yesterday we did a story about the hall the prison in norway and you know of
course this is an unscripted shell wrexham we had a spontaneous discussion
about the recidivism rate in norway verses the united states dozens of the
spontaneous discussion we have the numbers with us at that point in time
and i think it's important to go back to the topic then give you guys some of the
numbers now a lot of people outward unhappy with the way we cover that story
and i agree with that
uh... for instance i said that the maximum sentence that you receive in
norway is twenty one years
which is the truth however after about twenty one years this sir
the person is then review
and if that person is deemed uh... unfit to be released into society here she i
can have that sentence repeated in fact he can be repeated up to five times
right
so if they do that with uh... the killer in norway well
not likely to get out okay so we'll see though what about you know it's old but
to be fair so open to question they might really son after twenty-one years
his sentences actually twenty one years
so don't you know i still don't agree with it
but uh... there is ample who
almond was very important to the store
right so now i want to give you that some numbers and these numbers are at
are in regard to norway versus the united states now understand that yes we
we should do this to me see
represent complex in norway
this seems like a retreat that seems like one of our barrow tells me you
expect a and i said i was on favor of that
uh... i said that the recidivism recidivism rate once we find out what it
is might influence my decision
let's find out if it does ok selam
let's start with other graphic
soho out when it comes to homicides per one thousand one hundred thousand people
norway has point six intentional homicides per one hundred thousand
people
now compare that to the u_s_ with five intentional homicides
one hundred thousand people
all right so
that is almost ten times as high obviously
uh...
they have a lot less murders okay now
uh... remember that's
you know not as a people who are already in prison and so you might say hello to
population for all the reasons might be a lot less prone to crime which is a
very very fair point so how to other people
who went out of prison at what happened
uh... let's talk about the incarceration rate at seventy one out of every one
hundred thousand people are incarcerated in norway
compare that to the number in the united states uh...
seven hundred forty three out of every one hundred thousand people
and that's it it does not allow or dixie
gone we incarcerate
soul
much more people here in the united states citizens of a business
well look a lot of our prisons have become privatize so the more prisons
they have the more money they make
and spent by the way they also contribute to our politicians who then
passed laws to create more prisoners so it's a terrible cycle that we have in
the u_s_
and so so far
the crime situation and the present situation norway seems
startlingly bad
but finally we have the recidivism ish norway's recidivism rate is twenty
percent compare that to the united states for the fifty to sixty percent
recidivism rate at the same goes for the u_k_ as a site now
spinor where u_s_
uh... ally u_s_
and if there was any of you have the same recidivism rate ok and uh... so
uh... to give you an some a slightly more specific numbers
sixty seven percent america's prisoners are re-arrested
and fifty two percent are we incarcerate ingenta
uh... so that recidivism rate in the u_s_ is
horrible
okay
twenty percent and always
pretty damn good having grown up in the u_s_ and study this in the past
meaning to start to some courses in college
i have read all the different articles that come out on it
i was stunned by the twenty percent number that is incredibly low
now does that make us rethink the luxuries prisons that they have
well uh... it cuts the republican directions they already have very low
crime
mate you know they already incarcerate a lot less people
but that doesn't really go towards what happens after they've been incarcerated
so the guys already been arrested and you know you could make a case
this is the risk to cure people but does it is most really
i've been guilty right it's not like the u_s_ religious redman everybody always
brokaw you're going to jail you did this
the there will always remember the date jail walking you're going to jail right
so
they're very selective about who they put in prison
an even among those people only twenty percent comeback
demand that
got you know that prison and how what jerry said is i just i feel like that's
missing
a sense of justice but there is also very damn good
i gotta say you can argue with those faxing the kinnari with those results
are not the rule in favor of the present angry at because you have to take the
emotional aspect that that in the united states and i think that anywhere in the
world
we have that emotional aspect where we wanna see criminals
honest
you know we wanna see them suffer for their crimes and into prison systems
shouldn't be like that even though part of us want to be like that it should be
about rehabilitating these people making them prepared to
you know innovate back into society as soon as they served their sentence you
you have a more humane answer in a bit i'm not necessarily canvas
well i do want punishment and i do want ideas for justice right
so somebody let's say brave someone i love i don't want them sitting there
with a flat screen tv into and i spent in they're on their drawing path it so i
want them to punish baby so little time to rely on our front but i hand
you know there are other factors involved here and if it means that less
people
commit crime afterwards has less people or raped or killed or monde et cetera
well then on them to put my business i a little bit for the good of society
uh... it is a twenty percent recidivism rate this unbelievably good
i know it please let me just say there are other factors in the prison might
only be one of the factors
but it's such a stark difference that you have to think
the prison seem to have
enlarge at you know the missouri factor involved