- Sometimes we fly to remote locations to look for old cars.
Sometimes we drive to locations.
This episode we're gonna walk.
So, you know, walking around this town like I do,
I used to run but now I don't run so much anymore.
You get to peek in garages.
But then, you know, sometimes
if I see a garage that looks inviting,
I'll peek in the window and see something inside there.
So, you know, walk past here and the garage door is open
and I said, son of a gun, there's an old MG in there.
So this is Jeff and he lives here
and he owns the MGA that I saw as I walked by.
So like how long has the MGA been parked?
- Oh, it's been, probably five years now.
- Well, let's take a look at it.
- Let's going this way and not much light in here, but yeah
it's tucked over in the corner as tight
as it can be so that we can use the rest of the garage.
- [Tom] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what year is that one?
- [Jeff] It's a ] 59.
I've had it since 1975.
Bought it for $400.
- [Tom] And where'd you buy it?
In Bar Harbor.
- [Both] Bar Harbor, Maine.
- [Jeff] But when I went to my dad
and said I'd like wanted to buy this car, he laughed at me.
He said, no way.
He thought that was a stupid, stupid thing, which
for a 20 year old to buy a 16 year old sports car
probably was stupid.
But, so I went to the bank thinking I'll get my first
car loan, right, I go to the bank
and said I'd like a car loan.
Oh great, Jeff, sit down, you know?
And I tell 'em I want a car loan for $400.
And to their credit, didn't laugh, but they did point out
that they don't do, didn't do car loans
for that little amount of money, but they said
but we'll give you a credit card.
And to this day I have my credit card, member since 1975.
That's how I know when I bought it.
- You bought it on a credit card?
- [Jeff] Yeah. - Isn't that cool?
Wow. - [Jeff] Yeah.
- And what kind of shape was it?
Was it like this?
- [Jeff] Oh no, it was a brush painted navy blue.
So streaks from the brush?
- [Tom] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- It has the Lucas Electrical system
that you just had to get used to pulling over occasionally
and opening the hood and stomping out a fire.
It was, but it ran, you know, it ran, it got me through.
And then that year I actually transferred from
the University of Maine to a little college out in Indiana.
And so we drove it out to Indiana with-
- You drove it from Maine to Indiana.
- Yeah, with a friend
of mine that was also transferring out there and my dog,
all my possessions on the back.
- [Tom] Wow.
- [Jeff] Both of our possessions actually, so.
- [Tom] Wow. - [Jeff] Yeah,
but we made it out there.
I was very fortunate when I got out there
to get a roommate that we had a house where
it was sort of a split level house that you could drive
down below when it had a garage.
And this roommate had been taking apart
and putting together a Volkswagen since he was a kid.
He just, and I'm not a motorhead
I didn't know anything really until I bought this car.
I've learned a lot about mechanics owning this car.
- [Tom] Yeah.
- [Jeff] That winter we took it apart
completely, stripped the paint.
- Whoa. Really?
- [Jeff] Took the paint off completely.
We replaced every moving part in the engine.
Put it all back together again.
Got it, except should replace the crank shaft
'cause as soon as I took it out in the spring,
the crank shaft broke in half.
Everything else was so tight.
- [Tom] Wow. - [Jeff] You know?
- [Tom] Yeah. Compression, wow.
- [Jeff] Yeah.
- [Tom] Take it all apart again.
- Yeah I had to hitch, had to come back to Bar Harbor, Maine
for a summer.
So I had to put it back in the garage for the summer
and I hitchhiked back to Maine.
Get back there in the following winter.
We took the motor all apart again
and replaced the crank shaft and we did a good job
except something, one of the pistons, it's already bored out
as much as it can.
So the rings on one of the pistons.
I don't think we got in quite right.
And the only real effect of that is has plenty of power
but it always smoked a little bit.
But part of the reason it's been sitting this time is
the smoking got worse to the point we're going
down the road no problem.
But every time I came to a stop sign,
if somebody came up behind me, I felt a little bad for them.
- Yeah, yeah, I get it.
So you're coming up
on 50 years of ownership on this thing pretty soon, wow.
- Yeah, you had to mention that.
Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
- [Tom] So I can figure out how old you are.
- [Jeff] Okay. Yeah.
