really interesting
subjects that is coming up
as a consequence of mit romney running for and john huntsman as well
running for the republican nomination for president as states is more minutes
the whole issue of mormon ism and is this uh...
uh...
rebirth is perhaps the wrong word that
there actually is a theory that that
this continent that europeans latinos contact gone are now
going through the fourth grade
um... awakening a reformation that there was one in the uh... late sixteen
hundreds
that there was they were there was another one in the itna late seventeen
hundreds there was another one in the in the mid to late nineteen hundred
eighteen hundreds
uh... and that this is the fourth one in
that's a whole nother theory that will get into some time
uh... but and and they were driven by by basically fundamentalist christianity
but uh... the the great awakening of the late nineteenth century
included things like the creations of the best church by on white
and the creation of them
mormon religion by justice method and the brigham young and it's uh...
bloodier disciple or whatever he was like
i do not represent myself at all as authority and more nism
but it seems to be played a significant role there holding primary because in
states like idaho where there are a lot of mormons mit romney wins easily or
arizona where there's a lot of mormons
in states where there are very few mormons
mitt romney has a serious problem alex mcfarlane is on the line with us he is a
christian speaker author of the book
uh... ten questions to determine answers for skeptics
alex mcfarland dot com the website doctor election for a walk the program
understood to be dot com thanks for having me
thank you for joining us uh...
the
the in the impact is
this piece that brian cashman wrote uh... which i think you're connected
with
the conspicuous absence of the two mormon presidential candidates get
running john huntsman from saturday's thanksgiving family forum was not lost
on the religious right now this goes back to november fifth
why it why has
why are why are the it was a why were they not their within and by that
did they not consider themselves what's gonna
well i i think what's going on is come justice
you know nine eleven brought is alarmed to the front page for a lot of people
into the first time a lot of americans began to become familiar with about
world view
having now i'm a lot of americans are becoming familiar with more minnesota
and
union um...
in a way you know i mean it while mormons in many ways are exemplary
citizens in uh... you know that picks and morality and family are very strong
a lot of things uh... related um... not only to christian life in practice but
in american life in american history in general are kind of uh...
you know um... taboo for some mormons and i think
while loved for example
well you know who are participating in parenthood like like christmas in easter
and celebrating uh... port classical orthodoxies believed that jesus christ
is
beauty the son of god
and more muscle
practice christmas and easter alamo not same way that classical
you know orthodox he would get christian orthodoxy would because christianity
believes that jesus christ really is gone and cornet at these these were as
you know most of most americans
the group called sells christians
and oracle who call themselves secular and even even some people bother
relations celebrate christmas in the easter in
in the kind of secular way that harken back to their original pagan roots which
was you know he stir was a fertility uh... uh... right you dated they would
take
the blood of rabbits and and and eggs in
entity eggs they take the border allison's for home on the fields in the
spring so that the crops would grow well you know let's let's all go for
fertility here
and uh... you know christmas was the winter solstice is the shortest is the
year
and so for for thousands of years that that they had you know guy would climb
up on the top of the biggest mountain and find the biggest trien set that
thing on fire on the night of those shortest day of the year and say i'm
gonna bring the sun back and then there's the day's got longer longer
after that everybody would say he did it again and he'd be that guy for another
year
and coming up so people you know it's a mormon sort of christmas trees and don't
don't do easter bunnies uh... many of them do not either when i when i lived
in colorado three years and we dialogue with many many mormons it would come to
work
a friend or often it let me point out this uh... their archaeological
characteristics that need to be understood in their social
characteristics and while um... they might observed at the same you know
holidays and a tough work theologically mormon is a man christianity are
definitely
uh... it uh... it polar opposites
and any other organism claims to be christianity and the
the uh...
you know there are a progressive christian churches they claim to be
christian the jury falwell would have issued you may
there are fundamentalists churches the claim to be christians that
that i think some people can in the middle would say
no that's not me you know i'm not about slain people in the spirit
uh... war whatever it may be you know and at the the at a baptist to no i'm
not about not dancing
uh... you agree there's there's i think there's this this whole huge spectrum of
christianity
uh... what makes you or anybody else
the the anointed one to say these are the people are christians
or agro one book called stand court route you must know furniture full paper
not talk about this six months basic christian beliefs paper two thousand
years
all christendom have held so right about christianity in three voices catholicism
eastern orthodox protestant group um all have affirmed the inspiration of
scripture and the virgin birth of christ the deity of christ here the temperament
com across he paid first and heroes he's gonna return sit inspiration virgin
birth dat atonement resurrection yeah it's a it's a from a lawyer who the
listening ear its limits on word secretariat that what is on and be a
particularly smaller with that so
waja ledu mormons
deviate from all that good services that came along and the eighteen hundreds and
i'm glad you mentioned technically waking because arm
that was a very emotive conflicts cognitive it was very much experiential
when not so much biblical
and out of the aftermath of the second-grade awakening
uh... we did get a lot of the arm
um... religious group some i'm not gonna say that they're all called but and
you've got the job is witnesses the latter day shane stant seventh-day
adventist
you've got a lot of the group's b_t_u_'s christian terminology but with different
definition but there was there was there was widespread history in the eighteen
seventies in eighteen eighty seven that states that the world was going to add
at yahoo helen white says let her back her married and at the top of martin and
waited for the world and one of the man did you know she reinvented
and and what they came to some of the best religion and i'm sure i'm mango in
their history but it's sudan and you know there were on
and participate in the political party and of the um
do mormons going westward endures work uh... big school
and over the sport of books go with the word you can there just bronx marching
into it and lending the mormon history the mila rights so many of those other
uh... kind of armed doomsday of group catholics and hundreds let's see i can
live i haven't spent like what you know i don't know any mormons frankly i you
know i can't
profess to have done any
researcher uh... ever had the series had a conversation a mormon
i had in a vegetarian for a lot a year's and having run any a program for
or e these kids in new hampshire on back in the wake of that was that was
vegetarian
um... the set of their data showed up
and has the register give and i'd have to tell them pretty well pick his early
supporter program they brought us full
within the and of course they want to avenge was which we did not allow
maria and because we were not an evangelical program and we certainly
wasn't there dennis program but i've found them to the wonderful people and
and that you know in terms of
christian stand this is a behavior and and and common decency and i should seek
the rich
you've got your six things for christianity
my thing for christianity is matthew twenty-five i think that's the essence
of christianity and that was the only place in the entire bible word where
anybody can reduce it how do i get haven't he said you know feed a hungry
heal the sick he water thirsty visit those in prison just like and into
disciples freaked out 'cause i've never seen him hungry many said as you do the
least among these uh... your brother and you've done to me i mean that bat in my
mind is
more miss practice that delta older to date and say
as far as um... the being you know benevolent agents in in the culture and
uh... socially i mean there so much common ground and i think bom pom this
common ground we all need to rally in pulled together
how much make it needs to be pointed out that ecologically there are differences
but but there are different and and and and work for outside the
um... that shut out of four oh one dot com people can read more about alice
thanks for being with us today from my perspective victor
harmful that this is a conversation but is only beginning
meron is the presidential