wife's
let's move to some other the midterm or
off-year election results that happened a couple weeks ago I
and I think you know a little bit later on we're going to get into the
interior the democratic party which I I was actually on our
blog had yesterday talking about some of these issues that there's a lot of
interesting
falling to talk about governor Hamburglar New Jersey
I didn't but I want you were gonna get right there in a second so I feel like
those are the three things I think for it with Bill de Blasio in Boston and
there's some other examples where there was
I mean there is a socialist look like looks like she's about to get on the
City Council in Seattle I mean there was an anti-austerity
aggressive it was a very overall very progressive larry very progressive and
then there's this to remember again
that the Hamburglar himself tell me if you put that mask on and you wouldn't
think he was a member
admit an aspirin start saying about
even he or do you see any you know I came back here in New York premiere you
know
the to see my family selling my dad passed away and that's the reason I was
on the show last week
I was able to you know this to see some other the campaign ads in some what was
going on here
and and you know all Christie deadline I saw
with him pretending to be liberal was all him hugging people
after could go after sixty so he also ended the issue alive
right like there's the precautionary don't like 10 oz which is I take care of
people who need
the government mmm that was his message
right right so in theory but you're right what happened in seattle is huge
city that I currently live in Cincinnati you had sum UZS
Koch brothers like I Alec
based your pension reform is an she was going to rob
working people these pensions they built up over their lifetimes
who works for the city in Cincinnati was soundly defeated
when these guys came into my was defeated e20
that's great was destroyed alright their attempt to attack
you know look at that as a as a no way almost a proxy for the attacks on
privatizing Social Security
cadets about were the population stands privatization
verses forces a Social Security e20 well that's how it went down
in Cincinnati there are you know there are a lot a progressive issues obviously
Bill de Blasio victory was was was a huge one wonder
the current state have the above you know in virginia was huge
you know we can have a conversation sure we are going to you about
Terry McAuliffe centrist yeah let's let's get to in a minute
sure Asia on gay marriage our mind
being pro-abortion rights a hundred percent and are not just supporting a
background check
but on supporting an assault weapons ban in supporting
limiting magazines at eight to ten bullets are less hearing on a very and
taking I
on Medicaid expansion so but we'll get we'll get back to that in a second but
first let's
you know the chris Christie obsession I think
is just it's so stunning on so many levels to use a Sam word because it's
like just as you're saying right there
his advertising his reelection campaign was
built on thematically progressive an inclusive themes which is completely
belied by his record the other thing that also is fastened across the
is that this is a guy he scripts from Obama
on every single a major address he has his his
his Republican can address the 2012 was %uh version of Obama's 2004 speeches I
it's improbable that I'm here who would have expected it
although on the other hand it's like well now it's actually really not that
improbable that like a big obnoxious go
be governor of New Jersey and his acceptance speech
I after his reelection hit these themes I love in his own way not red not blue
I you know competent bringing people together
and it's amazing to me the way like you know he's morning Joe's love interest in
everybody has
this kind of kashmir like Joe Scarborough
and so many guys they're just looking they're just
begging give me rudy giuliani
republican give me a John McCain you know these guys
he like it but he's also like a george bush I would argue I media in the sense
that his highly acclaimed
image OJ went into his record is very right-wing
and it's incredibly crony and incompetent
i mean i i just want you to kinda run down the list your on Christie because
it just
right I donald where audio for sale yeah yes lets one analyst
a in general yeah which is for tomorrow I
berates people I in a nasty way when everyone whenever anybody disagree with
them
is a is a pretty vicious guys gone after teachers
cut budgets for all search it things mental health arrested and
decimated budget in New Jersey in poll by the way
in your piece recently written for The Daily Beast by
denoble hello I know you had on the show his economic record Sox
okay which he is I the New Jersey unemployment rate is 8.5 percent right
now
alright its 41st in the nation its 44th in job growth
its credit rating has been downgraded twice Friday 27 states whose economy
actually shrank
in 2011 ranked 47th in terms of GDP growth
it you know it's each morning you know it when the highest taxed 8
