JESSE: I AM LIBERTARIAN I
DON'T WANT TO ALL PEOPLE IN OR
OUT BUT I DO WANT OPEN BORDERS
EITHER YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE
INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO COME
FORMER TEXAS CONGRESSMAN RON
PAUL OFFERS AN ALTERNATIVE
SOLUTION TO THE IMMIGRATION
PROBLEMS PLAGUING OUR SOUTHERN
BORDER.
RON PAUL JOINS ME NOW WELCOME
TO THE SHOW CONGRESSMAN.
I KNOW YOU WERE A TEXAS SKY
FOR ALMOST ALL OF YOUR CAREER
SO YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE
PROBLEMS OF IMMIGRATION BUT
YOU ARE AGAINST THE WALL THAT
YOU THINK WE SHOULD LOOK
INWARD TO CREATE A NEW REALITY
WHERE WE ARE NOT ATTRACTING
IMMIGRATION?
HOW DOES THAT LOOK.
>> IT WOULD LOOK A LOT
DIFFERENT YOU HAVE TO EDUCATE
THE PEOPLE THAT EVERYBODY
COMES HERE ILLEGAL GET MEDICAL
CARE AND SCHOOL AND THE WHOLE
WORKS.
I REMEMBER ONE OF THE
INCENTIVES AND ONE OF THEM IS
CITIZENSHIP SO I HAPPEN TO
BELIEVE THE ILLEGAL SHOULD GET
IN LINE.
JESSE: SO DO YOU THINK RIGHT
NOW THE WAY THE WELFARE STATE
IS BAD IS PRIMARILY WIDE IS
ATTRACTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
OR DO THEY COME FOR THE CASH.
>> IF YOU WERE GOING BY
NUMBERS THE LARGE NUMBER WOULD
JUST LIKE TO GET HERE TO WORK
IN TEXAS I THINK THAT'S THE
CASE BUT THERE ALSO IS THE
INCENTIVE TO BECOME THE EZ
CITIZEN TO BRING THE KIDS
ALONG I DON'T THINK THAT
EXISTED VERY MANY OTHER
COUNTRIES SO THAT IS A
TREMENDOUS INCENTIVE BELIEVE
IT OR NOT THERE MAY BE SOME
POLITICAL ASPECTS ONE PARTY
THINKS THEY WILL GET MORE
VOTES IF THEY HAVE MORE
WELFARE.
JESSE: RIGHT.
EVEN IF THEY CAN VOTE YET THEY
ARE COUNTED IN THE CENSUS
WHICH DETERMINES DISTRICTING
THAT HELPS THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY BUT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY LIKES
THE CHEAP LABOR FOR THE OPEN
BORDERS AND THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY LIKES THE OPEN BORDERS
BECAUSE THEY WANT FUTURE
VOTERS SO HOW DO YOU GET BOTH
SIDES OF THAT EQUATION WHERE
IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND?
.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A
MIDDLE GROUND FOR THAT
AUTOMATIC CITIZENSHIP WITH THE
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AND THERE
SHOULD BE NO REWARDS FOR THAT.
PEOPLE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED
FOR THIS.
BUT THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM
BECAUSE CITIZENSHIP IS VERY
EASY I HAVE DELIVERED WOMEN
WHO JUST SHOW UP AND BECAUSE
THE CHILD WAS BORN HERE THEY
CAN GET ON WELFARE.
I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD
EXIST.
THE WHOLE THING IS THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY FOR WELFARE
WELFARE, IF THEY THINK IT'S
IMMORAL TO BUILD A WALL WHAT
WOULD PEOPLE THINK I WILL GIVE
THEM ANY WELFARE BENEFITS?
BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN
WELFARE REDISTRIBUTION ANYWAY.
>> THEY WOULD CALL YOU A MEAN
PERSON THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY
WHEN THEY DISAGREE.
SO TALKING ABOUT ATTRACTING
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS SO NOW THAT
LEADS ME TO THE NEXT TOPIC
CONGRESSWOMAN CORTEZ SHE WANTS
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE WHICH
COST BETWEEN 30 AND
$40 TRILLION.
IF YOU ARE SOUTH OF THE BORDER
AND YOU HEAR A NEW WAVE OF
DEMOCRATS WILL CONTEMPLATE TO
GIVE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE
DOESN'T THAT ATTRACT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION?
.
>> THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT AS
WELL THAT WOULD BE ENCOURAGING
WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE IF WE
WANT TO MARCH INTO JAPAN AND
SAY WHERE DO I SIGN UP AND HAD
WHITE BECOME A CITIZEN AND
WHERE DO I GO FOR MY MEDICAL
CARE AND EDUCATION?
JESSE: I DON'T THINK THEY
WOULD WELCOME US WITH OPEN
ARMS.
>> I THINK THAT SYSTEM IS
SOCIALISM BUT THAT IS DESIGNED
TO GET MORE POWER.
>> SO YOU THINK THAT
DEMOCRATIC PUSH IS ALL ABOUT
POLITICAL POWER?
DO THEY HAVE ANY COMPASSION TO
THE PEOPLE?
DO THEY EVEN BELIEVE THAT THEY
WORK I WOULD QUESTION IT BUT I
WOULDN'T LET THE REPUBLICANS
GET OFF AND WITH THAT
PRESCRIPTION HEALTH PROGRAM
THEY ARE GREAT.
JESSE: SO LET'S TALK QUICKLY
ABOUT SYRIA WHEN YOU RAN FOR
PRESIDENT YOU WERE AN
ISOLATIONIST AND WE'RE AGAINST
GETTING INVOLVED ESPECIALLY
THE MIDDLE EAST NOW THIS
PRESIDENT WILL WITHDRAW ABOUT
2000 TROOPS FROM SYRIA.
DO YOU SUPPORT THAT OR DO YOU
SEE ANY UNFORESEEN
CONSEQUENCES?
.
>> YES I DO SUPPORT IT BUT I
DON'T LIKE CALLING ME AN
ISOLATIONIST BECAUSE A GOOD
LIBERTARIAN IS VERY OPEN TO
TRADE.
I CONSIDER THE PEOPLE WHO PUT
SANCTIONS AND RESTRICT TRADE
TO GET INVOLVED IN PUNISHING
PEOPLE THEY ARE MORE
ISOLATIONIST THAN ANY
LIBERTARIAN.
ON MY LITTLE PROGRAM I WAS
EXCITED ABOUT SYRIA AND I
CHEERED THEM ON BUT I KEPT MY
FINGERS CROSSED WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN BUT I WOULD DO ANYTHING
TO ENCOURAGE THE PRESIDENT.
HE GAVE THE RIGHT ANSWERS WHAT
ARE WE DOING OVER THERE?
HE CAMPAIGNED ON BRINGING THEM
HOME.
BUT THE BIG PROBLEM HE HAS HE
DOESN'T GET REINFORCEMENTS
FROM THE VERY PEOPLE HE
APPOINTED.
THEN THEY GO OUT TO UNDERMINE
HIM TO SAY WE DIDN'T REALLY
MEAN THAT WE SHOULD NOT ONLY
COME HOME FROM SYRIA BUT
REMEMBER ALL THOSE ARE SET UP
UNDER EMERGENCY POWERS IF
YOU'RE WILLING TO HAVE DECENT
REFORM OF CURRENCY AND TRADE
IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF
ISOLATIONISM BRINGING PEOPLE