- Well sir, listen,
I know you run businesses and stuff
so thanks for joining us here.
- Yeah, well thanks for taking interest in my car and-
- Yep. - Sorry I didn't, you know.
- Oh no, I like it like this.
- Clean it out a little bit.
- So I'm gonna continue walking
'cause we have a lotus to see.
- Wow. Really? - Yeah.
- [Jeff] Cool. - You didn't know that.
So what we're gonna see now is a car that a guy owns.
He's become a friend of mine.
And this is actually the first old car that I found
since moving to Boothbay Harbor.
So there's three cars in here
and all three are worth mentioning
but one is especially worth mentioning.
So this is my friend Bob and Gene's house
and they're not here, but they trust me to come here
and share their cars with you.
Interesting is a Ferrari 308.
And he is not the original owner
but he bought it when it was almost new.
And he's, this is like a daily driver for him,
believe it or not.
He does his own mechanic work on it.
It's an original shape, original paint
and you just see him buzzing around town
and life is good to see a Ferrari on the road.
This car is one, you know that I know really well.
It's an MGTD and I restored one
of these and actually just recently sold it.
I know them well.
I know every nut and bolt on these cars.
Bob bought this in 1961 for 225 bucks.
Here we are on 2022.
This car has been part of his life 61 years.
I really have to hand it to him.
You know, this was the car that America fell in love with.
MG Sports cars after World War ii,
There was MGTC, then the TD, the TF ultimately the MGA
which we saw just a little while ago.
And so this has been restored.
It's got a 1,250 CC engine.
I admire Bob that he bought this
I think right outta college.
But we're not here to see this car,
the Ferrari, or this car, the MG.
We're here to see this car.
This is an extremely rare
it's called a Lotus 11, lightweight aluminum body.
Lightweight aluminum interior.
A tubular frame that's very lightweight.
And it was built in England.
The head of lotus was Colin Chapman, slogan,
his motto was add lightness, in a racing car,
it should not be built to last more than one race.
It should fall apart at the finish line.
Otherwise it was overbuilt, it was too heavy.
Interesting philosophy, powered by
and this is really interesting, a Coventry Climax motor.
And this is the little Godiva emblem that was all,
on all the Coventry Climax engines.
Coventry Climax interestingly started off
as a water pump engine in England.
So a company made water pumps and a bunch
of young race drivers said, wait a minute,
those motors out in the field there,
they've got overhead cams, they're aluminum,
that might be a good race car.
So suddenly farmers were losing their engines,
they'd wake up in the morning in the motor that would be
powering their water pump was gone.
There'd be a race that weekend
in Goodwood or Silverstone or whatever.
Anyway, these wound up becoming the engines to race,
Coventry Climax then started to build racing engines as a,
in addition to water pump motors.
But this one's particularly interesting
because it has period racing history.
It ran in the 1957 Mille Miglia driven by Gregor Grant.
Mille Miglia means thousand mile.
And that's a race
in Italy that ran a thousand miles through towns
on public roads with cows in the road and people cheering
but had been run for years before and years after.
Well this one actually drove in that race.
It was also driven in various races
by Cliff Allison, Innes Ireland, both, you know, in fact,
Innes just passed away two months ago.
Cliff Allison, Innes, and actually Colin Chapman
actually the guy that built Lotus cars,
he actually raced this car in some circuit races
in the UK back in the day.
So Bob came across this because he was the art director
at an ad agency and they handled Lotus advertising
in the United States and Lotus was kind of folding up
their tent and they said, "Hey Bob,
you interested in that old Lotus in the back?"
And so he got this thing for, you know, not much money.
I think he got it 1979.
Sadly he wanted to enter it in the reenactment
of the Mille Miglia in 2022,
every year they do a reenactment.
But you must have a car that had competed
in the event back in the day.
Well this did, sadly, when COVID got in the way,
Bob became 80, this year, he would've been 81.
They said anybody 80 or over can't compete in that race.
So he sadly lost his opportunity to race this
in the Mille Miglia.
He was gonna do it with his daughter.
I'm gonna flip this up just so you can see how sleek this
car is but it looks like a wind cheating envelope
Drive, it's right hand drive, driver's head.
