>> JASON: THE WOKE OBJECT TO
THESE TERMS OF RESPECT.
THEY WANT THE FEW AND THE PROUD
TO STOP SAYING SIR OR MA’AM
OUTLIED.
A NEW REPORT SUGGESTS THE MARINE
CORPS IS THINKING ABOUT DROPPING
GENDER LANGUAGE.
THEY SHOULD GET PUNISHED WITH
PUSHUPS FOR THAT EXCEPT WOMEN
SUCK AT PUSHUPS.
>> SEXISTS WOULD SAY --
>> BE BANNED FROM USES PHRASES
LIKE SIR OR MA’AM WHEN
ADDRESSING SUPERIORS.
GENDER NEUTRAL IDENTIFIERS LIKE
A PERSON’S RANK WOULD BECOME THE
PREFERRED WAY TO ADDRESS SENIOR
MEMBERS.
THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION COMES
FROM A $2 MILLION STUDY
COMMISSIONED BY THE CORPS WHICH
CONCLUDED THAT TRADITIONAL WAYS
MARINES ADDRESS EACH OTHER COULD
BE SEEN AS OFFENSIVE.
AND TO THINK THE PENTAGON COULD
HAVE USED THAT $2 MILLION FOR
TRADITIONAL SPECIFICATIONS LIKE
$400 HAMMERS AND $600 TOILET
SEATS.
LUCKILY SOME TOP BRASS WITHIN
THE BRANCH ARE PUSHING BACK,
REFUSING TO CAVE TO THE WOKE
PRESSURE.
OF COURSE, MOST ACTIVE DUTY
SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS
KNOW THIS IS GARBAGE.
LIKE HOW EVEN FOX EMPLOYEES KNOW
GREG’S BODYGUARDS ARE JUST A TAX
WRITE-OFF.
AS FOR WHETHER THE CHANGE
ACTUALLY GETS IMPLEMENTED
REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
BUT THOSE INSIDE THE CORPS SAY
JUST LIKE DEVITO’S UNDERWEAR, IT
WON’T BE CHANGED OVERNIGHT.
>> JOE, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?
YOU’RE A WRITER ON THE SHOW, HOW
DO THESE LINES GET THROUGH?
>> LOOK, TAKE IT UP WITH JOE
MACKEY, OKAY?
>> WELL, DAGAN, DO YOU THINK
MAKING OUR MILITARY NICER IN
THIS P.C. WAY IS A GOOD IDEA?
>> I DON’T THINK THE SIR OR
MA’AM CONFUSION IS A NEW THING.
IS A 21st CENTURY WOKE ISSUE.
AND I’M SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE.
AS YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE, I HAVE
A LITTLE TOO MUCH TESTOSTERONE.
>> JASON: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING
ABOUT?
>> I’M FLAT CHESTED.
I HAVE THIS WEIRD LIKE SIX PACK
NECK THAT I LOOK LIKE I HAVE AN
ADAM’S APPLE.
FOR MORE THAN A DECADE I HAD
THIS REALLY SHORT HAIR CUT.
I THOUGHT I LOOKED LIKE A WRITER
BUT I LOOKED LIKE VINCE VAUGHAN.
AND I WASN’T IN THE MARINES
OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT’S REALLY
AWKWARD, YOU KNOW, YOU’RE
STANDING IN A RESTAURANT AND
SOMEBODY COMES UP BEHIND YOU AND
TAPS YOU ON THE SHOULDER AND
SAYS, EXCUSE ME, SIR, YOU’RE
STANDING ON MY FOOT AND YOU TURN
AROUND AND IT’S YOUR DATE.
SO TO JUST GET RID OF -- JUST
ALLEVIATE A LOT OF PRESSURE AND
HURT --
>> JASON: WOW, THIS IS AMAZING.
JIM, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THESE
KIND OF TALK SHOW DISCUSSIONS
BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ALL SORTS OF
PERSPECTIVES.
I THOUGHT EVERYONE WOULD ATTACK
THIS AND IT MAY NOT BE AN
INTERESTING SEGMENT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, ARE THE
MILITARY ON TO SOMETHING WITH
THIS STUDY?
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE MARINE IS
GETTING OFFENDED BY WORDS.
MAYBE THEY SHOULDN’T BE ON THE
FRONT END FIGHTING.
I THOUGHT THE ONLY WAY TO OFFEND
A MARINE IS TO ASK HIM IF HE’S
IN THE NAVY.
