- Hey guys, Shawn at Custom Offsets, Custom Offsets TV
on the YouTube I Never Knew, Let's Get Lippy.
This has been something we talk about all the time
but we never really summed it up into a little story
like this.
So, I'm gonna be a little cocky here because I was this guy
so now I can make fun of that guy if you're that guy
so don't be all offended.
This is what everybody thinks they're gonna get when they
order their custom wheels, so show 'em that, Junior.
You got that?
Here, let's go old school on this.
This is what everybody thinks is gonna happen,
don't worry, Junior, I'll hold that up there.
They think they're gonna buy some wheels and gonna be
layin' hundos or fifties, maybe some dollar bills
and they're gonna show all their friends how they got
this massive lip and it's like eight inches
and they're rollin' on the deep dishes and they're just
out there straight pimpin' with their new wheels.
This is a 22 by 14 negative 76 offset
so it's a 22, it's 14 inches
of dusty wheel, wide,
and it's a negative 76 offset which means
they've moved the center line of the wheel
instead of being dead center, it's 76 millimeters
to the back, creating an even bigger lip
of over, 76 is almost three inches
of that it's moved back from the center.
That's what's creating that lip.
But what's happening is,
we have folks, that are, lemme just regroup my stuff here,
we have folks that are going out
and they're buying an 18 by nine
plus 18 wheel and they're getting this,
and what they had pictured was this,
what they hoped for is this,
which is a 10 wide negative 24 offset,
but what they ordered is this, a nine-wide
plus 18 offset, and then they get out,
they get out their fifty, their hundo,
their dollar bill to show their buddies
to make their new rap video with their iPhone
and it just won't stay on there
because they have no lip on their wheel.
And then they lay it on the long ways, take a couple
Snapchats, their friends make fun of it
and then they realize that they did something wrong.
Here's what you did wrong: 14-inch wide wheel obviously
means you can end up with a larger lip on the wheel
once it's all constructed, a nine-inch wide wheel,
I mean you're five inches less width, so the width
plays a humongous part.
Almost no nine-inch wheel on the market would be considered
a large lip or a lip wheel, it typically will never exceed
three inches of lip on a 9-inch wide no matter what
the offset is.
There aren't crazy-negative offsets, there's no such thing
as a nine-wide negative 44, there's actually no such thing
as a 10-wide negative 44 that I'm familiar with.
The nine-wides are not gonna be a lip wheel.
When you get into the 10-wides, there's companies
that are doing a negative 24, I believe Fuel's got a
negative 32 out there and you start to get some lip
and they're also starting to curve the spokes back
to create the illusion of an even larger lip,
and the typical is four, four-and-a-half
on a larger lip wheel, I've seen some of them gettin' up
to the five-inch mark, six-inch mark, even, I think on
some of the new ones that came out I can't remember
if it was the TIS Wheels or the Dropstars or something.
Dropstars? Where they're diving back on a 10-wide,
negative 24 and they're giving it all sorts of wheel lip
it's like six inches on a 10-wide.
That's the most you're gonna get out of a 10-wide, though.
When you're trying to get that huge lip wheel,
you have to at least a 12-wide, negative 44,
which most 12-wides are negative 44.
Now you're talking five to seven inches and Dropstars
I think managed to get almost like eight and a quarter?
I think, which is pretty awesome, but that was their intent
they're diving those spokes back to get that huge lip.
So, you gotta watch that.
Here's another example I wanted to show you,
this again right here is an 18 by nine
negative 12, so, oh, it's a negative offset
so it must have a big old lip on it.
No, it's only a nine-wide so it can't have that much
of a lip, and you'll see that with these bump-outs
it has even less, so it's like two-and-a-half between here
but those bump outs come right out to the front,
which basically don't give the illusion of a lip at all.
Here's that same wheel, but this is a 12 by negative 44
and you'll see in front of the spoke, now you're talking
four-and-a-half, almost five inches.
But see how these spokes come out towards
the lip of the wheel and then straight?
That's eating up some of that lip, so even though this is
a 12-wide, between the spokes you're still only
four-and-a-half, which typically on a 12-wide
you're gonna see six inches on a deep lip wheel.
So, I'm hoping that helps you because you really want to
pay attention.
The best way I know of to find out what you're gonna
end up with, is to go to the
Custom Offsets.com/gallery, and look at the actual wheels
by size, and all that really matters
is the width of the wheel and the offset on trucks.
Because if you look through anybody's store a lot of times
we're gonna have just stock images that we get from
the suppliers and from the manufacturers, and they're
obviously gonna show us the most sexy version of the wheel,
which typically is the 12-wides to 14-wides or at least
the 10-wides, not a lot of 'em, and we've been trying
to get more and more of them to true up and give us
the actual photos of those sizes, but we can't, it's just
too many photos, just too many options available,
so a lot of times you're gonna see these, but if you go out
to our gallery with almost 20,000 trucks in it now,
you're gonna be able to see an 18 by nine
plus or negative 12 offset and you'll be able to look
at the lip on that wheel,
and also see how much it sticks out,
or sucks in.
If you're trying not to get a lip wheel,
then you're on the right track when you go with
a nine-wide with an eight-and-a-half wide, something
like that, because you're not gonna have that extra barrel
sticking out in front of the spokes.
(deep breath)
Did I cover it Junior?
I feel like I did.
So that is Let's Get Lippy, I'm gonna go through 'em
one more time, 10-wide negative 24 you got about a
four-inch lip typically on a 10-wide that's trying to get
a lip wheel, a typical nine-inch wide, you're talkin'
about two inches of lip, a typical 14-inch wide,
you're gettin' up into the seven to nine-inch range
depending on the manufacturer and another nine-wide
you're not gonna hardly have any lip, a maximum
about two inches and another 12-wide, spokes start to
come forward and you'll see that in the designs
then you're gonna start eating into that six inches
and going down towards that four to five inch
because you're getting a concave look with it.
So you have to also watch for the concavity of the spokes.
That is Let's Get Lippy on another episode of
I Never Knew, Custom Offsets TV, peace.
(rolling chair)
(rock music)