still even with all of that to his taxes don't seem to be doing anything
mortgage delinquencies have gone way up poverty is going way out
so by any measure ingredient I think you could wreak havoc on record me
well yeah I'm a Republican just right like to lie claim
you know Bill Clinton everything happening Arkansas was his fault he ran
I understand these other factors going on there Jersey I'm not blaming
Christie for everything right that's a pretty crappy economic record overall he
certainly hasn't helped things
and if anything he's made things worse far worse with his policies
then you start on whether cronyism is being investigated by the justice
department
he gave all sorts of contracts to campaign a
supporters when he was elected he's he had to apologize before for targeting
others with where you know targeting other arrivals appears
I India in terms of his prosecutions as a state attorney
I he goes on to the the Romney people look at the
portfolios things that this guy to get in trouble for
and say we can we can touch with a ten-foot pole he lobbied no financial
return if you don't agree one football
as well I before he was you know in elected office he was a lobbyist that he
lobbied to exempt our wall street from New Jersey's at the
fraud consumer protections 3 lobbying for Bernie Madoff
right nice event I mean he's you know each other as a record above
exactly what it is that has has caused so much trouble and rector
economy he's a record above
crony capitalism which overturning regulations that are necessary for our
economy to function incentive
guys on wall street in each other basically the equivalent Brownback's
money while telling the rest of the story they cost us our lives a life
savings
he shown that propensity well as in governor New Jersey
while as we've pointed out their economy isn't terribly
well he's her teachers he heard firemen he's heard policemen ease her
others he's going after public sector unions
you know so I mean you're talking about a guy here that
that just because he is due to be no better acquittal that what happened with
Rudy Giuliani
we even more right wing man by the way because he's also
anti-choice anti-gay marriage passed here are a few gun control
or gun safety laws I would call them but then vetoed a bill
to hear the stories on bill the proposed so you now can still get a sniper rifle
for anybody flying at Newark
anytime soon I might be a concern appears
to make a sniper rifle said five hundred yards away
shoes aircraft so I mean arm you which these are we don't but never bring a
rifle .50 caliber second takedown
small aircraft I so he started to bend to the right already
on the number varies so he's terrible social policy but again
giuliani's approval rating was taking in New York 9/11 happened
he had one day we acted like a human being or maybe a couple days
spokespeople you note seemed like he was in control
and that was something that rehabilitated this guy from the ashes
only christie's numbers have fallen quite is low but they were in the low
50's in their run it down swing
and then what happened happened in New Jersey essentially
he show that unlike certain other Republicans he was actually willing to
touch a black guy
right so that was enough for people say oh my God he's a moderate because he put
his arm around a black president
no answer at all except funding to not have my people
store not have my people be homeless and
you know that changed the entire look pretty village in Cheney was underneath
with this guy and that will come out
no no doubt this really important because it the last thing
that i think is input is important to emphasize we've been getting at here
is is the whole frame him as
a you know as this republican moderate in a mean for me in my mind like the
last republican moderate
that existed was you know I lincoln Chafee who's now I actually think now he
was independent now is actually Democrat right he was an actual like republicans
centrist
in right for my castle or my cat right there in a creepy way light and delaware
and that meant that they had actual distinct policy positions on the
environment on whatever
I you know chris Christie to me again I think you're right in terms of
the politics are the northeaster who cannot translate to the rest the country
because it's hard not to see is
all and has been kinda over-hyped nationally the giuliani parallels
is there but I in other respects its really
it strikes me as being a lot like George W Bush in the sense that this state
record that's incredibly crony thats
ultra-right wing and there's just this
agreed-upon brand that everybody's perpetuating a moderation
that is all in just the tonal stance it has nothing to a policy
and its distinct from you know there's the Tea Party crazies
and then there's the crony George W Bush chris Christie republicans
that just want the rib you know the party to tone it down a little bit so
they can privatize Social Security and read that need the economy
by many and he's the worst he could be the worst of all worlds
