WELCOME BACK I THOUGHT SEAN
PAUL WAS HERE BUT JULIANN IS
HERE.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.
WE ARE GOING BEYOND THE
VEIL, PAST THE COSMOS MAB TO
THE HEAVENS.
WHAT'S ONE THING WE WILL
EXPERIENCE AS SURE AS GRAVITY?
WE ARE GOING TO DIE.
EXACTLY.
IT CAN BE A SCARY PROSPECT
BECAUSE IT'S A SOLO JOURNEY AND
THE UNKNOWN BUT THERE IS
EVIDENCE TO TELL US WHAT WE
MIGHT EXPECT.
WE WILL TALK TO HOSPICE NURSES
AND EYEWITNESSES WHO HAVE
EXPERIENCED WHAT CAN BE
DESCRIBED AS SACRED EVENTS.
YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME CRY.
WE ARE GOING TO START WITH
NDE, NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE SAY THEY SEE A
LIGHT.
LET ME GET BACK TO THAT.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE PEOPLE, SHE
ASKED THEM WHAT IT WAS.
AND A WONDERFUL BOOK
COMPREHENSIVE, I READ THIS,
IT'S WRITTEN BY JUDY BACHRACH A
LIFELONG JOURNALIST HAS WORKED
FOR THE "WASHINGTON POST",
VANITY FAIR, A PROFESSOR OF
JOURNALISM AND SHE IS OBJECTIVE
OBVIOUSLY AS SHE WAS APPROACHED
BY NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC TO
RESEARCH AND WRITE ABOUT THIS
TOPIC IN HER BOOK AND SHE DOES
THIS AND SHE'S VERY CYNICAL TO
BEGIN WITH AND SHE SHOCKS
HERSELF AND HER FINDINGS.
SHE INTERVIEWS AND TALKS TO A
PANEL OF 50+ PEOPLE WHO HAVE
EXPERIENCED THIS AS WELL AS A
WIDE OF MEDICAL EXPERTS,
CARDIOLOGIST, NEUROLOGIST.
YOU NAME IT.
AND LESS JUST HEAR FROM HER
ABOUT WHAT SHE SAYS ABOUT ALL
OF THESE PEOPLE SHE TALKED WITH
INCLUDING NEUROPSYCHOLOGISTS
AND NURSES.
THEY ALL, INCLUDING MY GP
HAD PATIENTS WHO WERE DECLARED
DEAD.
ALL OF THEM AND CAME BACK TO
LIFE THANKS TO CPR AND THEY
SAID THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHILE
I WAS DEAD AND BY THE WAY
DOCTOR, I HEARD YOU SAY DON'T
BRING HER BACK TO LIFE OR DON'T
TRY BECAUSE SHE IS DEAD.
THERE IS NO USE.
AND THEY HEARD A CONVERSATION
AND IN THE ER WHILE THEY WERE
ON A GURNEY.
WHILE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO
BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE AND
ACCORDING TO THE SCIENCE WE
HAVE, THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO
THE SCIENCE FOR TODAY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE COME BACK AND
SAY IT WAS A JOURNEY AND I AM
BACK AND IN MANY CASES THEY
DON'T WANT TO COME BACK.
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT TO
ANALYZE AND DISCUSS WHAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT DEATH
EXPERIENCES.
THIS IS NOT NEAR DEATH.
SOMEBODY WHO FAINTED OR IS SICK
AND CLOSE TO DEATH.
THESE PEOPLE WERE DECLARED DEAD
AND THEY HAD EITHER A REALLY
GOOD MEMORY FOR WHAT WENT ON
WHILE THEY WERE BEING OPERATED
ON THEY HAD ACTUAL TRAVEL WHERE
THEY GO TO ANOTHER, I CAN'T SAY
COUNTRY ABOUT ANOTHER PLACE
AFTER DEATH SO THAT'S WHY I
CALL IT TRAVEL.
A VERY REMARKABLE EXPERIENCE
PAM REYNOLDS LOWERY IN 1991 SHE
HAD AN ANEURYSM AT THE STEM OF
HER BRAIN WHICH REQUIRED
SURGERY.
THEY HAD TO PLACE HER BODY IN A
STATE OF PHYSIOLOGICAL DEATH.
THEY LOWERED HER TEMPERATURE.
