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RETO MEIER: We're joined now by Adam Seligman, Vice President
of Developer Relations.
Now I love the theme of last night's keynote,
Get to the Fun Part.
Can you talk a little bit about how
you chose that theme, and why you
feel it resonates with our developers,
and really all technical practitioners?
ADAM SELIGMAN: Yeah, you bet.
Thanks for having me.
It's exciting to be here.
Keynote was super fun.
And the whole idea was to really celebrate
what developers and operators actually do every day.
You know, hopefully they're spending hours
a day productively building apps, running apps, deploying
apps, monitoring apps, and not dealing
with all the other stuff that you normally
have to do when you build applications, especially
in the enterprise.
Getting out of Waterfall and getting to Agile,
not just throwing over an app over the wall for someone else
to operate, but taking ownership in a DevOps culture
and operating, and really removing all the barriers.
Everything from not having to manage and shard databases, not
have to manually manage your VMs or even pick VM sizes.
And really just get to the heart of building applications.
And then let the Cloud take care of it from there.
That was the spirit we wanted to capture in the keynote.
STEPHANIE WONG: So configuring networks,
rewriting apps due to Cloud provider changes
and waiting around for build, test and deploy,
are clearly not the fun parts.
Didn't Google once face these sort of issues?
And how were we able to remedy that at such scale?
ADAM SELIGMAN: Google has built a lot of great software
to run these services that billions of people
use every day.
So a lot of, a couple of decades of experience
went into how do we help Google developers become incredibly
productive so they can spend an hour, six hours on average
of writing software every day, and absolutely minimize
everything else in the chain of getting to deployment
and getting that service out to production, where
a small number of users can test it as a canary deployment,
and start giving you feedback.
So we're trying to build that into our Cloud.
We've seen the rise of DevOps practices out in the industry.
But now we're building into our products,
with products like Cloud Code, like Managed Kubernetes
and CSP, Cloud Run, our new serverless offering.
Just really reducing the barriers
that anyone, like a Google engineer,
can build code and get it in production
as easily as possible.
RETO MEIER: Fantastic.
Now if you had to pick just one, just one best practice
from yesterday's keynote that you want developers to walk
away with, what would it be?
ADAM SELIGMAN: I'm going to cheat a little,
and instead of like I think Google said,
I really like what Twinkle Desai,
who is a VP at Kohl's, who started
her career as a developer and a unique sysadmin.
And she built a lot of automation at Kohl's.
Now she runs, a couple years later,
she rents a 200-person team.
They have a 100 microservices, 5,000 containers,
it's all automated.
It's running on managed GKE On Prem.
She said they've been through two big holiday shopping
windows, which in retail, is a really big deal.
So I'm thrilled that Google Cloud
can support retail customers.
But by making her people super productive,
it's been really great for Kohl's and really great
for her career.
STEPHANIE WONG: And that's an inspirational customer story.
We also saw incredible downloads during the keynote yesterday.
Can you tell us about some of them
and which one was your favorite?
ADAM SELIGMAN: There was a couple that were a lot of fun.
I really liked what Wicks is doing with Google Cloud.
They've gone from being like a drag and drop web environment,
but now it's totally programmable
and extensible Google Cloud.
That's really exciting.
The opening demo that Mandy Waite led us through.
Her dev team is taking us through was very, very cool.
Because it was a mix of developers
doing VM-based development, with Jenkins for deployment
of new VM images, a container-based app
in the middle, and then extending with new services
with functions, serverless functions,
which is pretty cool.
So to see all those teams kind of working together and using
tools like Cloud Code, our new IDE integration for VS Code
IntelliJ, just awesome.
People can work the way they want to work.
It all works together.
All runs on Google Cloud seamlessly.
One pane of glass with Stackdriver
to observe and manage it.
And I think that's great.
Let developers do what they want and get to the fun parts.
STEPHANIE WONG: That's fantastic.
Thank you so much again for joining us today and giving us
some of that great information.
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