yes I will say you're right now and i'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong I'll
stay here he is
no chance in the Republican primary I hand it
and here's the thing is he's actually quite
right-wing on a number of issues I which are going to come out which
northeastern moderates I and others
are going to get angry about and not like when they find out more about his
record on issues like choice
on issues like gay marriage in other issues which they don't really a people
or information don't know about
so the reality is really right wing into his biggest supporters come from
crossover democrats
independence moderate republicans when the real record comes out that's going
to change that
yet the beautiful thing about him is is a ESA
the few areas where he has actually realistically been
semi moderate which is except in not moderate seem much call
accepting money for sandy I
be in favor of some former immigration reform in favor
love a few forms of gun safety legislation
striking out on Islam leading global warming yeah global warming
immigration and gun control are all non-starters for the Tea Party you're
done
right you can be had been favored me that stuff and
here's the thing you can hide from that stuff and say what change even Paul Mitt
Romney all you want
here's what you can do just ask charlie Crist and Florida
to kick it with the images love you with your arm around the black president
and if you don't think when their listing all these things about him
his support for various gun regulation is support for
even for civil unions frankly which is not nearly far enough which is just
putting the baby
and have it doesn't make anybody happy but certainly gonna piss off
right-wing Tea Partiers and evangelicals he supports passport for immigration
reform in meeting global warming is happening
well you combine that with the image they're gonna put know they had to do
the ads
so I we cut if I were them with him having it you know which they did the
charlie Crist
over the stimulus in Florida and destroyed Christian the Republican Party
with his arm around Obama you know
forget about it you done no I had to appear at any rate forget about it
peco what that that that's ok my segue to the final thing I will tell you
which is I will give this to you as someone who grew up in northeastern
everything
the me being centralized in New York
and Washington I don't see it as with any should have disrespect to people who
live their lives in New York for live their lives in Washington
I'm a born and bred New Yorker and I still love new york. I lived for eight
years in washington DC
I went to college in Philadelphia you know I'm no really I I spent most my
life
minorities but I will tell you this is somebody who now lives in the midwest
for a couple of years
which is that chris Christie yelling at people parading people in their face
allowed now saying he doesn't play right places like where I live out when I
consider charming
it's considered obnoxious even among people that might agree with him
politically
it's considered rude it was the problem giuliani
and then you had in the ethnic component other which is not fair but is
but is just being honest with you which is you're talking about evangelical
voters
we have to look in Italian Catholic you know
who fits the stereotype %uh sopranos
and I'm telling you they will be all the people that will just be viscerally
uncomfortable with them so you combine everything we've just talked about
from the crony capitalism to the personality issues in the midwest in
South
they are gonna play to the fact that he's been
too chummy with Obama into quote-unquote moderate or seen
on the issues a tea party will freak out about to northeasterners finding out the
really is much more right-wing really think
pay a lot of II will tell you right now to do not make it a Republican primaries
any major general election you be killed but he will be not making it to the
primary I agree with you 100 percent i'd only add i
that he also spoke out really eloquently and I will always given credit for this
on
on Islamophobia New Jersey which is like that when I don't think
that's another you get a chance you're right he can't he should get that to his
credit I did for supporting immigration reform right
think but that's not it kilometer primary metric eliminate keep our heads
up
really point michael Africa Egypt it's not that
see yet let's see how that plays in the South Carolina primary
absent or not because right now for talking I wish to add midwestern
primaries
you know because that will help more that we lost the Midwest lately it's
more moderate in the south
wherever tell you in places like Indiana and Michigan and
rural parts of Indiana Michigan Wisconsin you know Ohio
where you've got ally the constituency that vote republican
chris Christie's attitude the way he behaves in gonna play the summer is
gonna be like
why is he yelling at me when he heard the black guy that's more like a
candidate accent be getting that they rushed