THEY DRAINED HER ABOUT BLOOD
AWAY FROM HER HEAD SHE HAD NO
BRAIN ACTIVITY OR HEARTBEAT FOR
ONE HOUR DURING THE SURGERY AND
THEY STARTED EVERYTHING BACK UP
AND WHEN SHE CAME TO SHE
DESCRIBES AS SHE LEFT THE BODY
SHE SAW THE SURGERY.
SHE HEARD THE CONVERSATIONS.
SHE COULD DESCRIBE THE
INSTRUMENTS.
ONE WAS LIKE A ELECTRIC
TOOTHBRUSH A SAW.
SHE KNEW THAT THE BLADES CAME
IN A CASE AND SHE HEARD MUSIC
THEY WERE PLAYING HOTEL
CALIFORNIA WHICH SHE THOUGHT
WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.
SHE LEFT THE ROOM SHE WENT TO
THE LIGHT SHE SEES HER
GRANDMOTHER AND AN UNCLE.
SHE ASKED ABOUT THE LIGHT.
NOT EVERYONE SEES THE LIGHT BUT
MANY SEA CREATURES WHO ARE
HUMANLIKE.
ONE SPOKE ABOUT JESUS OR A
SPIRITUAL BEING.
THEY SEE RELATIVES.
NOT THE BORING ONES, THE
INTERESTING ONES.
MANY OF THEM DON'T WANT TO COME
BACK.
THERE'S ANOTHER DOCTOR WHO HAS
SPENT 4 DECADES RESEARCHING
THIS OVER A THOUSAND PATIENTS.
THEY DESCRIBE TIME AS BEING
DIFFERENT.IT STOPS.
AN ALL-KNOWING SENSE OF PEACE
AND HARMONY AND ABILITY TO SEE
THE FUTURE AS WELL AS A PSYCHIC
CONNECTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
THEY ARE NO LONGER AFRAID OF
DEATH.
THEY HAVE INSIGHT ABOUT WHAT'S
IMPORTANT.
SOME OF THEM HAVE GIFTS, MUSIC,
ART PSYCHIC GIFTS.
ONE THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THE DNA
MIGHT CHANGE WHEN THEY COME
BACK.
THE BOOK IS CALLED GLIMPSING
HEAVEN AND THESE PEOPLE HAD
DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES BUT THEY
CAME BACK CHANGED IN SOME WAY
AND KNOWING THERE IS SOMETHING
DIFFERENT.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE
LIGHT IS?
WE HAVE ANOTHER VIDEO.
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[INDISCERNIBLE] DIFFERENT
FIGURES, DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND I
HEARD MY GRANDMOTHER CALLING
ME.
SHE HAD A DISTINCT VOICE AND I
IMMEDIATELY WENT TO HER AND IT
FELT GREAT.
AND I ASKED IF GOD WAS THE
LIGHT.
AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
GOD IS NOT THE LIGHT.
THE LIGHT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
GOD
THAT WAS BBC WHO DID A
DOCUMENTARY ON HER.
I COULD TALK TO ABOUT THIS
FOR HOURS.
AND I HAVE HAD THE SAME FEELING
OF INTRIGUE FOR THIS I HAVE
READ BOOKS ON THE AFTERLIFE AND
PEOPLE WHO HAVE CROSSED OVER
AND HAVE BEEN PRONOUNCED DEAD
AND HAVE COME BACK AND IT'S
AMAZING.
THERE IS SOMETHING OUT
THERE.
MY GREAT AUNT MARY PASSED
AWAY AND SHE WAS SISTERS WITH
MY GRANDMOTHER PASSED ALONG
TIME AGO AND AS SHE WAS LEAVING
SHE SAID TO MY FAMILY, SHE SAW
MY GRANDMA SHE SAW HER MOM AND
DAD.
SHE SAW THEM.SHE SAID I HAVE
TO GO.
I SEE THEM.
THIS IS NORMA, THERE'S MAMA AND
DADDY AND SHE SAW THEM AS SHE
LEFT THIS WORLD.
IT'S AMAZING I BELIEVE THERE IS
A HEAVEN BUT SHE SAW THEM AS
CLEAR AS DAY.
THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I LOVE THAT.
AND PEOPLE A LOT OF TIMES WE
HAVE HEARD IT.
I SAW MY DAD EARLIER.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS
MORE.
WE WILL TALK TO A HOSPICE
NURSE NEXT TIME.
I JUST HAD A FAITH AFFIRMING
SEGMENT.
WE WILL BE BACK TO WRAP THINGS
UP AFTER