presumes to know that it was snowden is stuck in a uh... moscowane airport
we've got our passport
and he is
sent out letters twenty one countries seeking asylum
many of those of already been rejected
apparently what happened yesterday
was that ever morale is the president bolivia was leaving russia from a
conference
and as he was flying accross
eastern europe
western european countries who needed to offer him uh... or allow him
travel through their airspace
presumably to get back to bolivia
um...
and i'm talking about france
portugal
italy and austria
denied him
the ability to cross through their air space
and apparently austria said that we all live let you uh...
come through our airspace if you'll and here i guess it was in vienna
and
presumably it was because
there was a report
it's not clear exactly who gave them this report
one can guess
who made these requests
that edward snowden was on uh... the airplane
seeking to get voted to bolivia
presumably for political asylum
and they force this playing down
i don't think they did it with jess but they basically said yeah you u_k_ across
our espace
and
who knows what would happen if the attempted to
uh...
not unexpectedly
verbal libyans were in raged
there are meetings now with uh... south american latin american leaders
high gas to formulate a plan is to where to go for it but it was really is
i don't know
of the anytime
where something like this is happened
where presumably you have allies
move recognized the sovereignty of bolivia
um... recognize the concept of
things like diplomatic community recognize the concept of a asylum
uh... i i i mean i i don't know
that we would do this
to our worst enemies
frankly
and
he's
it is stunning greenwalt
uh... in his piece today
notes
that
at least two of these countries spain and portugal
had no problem
with allowing
extraordinary rendition
uh... to take place in their country or at least to use their country as a uh...
hop skip and a jump
as
the uh... v c_i_a_ or
commander was who was extraordinarily rendering
people who often turned out to be completely innocent
uh... render them to you a third country
as for torture
and greenwald status sums it up by saying so these if you states are
perfectly content to allow a country
when it's the united states the used their air space to kidnap people from
around the world with no due process
but they will physically stop a plane carrying the president of a sovereign
state one is from latin america
in order to a subvert the well establish process for seeking asylum
from political prosecution the persecution
and yes agreed well thats
the u_s_ persecute whistleblowers
and
we know
what they have done to the likes of thomas drake
and by vandy and uh... the united states uh...
security state
what we have done
the likes of thomas drake
to the likes of bradley manning
uh...
caricom the
c former c_i_a_
reported on your leaked
uh...
the torture regime
we we know what they have done in terms of uh... attempted to prosecute them
uh... by any
definition bradley manning whether or not you believe you should be in jail
and uh... be tried for this
uh...
uninformed quote of the military justice
derek there seems to be little doubt that he was indeed
uh... persecuted if not
through solitary through
other means
at least affordable if the u_n_ and frankly the presiding judge of urs cases
said that those six months
uh... blimp way beyond the pale
so
this is really a stunning development and for
those of you who
take exception
with snow dns choices of
asylum or transit or what not
that'd undermines
he's case in some way and i'm not even sure what his cases
seems to me the documents make the case
we will not see i promise you
anyone in the establishment media
talking about how this
active by the united states
presumably and these european misstates he denied
safe passage of
the bolivian president airplane
this undercuts any case that they're making
you cannot say this guy some rogue spy whatever this madden trade created
stride dog that uh... straw man argument that
he has to be a patriot
of a hundred percent purity
for what he has revealed to be relevant and they're not also take into account
the fact
that f_a_a_ contre is willing to do this
to break a all international norms
to disrespect
long-standing institutions
like political asylum
whether they agree with the reason for asylum or not
and not think that this does not undercut the case
by the united states that this guy should have done anything different
then you're being disingenuous
the out