CATCH YOU MONDAY.
"OUTNUMBERED" STARTS NOW.
>> FOX NEWS ALERT FOR YOU.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS HITTING BACK
AT THE MEDIA WITH HIS GROWING
FEUD WITH THE SQUAD.
THIS AS ONE OF THEM GETS A HOME
COMING IN HER DISTRICT.
THIS IS "OUTNUMBERED."
I'M MELISSA FRANCIS.
THIS IS HARRIS FAULKNER.
CARLI
CARLEY SHIMKUS IS HERE, CAPRI
CAFARO AND GUY BENSON, HOST OF
THE GUY BENSON RADIO SHOW.
HE'S "OUTNUMBERED."
I LOVE HAVING YOU HERE ON A
FRIDAY.
A LOT OF NEWS.
WE NEED YOU.
>> AND WE'RE IN A FRIDAY MOOD
HERE ON THE COUCH.
COCKTAILS BEFORE WE CAME ON AIR.
NOT DRINKING THEM YET.
>> WE DISCUSSED MAKING THEM.
>> YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
ON THAT NOTE, THE BATTLE GOES ON
BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE
SQUAD AMID BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE POLITICAL IMPACT.
CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN OMAR
RETURNING TO A CHEERING CROWD IN
HER HOME DISTRICT OF MINNESOTA
YESTERDAY.
LISTEN.
[CHANTING].
SHE THEN DOUBLED DOWN ON HER
CRITICISM OF THE PRESIDENT AFTER
CALLING HIM A FASCIST EARLIER IN
THE DAY AND VOWED TO REMAIN A
THORN IN HIS SIDE.
>> WHEN I SAID I WAS THE
PRESIDENT'S NIGHT MARE, YOU'RE
WATCHING IT NOW.
BECAUSE HIS NIGHTMARE IS SEEING
A SOMALI IMMIGRANT REFUGEE BEING
IN CONGRESS.
HIS NIGHTMARE IS SEEING THE
BEAUTIFUL MOSAIC FABRIC OF OUR
COUNTRY WELCOME SOMEONE LIKE ME
AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS FROM
MINNESOTA.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A
NIGHTMARE TO THIS PRESIDENT
BECAUSE HIS POLICIES ARE A
NIGHTMARE TO US.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THE FAKE
NEWS MEDIA BECAME CRAZED OVER
THE CHANT "SENT HER BACK" BY THE
PACKED ARENA BUT WILL ACCEPT THE
CRAZED STATEMENTS MADE BY THE
CONGRESS WOMEN.
MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS BECOME A
PART OF THE RADICAL LEFT
DEMOCRAT PARTY.
IT'S A SICK PARTNERSHIP, SO
PATHETIC TO WATCH.
THEY EVEN COVER ADD TINY STAGE
CROWD AS THEY GREETED FOUL-MOUTH
CROWD AS THEY GREETED FOUL-MOU H
FOUL-MOUTHED ILHAN.
ALL RIGHT.
IS THAT IT?
I LOVE THE DRAMATIC READING OF
THE TWEETS.
IT'S SOMETHING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, GUY?
>> THIS IS A SQUABBLE THAT IS
NOT GOING AWAY.
IT WORKS FOR BOTH SIDES.
>> FOR EVERYBODY.
>> THE SQUAD LOVES HAMMERING
TRUMP AND TRUMP REALIZES TYING
THEM TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT
LARGE IS BENEFICIAL TO THEM.
WE'LL READ MORE OF THESE FROM
THE PRESIDENT, SEEING THESE
TYPES OF SOUND BITES FROM OMAR.
I WOULD POINT OUT TO HER AND I
FELL LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS
WERE TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE, BUT
FOR MANY AMERICANS, THEIR WORST
NIGHTMARE IS NOT A WOMAN OF
COLOR OR A SOMALI REFUGEE COMING
TO AMERICA AND GETTING ELECTED
TO CONGRESS.
THE WORST NIGHTMARE ARE THE
DISASTROUS POLICIES THAT SHE
SUPPORTS AND HER BIGOTRY, WHICH
IS NIGHTMARISH FOR AMERICANS AND
PARTICULARLY JEWS.
SO SHE CAN CAST HERSELF AS A
HERO.
THAT WORKS FOR HER AND HER BASE.
WHAT SHE AND HER TEAM REPRESENT
IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK ON A
POLICY LEVEL QUITE DANGEROUS.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT HER BIGOTRY.
THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE IRONY
LIES, CAPRI.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE MOSAIC
FABRIC.
HE DOESN'T LIKE IT.
AND SAYING THAT HE'S A RACIST,
BUT SHE'S THE ONE, YOU KNOW, WHO
HAS BEEN QUITE OUTSPOKEN IN HER
ANTI-SEMITISM.
>> THIS IS WHERE DEMOCRATS HAVE
LOST CREDIBILITY HERE.
THEY WERE NOT FORCEFUL ENOUGH
WHEN THEY HAD THAT RESOLUTION
THAT WAS SORT OF -- CAME ABOUT
BECAUSE OF THE ANTI-SEMITIC
REMARKS OF REPRESENTATIVE OMAR
AND THEY WATERED IT DOWN.
I BEEN VERY OUTSPOKEN AGAIN
ABOUT MY CRITICISM OF HER
ANTI-SEMITIC REMARKS.
I'VE SAID SO PUBLICLY MANY TIMES
AND ON FOXNEWS.COM AND ARTICLES.
HERE'S WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
GIVING THEM AMMUNITION.
WHEN THINGS LIKE THE SEND HER
BACK CHANT OCCURS OR SOME
TWEETS, WHICH HAVE BEEN
DENOUNCED AND HE'S TRIED TO
DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM THAT.
WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, IT
GIVES THE SQUAD AN OPPORTUNITY
TO SAY THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT
SOCIALISM VERSUS CAPITALISM OR
POLICY AND IDEOLOGY DIFFERENCES
THIS IS ABOUT US VERSUS THEM AND
THE OTHER VERSUS THE REST OF
AMERICA.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE
TRYING TO DO.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO
CONVEY.
>> CAN I ASK A QUICK FOLLOW UP
TO THAT?
WHY IS IT THAT THE SO-CALLED
SQUAD WON'T TAKE A WIN?
THEY COULD LOOK AT THIS --
>> THEY LOVE THE CAMERA.
>> YES.
BUT THAT'S -- A LOT OF PEOPLE ON
CAPITOL HILL LIKE THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HAPPENED YESTERDAY WITH THE
PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T
JUST DISAVOW THE CHANT "SEND HER
BACK."
HE STEPPED IT UP.
HOGAN GIDLEY WAS ON WITH ME,
DOUBLING DOWN ON STEPPING IT UP.
IT IS MOVEMENT TO HEAR THE
PRESIDENT AND HITS TEAM SAY NOT
ONLY DO WE DISAVOW THAT BUT IF
AND WHEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN, THE
PRESIDENT WILL TAMP IT DOWN.
>> WE'LL WAIT AND SEE IF HE
DOES.
>> SO MY POINT IS, THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE PEOPLE
THAT SAY THEY CARE ABOUT THE
WORDS HE'S USING.
FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO SAY MAYBE WE
MOVED THE NEEDLE WITH HIM A
LITTLE BIT.
>> WE'LL SEE IF IT HAPPENS
AGAIN.
>> THAT GETS US TO LESS OF A
HATE TONE AND MORE OF A PURPOSE
TONE AND MOVES US FORWARD.
ALL OF THOSE ISSUES THAT MELISSA
TICKS OFF DAILY SO FINELY AND SO
RIGHTLY ARE STILL SITTING THERE
TO BE TALKED ABOUT.
>> I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF
SOMETHING THAT CAPRI SAID.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD
WEEK FOR THE PRESIDENT.
68% OF AMERICANS FOUND HIS
TWEETS TO BE OFFENSIVE.
43% OF REPUBLICANS FOUND THEM
OFFENSIVE.
THE REASON WHY PRESIDENT TRUMP
IS IN OFFICE IS BECAUSE OF HIS
PRO AMERICA MESSAGE.
SAYING "SEND HER BACK" IS NOT
PRO AMERICAN.
IT GAVE OCASIO-CORTEZ AND ILHAN
A CHANCE TO SAY WHY THEY WENT TO
WASHINGTON D.C.
>> THEY COULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT
ON THEIR OWN?
>> I'M NOT --
>> THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
>> IT GAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY
WITH THAT PRESS CONFERENCE TO
FOCUS ON THAT.
>> OKAY.
>> IT ALSO --
>> COMING UP WITH IDEAS FOR THE
BORDER WOULD BE A WAY TO SHOW
YOU LOVE THE COUNTRY.
>> I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS
ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT THEIR
POLICY OR HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT
AMERICA.