BUT COULD YOU IMAGINE LIKE AN
ALPHA MALE DRILL SERGEANT
SCREAMING IN A RECRUIT’S FACE,
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?
YES, HE, SHE, THEY, THEM, LGBT,
WHATEVER THAT IS.
>> JASON: IT’S SO TRUE.
I SAID IT IN THE READ, THE RANK
AND FILE OR PROBABLY MOST OF THE
LEADERSHIP WANTS THIS.
THE PROBLEM IS THEY HIRE THESE
CONSULTING FIRMS, NONE OF WHOM
ARE MILITARY TYPES AND THEY MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD
PROBABLY WORK AT THEIR DUMB
COMPANY, RIGHT?
>> THE STUDY IS THE LENGTH OF --
AFTER THREE YEARS, $2 MILLION
AND ALL THAT EFFORT THEY HAD TO
COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS
PROVOCATIVE AND NEW AND
INTERESTING, AND THEY LANDED ON
THIS.
I DON’T LIKE BEING CALLED MA’AM
BUT THE ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY
SUGGESTED IS YOU JUST USE
SOMEONE’S LAST NAME WHICH IS
VERY CHAOTIC.
I CAN’T REMEMBER PEOPLE’S NAMES.
IT JUST DOESN’T HAVE THE SAME
RING TO IT AND I THINK IT’S A
RECIPE FOR CONFUSION.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION AS
WELL. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE
ALL OF THE SONGS TO NONGENDER
THEM?
LIKE THE BATTLE HYMN OF THE
REPUBLIC?
I DON’T KNOW WHERE THIS ENDS.
YEAH.
>> OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN’T END BUT
THAT’S INTERESTING.
YOU DON’T LIKE BEING CALLED
MA’AM.
IS THAT SOMETHING?
WHY?
IS IT OLD FASHION OR --
>> IT SOUNDS SO STODGY, BUT
AGAIN, I DON’T HAVE AN
ALTERNATIVE.
>> SOUTHERN PEOPLE ARE RAISED TO
SAY YES, SIR, YES, MA’AM, NO,
MA’AM, NO, SIR, AND IT MAKES
PEOPLE FEEL OLD WHICH I
UNDERSTAND NOW.
>> HEY, YOU --
>> THAT’S TRUE, JOE, A LOT OF
THESE RECRUITS, MILITARY TYPES,
YOUNG, SOUTHERN MEN, THEY LOVE
THE TRADITION, THEY WANT TO JOIN
THE CORPS BECAUSE OF THESE
TRADITIONS, RIGHT?
>> YES.
SIR AND MA’AM ARE TERMS OF
RESPECT, AND LOOK AT THE OTHER
THINGS MARINES CALL EACH OTHER.
THEY CALL EACH OTHER GRUNTS AND
JAR HEADS.
I CAN’T IMAGINE A MARINE SAYING
IT REALLY HURT ME WHEN YOU
REFERRED TO ME AS A JARHEAD.
>> I THINK WE’RE JUST GETTING
CLOSE.
CAN WE JUST SAY, LET’S JUST CALL
EACH OTHER COMRADE.
ISN’T THIS WHAT IT’S ALL HEADING
TOWARD?
CAN WE CALL EACH OTHER COMRADE?
WE CAN GET RID OF TITLES, GET
RID OF PRONOUNCE AND SAY GREAT
POINT, COMRADE, AND WE’RE SAY
THAT WHILE WE’RE STANDING ON THE
BREAD LINES AND EVERYBODY WILL
BE MUCH HAPPIER.
>> JASON: I UNDERSTAND YOUR
PERSPECTIVE, THESE TROOPS, THEY
WANT TO EXPERIENCE THESE
TRADITIONS, RIGHT?
THEY ARE MORE TRADITIONAL TYPE
OF PEOPLE, AND I THINK THAT, THE
WOMEN WHO GO INTO THE MILITARY,
THEY ARE TOUGH.
THEY ARE NOT THE TYPE THAT ARE
GOING TO GET OFFENDED BY THESE
THINGS, ARE THEY?
>> IF I WAS A DRILL SERGEANT I
WOULD LOVE FOR THE GRUNTS TO
SCREW UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO
I WOULD HAVE A REASON TO YELL AT
THEM.
LET THEM MISS GENDER ME SO I
HAVE A REASON --
>> JASON: TRY COMPLAINING,
RIGHT?
I THINK THE LOSS IN ALL OF THIS,
THE MILITARY HAS BEEN, RACIALLY