There's a faring right here, to me,
it's one of the most beautiful race cars I've ever built.
How I found this car, I love Boothbay Harbor.
My wife and I had come here, you know,
for a week vacation now and then for a long time.
And then we wound up buying a little house here.
And so this is where we spend our summer.
And so I said to my wife, you know,
there's no car people in Boothbay Harbor.
It's sailing people, there's a lot of artists.
This is where I come to read books and write books.
So we went to an art crawl, standing there looking
at the artwork on the wall.
And I hear two gentlemen talking over there
and he says, "Yeah, so then I downshifted
into third year and took the apex early, whatever."
And I said to my wife, "Excuse me,
but that's a conversation I need to be a part of."
And I walked over there and I said, "Excuse me,
are you talking about going into the Big Bend at Lime Rock?"
He said, "Yeah."
I said, "Well my name's Tom Carter,
I didn't know there were any racing guys in town."
So I met, that's how I met Bob.
So this is actually the first car I found.
He said, "You come over tomorrow,
I'm gonna show you a car in my garage, it'll flip you out."
And this is it.
Because Bob and his wife are not here,
they allowed me entry into the garage
but he did leave his scrapbook.
And so I just wanna show you this, chassis number 308,
that's the car when it was new and racing.
This car was built for the grueling 1,000 mile
world champion Italian road race known as the Mille Miglia.
So this, these are pictures
and it's so rare to have pictures like this.
These pictures from 1957.
So 65 years ago, 66 years ago, this car was going
through tech inspection for the Milli Amelia.
So here it is,
Gregor Grant going through tech inspection in Italy.
So there's a map here showing
the thousand mile race through public roads.
You know, again, period racing pictures.
Here's some racing that it did
with driver Clifford Allison at, qualified 18th,
finished ninth in a six hour race.
Finished first, qualified fifth, finish first and a DNF.
You know, not bad
but here's Colin Chapman, there's the car.
Just an amazing piece of history.
Stories about it back in the day.
Stories about it when it was restored.
There's Bob McKay back when he bought the car in 1979.
Bob bought that car in 1961, still has it today.
Bought this car in 1979, still has it today.
Bought this car sometime in the mid eighties.
Still has it today.
Gotta loved an enthusiast
like that that buys a car 'cause he loves it
and keeps it, even when they become real valuable
and doesn't sell it.
So follow me as I go to my next walk to barn find location.
Let's go. (upbeat music)
Walking around town looking for old cars,
exhausting, especially when you got hills involved.
But there's a car here that I think you guys
are gonna want to see.
Hey Chris.
- [Chris] Hey, good morning.
- Oh, I don't wanna interrupt your gardening here.
- [Chris] It's okay.
Morning, beautiful day
- It is a beautiful day, yep.
This is Chris and he lives in this house
and he can actually see my house from his house.
But I came by here once
and there was a stingray parked right up in front there.
And then it disappeared.
And then last year I came by and the door was open
and there it was.
- Yeah, I've had it a long time.
- All right, well I would love to see it
and these guys wanna see it too.
- [Chris] Yeah, it's still here.
- [Tom] I bet not a lot of people know
you have this thing, huh?
- [Chris] Yeah, it's been a while since I've had it out
and about. - [Tom] Yep.
When have you, when was the last time you drove it?
- [Chris] A couple of years ago.
- [Tom] So what year is it?
- [Chris] It's a '65.
It's got a manual gear box. - [Tom] Yep.
- [Chris] Four speed, 327.
- [Tom] And how long have you had it?
- [Chris] I've had it since 1990.
- [Tom] 32 years. - Yep.
- So what inspired you to buy a Corvette?
- My friend's got a nice '71 Camaro with a big block in it.
And I want to have something that would compete with him.
Right? - [Tom] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- And there's not much that can, so I said, well,
I'm gonna look at Corvette's and I was looking for 68 to 72.
- [Tom] Yep. - This is before
the internet and all that.
I got one of the Corvette magazines
or whatever and got a flyer from Pro team
- Pro team, I remember Pro team, yeah.
- Yeah, they're still around.
- They're in Ohio, Napoleon, Ohio.
- Napoleon, Ohio. - Yeah.