THIS WAS A SELF-INFLICTED WOUND
BY THE PRESIDENT.
HE NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL.
>> LET'S LISTEN TO ALEXANDRIA
OCASIO-CORTEZ AND WHAT SHE SAID
ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
>> IT'S TAKEN US 240 YEARS FOR
US TO HAVE THIS UNIQUE COMPOSITE
OF A CONGRESS IN THIS MOMENT.
WE WILL NOT GO BACK.
WE WILL NOT GO BACK, WE WILL GO
FORWARD.
BUT WE SURE AS HELL WILL NOT
STANDSTILL.
>> WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THAT,
GUYS, WHAT HAS BEEN SET UP HERE
IS VERY CLEAR.
IT'S THE CRYSTALLIZATION OF WHAT
IS COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S THIS CHOICE BETWEEN THIS
GROUP AND THIS SOCIALISM ON THE
LEFT AND THE PRESIDENT AND HIS
POLICIES.
ALL OF THIS YOU'RE NOT HEARING
FROM ANY OF THE 2020 CANDIDATES.
THEY'RE TOTALLY KNOCKED OUT OF
THE CONVERSATION.
YOU COULD STOP PEOPLE ON THE
STREET AND ASK THEM FOR RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT ON THE DEMOCRATIC
SIDE, SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THEY
ARE.
THEY WOULD BE CONFUSED.
>> THEY'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH.
>> I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING
ABOUT THIS BROADER CONVERSATION
AND THE DEBATES NOW THAT WE'RE
HAVING BECAUSE OF THIS FEUD BACK
AND FORTH.
YOU ASKED WHY CAN'T THEY TAKE A
WIN?
SEEMS LIKE THE SQUAD MIGHT HAVE
THE UPPER HAND ON THE PRESIDENT
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY ILHAN OMAR
SAYS I'M GOING TO SPONSOR BDS,
WHICH IS AN ANTI SEMITIC
FUNDAMENTALLY MOVEMENT AGAINST
ISRAEL.
IT'S BEEN CALLED ANTI-SEMITIC BY
CHUCK SCHUMER, CALLED HATEFUL
AND DANGEROUS BY NANCY PELOSI.
SHE COMES OUT THE NEXT DAY AND
SAYS I'M GOING TO BE THE LEAD
SPONSOR.
>> THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP NEEDS TO BE
TWEETING ABOUT.
>> NOT IDENTITY.
>> EXACTLY.
>> IT WOULD BE A MAJOR WIN FOR
THE PRESIDENT.
>> AND MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS
NEXT FOR THE SQUAD.
IF I'M A DEMOCRAT AT THIS POINT,
WHY IS IT JUST THEM AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT?
WE HAVE 25 CANDIDATES OR SO --
>> 340 --
>> NORTH OF TWO DOZEN CANDIDATES
RUNNING FROM OUR PARTY AND ALL
OF THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS ON
THE HILL, BUT THESE ARE THE
FOUR.
SO IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, ARE YOU
FEELING LIKE A LITTLE
TOO?
>> YEAH.
>> PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE A
MODERATE YOU FEEL LEFT OUT IN
THE COLD.
>> JOE BIDEN.
MEANWHILE, DUELLING NARRATIVES
ARE EMERGING ON THE PRESIDENT'S
RESPONSE TO THE FEWERER OVER THE
"SEND HER BACK" CHANT WEDNESDAY
NIGHT.
POLITCO SAYS THIS IS VINTAGE
TRUMP.
HE TOSSED HIS OWN BASE UNDER THE
BUS TO DEFLECT OUTRAGE FOR GOP
ALLIES.
IT'S THROW-BACK TO A FIELD
TESTED PLAYBOOK.
PUSH THE RHETORIC FURTHER AND
TIP TOE BACK.
THE WALL STREET ASSERTS THE
PRESIDENT IS SINCERE WRITING
DONALD TRUMP RARELY ADMITS A
MISTAKE MUCH LESS AN
OVERSTATEMENT.
SO WE'LL TAKE THE REGRET, HE
EXPRESSED AT THE CHANTED OF
"SEND HER BACK" OF THE
EQUIVALENT OF AN APOLOGY.
LET'S HOPE HIS SUPPORTERS GET
THE MESSAGE AND MR. TRUMP STEPS
EGGING THEM ON.
HERE'S MR. TRUMP WITH THE
COMMENTS THAT THE JOURNAL AND
POLITCO SEE DIFFERENTLY.
>> I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THAT
CHANT.
