AND JOE
SCARBOROUGH ACCUSED OF
HAVING TOO COZY A RIP
RELATIONSHIP AND THEN IT
WENT THE OTHER WAY.
TOUGH ON CANDIDATE TRUMP.
THERE WAS A MAKEUP SESSION
FIRST AT MAR-A-LAGO AND THEN
AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
PRETTY STRONG TERMS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLED HIM
AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I INVITE
YOU OVER TO THE WHITE HOUSE
AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT
ME?
IT'S GOTTEN VERY, VERY
PERSONAL.
DONALD TRUMP FEELS BETRAYED.
JOE AND MIKA FEEL LIKE
THEY'RE CHRONICLING A
PRESIDENT WHO THEY HAVE
SERIOUS DOUBTS ABOUT.
SOMETIMES THEIR LANGUAGE MAY
GO A LITTLE FAR.
THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY
ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE
CONSERVATIVE AND LIBERAL
EVEN UNDERSCORES IN THE NEWS
BUSINESS PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT
AS WELL AS THE LEFT ARE
VERY, VERY HOSTILE TO THIS
PRESIDENT.
REPORTERS LEGITIMATE
STORIES.
A FAIRLY STATE OF THE UNION
BACK TO POUNDING RUSSIA,
RUSSIA, RUSSIA.
>> Martha: MOVING ON TO
ANOTHER STORY THAT WE ARE
WATCHING CLOSELY HERE,
ESPECIALLY FOOTBALL FANS.
FOX IS GOING TO HAVE
THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL NOW.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE
COMPANY?
>> THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT
IS A CUE FOR FOX.
FOX IS PAYING MORE THAN
$3 BILLION FOR THOSE RIGHTS.
THAT SAYS TO ME THAT EVEN
THOUGH THE RATINGS HAVE BEEN
DOWN THIS YEAR.
IT'S BEEN A VERY
CONTROVERSIAL SEASON FOR THE
IT'S STILL AN INCREDIBLY
LUCRATIVE FRANCHISE FOR THE
NETWORKS.
IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR BOTH
THE LEAGUE AND ALL THE
NETWORKS THAT PAY ALL THIS
MONEY FOR THE NFL IF SOMEHOW
WE COULD MOVE BEYOND THE
PROTEST AND GET THE PROTEST
UNDER CONTROL AND
CONCENTRATE ON FIELD
BEHAVIOR.
>> Martha: SPEAKING OF ON
FIELD BEHAVIOR THE SUPER
BOWL IS COMING UP THIS
WEEKEND AND INTERVIEW AT
HALFTIME WITH THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
THIS TIME AROUND.
>> I AM NOT SHOCKED THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS CHOOSING
NOT TO SIT DOWN WITH NBC
CARRYING THE SUPER BOWL THIS
YEAR.
IN FACT, HAD OFF-THE-RECORD
LUNCHEON BEFORE THE SPEECH.
HE GOT INTO IT WITH NBC'S
LESTER HOLT TOOK A SWIPE AT
NBC'S CHUCK TODD WHO HE
SOMETIMES TALKS TO OFF THE
>> I WASN'T THERE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT
HAPPENED.
USUALLY THOUGH SUPER BOWL
WITH HUGE AUDIENCE IS A
GREAT PLATFORM FOR ANY
PRESIDENT.
THIS PRESIDENT TALKS TO THE
PRESS A LOT DESPITE THE
CONTENTIOUS RELATIONSHIP.
AND GIVEN HIS TWITTER
MEGAPHONE DOESN'T ACTUALLY
>> Martha: LET'S LOOK AT AN
INTERCHANGE WITH LESTER HOLT
THAT MAY HAVE PROVOKED THE
DECISION NOT TO DO.
REGISTRATION CARDS.
YOUR NEGATIVES ARE
STAGGERING.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS
SELF-INPLAINTIFF'S
INFLICTED BY SOME OF THE
RHETORIC FROM THE PRIMARY
CAMPAIGN?
>> I THINK THE PRESIDENT
CAME AWAY NOT PLEASED BY
THAT FAIR QUESTIONS.
ALSO YOU KNOW HE HAS A THING
ABOUT NBC BECAUSE HE WORKED
FOR NBC APPRENTICE.
I MADE THAT NETWORK SO MUCH
MONEY THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE
NBC NEWS DIVISION SHOULD GO
EASY ON HIM.
BECAUSE NBC HAS THE SUPER
BOWL THIS YEAR, I THINK
DONALD TRUMP HAS DECIDED TO
GET THE DIET COKE AND THE
POPCORN AND NOT DO THE
INTERVIEW.
>> Martha: DO YOU SEE ANY OF
WOULD LOVE TO GIVE
OPTIMISTIC ANSWER.
I THOUGHT IN THE BEGINNING
OF THE ADMINISTRATION THERE
MIGHT BE A THOU.