- [Chris] So they had a listing of all kinds,
this is like a Corvette supermarket, right.
And I said, oh, this is great.
You know, I can go to one place,
I'm not gonna have to go all over, right.
The funny thing is, is that-
- So you flew out there
with a one way ticket not having purchased the car yet.
- That's right. - Wow.
- They had a flyer and there was like multiple cars
that I was interested in. - [Tom] Yeah.
- And I called him up, I said, do you have this car?
They said, yeah, everything we have on the thing
is in stock.
Do you have this car?
So I quit, the guy was getting agitated about me asking
if he had it in stock, so I quit asking.
Right? - Yeah.
- So we get out there
and the one that I really was interested in-
- Was outta stock. - Was in transit.
- Geez.
- So we get looking at all these cars and there was one,
it was a 68 T Top 427, not matching numbers.
So I was crawling all under it and I saw a piece
of chain around the motor mount and I said, well,
that looks hokey or whatever.
And I said, all right, onto the next one, right?
- [Tom] Yeah.
- [Chris] The day is getting old and it's like,
it's time to either buy a ticket or buy a car.
Right? - [Tom] No.
- And so then I was looking
at like a '62, but it was a mismatch.
And the guy says, why are you looking at that car?
I said, well, you know, I'm starting to open my mind.
Right? - Yeah.
- He said, well, if you're interested in a different year,
you should look at this one.
- [Tom] This one. - Got it. Yeah.
- And you bought it and you.
- Bought it and off we drove home.
- And it drove home fine. - Yep.
- [Tom] So is this the numbers matching?
- [Chris] Yep. - [Tom] It is. Really?
- Yep, so my ignorance of the, oh back to the 427.
So a guy was helping me out with a mechanical work on this
and he, I told him the whole story.
He says, oh, that was a factory recall in '68
'cause the 427s were breaking motor mounts.
- So they chained it.
- And so they would put a chain on there
and I'm like, well sometimes ignorance pays off
because this is,
you know, I didn't think I could afford this car
or whatever.
- So you're friend with the Camaro,
was he impressed with your one upmanship or no?
- Well I think that car is actually rarer than this.
When we were looking at this, I mean they made a bunch
of these, you know. - Yeah. Okay.
- And his car is into the, I don't know,
couple of thousands production
or something like that, when we I mean this goes-
- [Tom] Fortune Camaro, that's a rare one, yeah.
- Yeah.
- [Tom] So 327, you know who knows how many horsepower,
they made 340, 370, 90?
- [Chris] Yeah, it's probably around 300.
- [Tom] Yeah. Okay.
So kind of a lower performance, but a great car.
- Yep. - [Tom] So how many miles
do you think you've driven in 32 years?
- [Chris] On this, I don't know.
Probably less than 10 thou or 10,000 maybe.
- Yeah, okay, okay and it was a good driving car.
- Yeah.
- And it would still be a good driving car?
I mean- - Yeah.
- Nothing's changed. - No.
- You didn't park it 'cause it broke something?
- No.
- So it's got the knockoff optional-
- [Chris] Yeah.
- Fin wheels here and I can't tell if they're, you know-
- [Chris] No, those, I put those on and-
- Oh, you did?
- Like the next year I got it.
- Okay, so these are the repos.
- Yeah. - [Tom] Yeah.
Not that it matters to me, I don't care.
But these, these were aa style of wheel that, you know,
there was a a five bolt wheel you could bolt that came
with it, like a rally rim.
But this was an optional knockoff rim.
And I guess these are the reproductions of 'em.
You know, we've seen cars
around Boothbay and they're mostly foreign cars, you know,
mostly MGs, Triumphs, things like that.
This is an unusual car and I'm really happy I met you
because you know, too many of my people watch this programs.
Oh, how come you'll, you know,
always go after those foreign cars.
I don't go after anything.
I just opened the door and whatever's there is-
- Right. - The story, you know.
But this has got a neat story and you're a neat guy.
And I hope that, yeah,
you start having fun with it again.
Will, sir, thanks for meeting us this morning.
Go back to your watering and I'll stop back
in a couple years and see if you've made any progress.
- Okay. - All right.
- If I get it going, I'll swing by.
- Thank you Chris.
- Or when I get it going. - Happy hunting.