I'D SUGGEST YOU GO THERE, YOU GO
TO NORTH CAROLINA AND ASK THE
PEOPLE WHY THEY SAID THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
>> WILL YOU STOP THEM IF THEY
DID IT AGAIN?
>> I DIDN'T LIKE THAT THEY DID
IT AND I STARTED SPEAKING
QUICKLY.
I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH IT.
I DISAGREE WITH IT.
I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
THEY DID.
>> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT HE DID
ADMIT ANOTHER MISTAKE.
HE ADMITTED IT TO ME IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
IT WAS A MISTAKE TO HIRE MICHAEL
COHEN.
HE SAID THAT CLEARLY.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE SAID
WOW!
YEAH, HE ACKNOWLEDGED IT.
SOME GOP MEMBERS GOT TOGETHER
EARLY YESTERDAY MORNING AND THE
WHITE HOUSE DID HEAR FROM SOME
REPUBLICANS.
>> SO CAPRI AND I WERE ON YOUR
PANEL YESTERDAY ON O.T. AS IT
BROKE.
THE PRESIDENT IS THE ONLY PERSON
IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE POWER TO
PUT A STOP TO THIS TYPE OF STUFF
AMONG HIS OWN SUPPORTERS.
HE DID MAKE SIMILAR NOISES IN
2016 OVER "LOCK HER UP", THAT
CHANT, WHICH IS NOT AS BAD
NEARLY AS -- SHE SAID OH, I
DIDN'T LIKE IT AND I DISAGREE.
I HOPE IF THIS COMES UP AGAIN,
WHICH FINGERS CROSSED IT WON'T,
HE WILL INTERVENE PERSONALLY TO
PUT AN END TO IT.
I THINK HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO
YESTERDAY AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL
FOLLOW-THROUGH.
>> A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINKS
HE NEEDS TO WALK THINGS BACK.
HE DOESN'T DO IT.
>> HE DID IT HERE.
>> I KNOW.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I AGREE WITH THE "WALL STREET
JOURNAL" WHERE I THINK IT IS THE
MORAL EQUIVALENT OF AN APOLOGY
FOR HIM.
BECAUSE HE DOESN'T DO THAT.
>> CAN I POINT OUT THAT THE
APOLOGY WAS A GOOD MOVE.
BUT HE CAN'T OF TOOK A STEP BACK
A COUPLE HOURS AGO ON TWITTER
WHEN HE SAID THE TWEET THAT YOU
READ IN THE INTRO, IT'S AMAZING
HOW THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA BECAME
CRAZED OVER THE CHANT "SEND HER
BACK" BUT IS CALM AND ACCEPTING
OVER THE VILE STATEMENTS THEY
MADE.
HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A COMPARISON
BETWEEN THE WAY MEDIA TWEETS HIM
AND THE DEMOCRATS.
BUT SAYING THEY BECAME CRAZED
IMPLIES THAT HE DOESN'T
UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS --
>> OR EVEN MORE SO, SOME -- HE'S
LISTENING TO SOMEONE, WHICH IS
AGAIN VERY RARE, PRESIDENT TRUMP
USUALLY BEATS TO HIS OWN DRUM.
HE MUST HAVE LISTENED TO
SOMEBODY SAY THIS IS A BRIDGE
TOO FAR.
DECIDED THAT HE WAS GOING TO
WALK IT BACK.
I THINK THIS WAS A CALCULATED
MOVE.
BECAUSE I THINK IF IT WAS NOT A
STRATEGIC MOVE, HE WOULD HAVE
TWEETED IT OUT ON THE TARMAC IN
NORTH CAROLINA THAT HE DIDN'T
LIKE IT RATHER THAN WAIT ANOTHER
DAY.
>> I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU LAST
WORD, GUY.
>> WE CAN CRITICIZE WHETHER IT
TOOK HIM TOO LONG OR THE TWEET
TODAY.
THE POINT THAT HE'S MAKING ABOUT
THE MEDIA IS TRUE.
RIGHT?
THERE WAS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF
ATTENTION PAID TO CHANTING BY
SOME PEOPLE AT HIS RALLY FAR
MORE I THINK INDIGNANT AND
FURIOUS FROM THE PRESS THAN ANY
OF THIS COVERAGE --
>> BUT HE KEEPS TWEETING ABOUT
IT AND CALL IT CRAZED --
>> THE POINT IS THERE'S NOT
SIMILARLY PAID ATTENTION PAID TO