ELECTION DAY HAS COME AND GONE AND THE DAYS FOLLOWING A WINTER HAS NOW BEEN DECLARED,
BUT STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS
FOR SOME PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT
COMES NEXT. SO WHAT’S GET SOME
PERSPECTIVE ON THAT LET’S BRING
IN DOCTOR JOHN
TAYLOR UTSA.
>> POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR
THANKS FOR BEING WITH US HERE
THIS EVENING LET’S FIRST START
TALKING ABOUT THE LAWSUITS
FILED BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
THERE ARE A LOT
THERE ARE I MEAN YOU REALLY
HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP HEAD ON A
SWIVEL AT THIS POINT TO KEEP UP
WITH WHAT’S GOING ON SO HOW
SHOULD PEOPLE BE
READING THAT INFORMATION AND
TRYING TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE GO
FROM HERE.
>> WELL FIRST OF ALL WE DO SEE
LAWSUITS ALMOST EVERY ELECTION
CYCLE THE STATE WE SAW 2000
OFFICERS BETWEEN BUSH AND GORE.
WE SAW SOME
2004 BETWEEN BUSH AND KERRY,
THERE IS A LAWSUIT IN 2012
2016, THIS IS I DON’T LIKE TO
SING NORMAL, BUT THIS IS
TYPICAL WHAT HAPPENS.
THE IN GAME OF THE CAMPAIGN AND
THE PARTICULAR THE HIGHLY
CONTENTIOUS ELECTION.
>> HOW DOES THIS IMPACT
THE TRANSITION STAGE HERE AS
THIS CONTINUES TO PLAY OUT.
OBVIOUSLY WE SAW IN 2000.
IT WENT TOLD DECEMBER BEFORE IS
REALLY DECIDED HOW DOES THAT
IMPACT THE TRANSITION THAT
NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
>> WELL, THIS IS A REAL
DIFFICULT TASK BECAUSE
RIGHT NOW THE HEAD OF THE
GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
IS REFUSING TO RELEASE THE
MONEYS FOR THE BIDEN
TRANSITION TEAM. UNDER THE
PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION ACT OF
96 TO 3.
PRE-ELECTION VICE PRESIDENT
LEFT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING
MONEYS RESOURCES AND PERSONNEL
TO BEGIN THAT 70 PLUS OF A
TRANSITION THAT’S NOT SOMETHING
THAT’S VERY EASY OR SIMPLE
AND GIVEN WHERE WE ARE NOW
COVID-19 WITH AN ECONOMY WITH A
DANGEROUS WORLD. IT’S IMPORTANT
TO GET THAT TRANSITION GOING.
AND WE’VE TALKED ABOUT
2000 BUSH VERSUS GORE THERE’S
BEEN A LOT OF COMPARISON TO
WHERE WE ARE NOW TO THAT
ELECTION.
>> IS THIS DIFFERENT IF SO WHAT
MAKES IT SO DIFFERENT.
>> IT’S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT
BECAUSE WELL FIRST OF ALL TRUMP
ON WHEC SEPARATE CERTAINLY
DIFFERENT IN THAT REGARD.
IT’S DIFFERENT BECAUSE
THE CONTENTIOUS CONTEST
JUSTICES OVER COAL IS STILL AN
ELECTION OVER VOTER FRAUD,
ESPECIALLY IN FOR 5 STATES
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE
SAW FLORIDA 2000.
IF THERE’S AN ANALOGY
HISTORICAL ANALOGIES MORE MORE
AKIN TO WHAT HAPPENED
IN THE ELECTION OF 1876 BETWEEN
SENDING TILDEN AND RUTHERFORD B
HAYES OR
3 STATES. IT WAS SO CONTENTIOUS
WITH 3 STATES IN THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE CONGRESS HAD TO HAVE AN
ELECTORAL COMMISSION OF TOOK ON
THE FIGURE IT ALL OUT.
>> THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID SO
FAR THAT HE HAS NO PLANS TO GO
TO THE INAUGURATION OF JOE
BIDEN IF THAT IN FACT IS WHAT
HAPPENS HAVE WE SEEN THAT
HAPPEN BEFORE.
>> YES, WE HAVE ACTUALLY 5
TIMES IN OUR HISTORY, JOHN
ADAMS REFUSED TO GO TO THOMAS
JEFFERSON’S INAUGURATION.
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS REFUSED TO GO
TO AND JAX’S INAUGURATION.
PROBABLY ONE IS PROBABLY THE
MOST CONTENTIOUS, ANDREW
JOHNSON WHO WAS NOT RUNNING FOR
REELECTION, OBVIOUSLY, BUT
HE REFUSED SO NASTY BETWEEN
ANDREW JACKSON AND ULYSSES
GRANT. WHICH ARE WILSON DIDN’T
ATTEND THE INAUGURATION PER SE
HE ACTUALLY ATTENDED HERBERT
HOOVER’S TO SEE. WARREN G
HARDING’S IT UP AT LEAST
ACCORDING TO THE U.S. CAPITOL
BUT DIDN’T ATTEND THE
INAUGURATION BECAUSE BE TOO
COLD FOR.
YOU HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE
WHEN IT COMES TO AMERICAN
POLITICS AND I THINK THAT WE
CAN LEARN.
>> A LOT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF
WHERE WE HAVE COMMON WHAT GOT
US TO TODAY AND WE’RE CERTAINLY
WATCHING HISTORY BEING WRITTEN
AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN
GLEAN FROM WHAT’S HAPPENED IN
THE PAST ASKED TO GIVE US A
PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT WE’RE
WATCHING PLAY OUT
RIGHT NOW.
>> WELL PEOPLE PEOPLE NEED TO
CALM DOWN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
IF THEY COULD DO THAT THIS IS
POLITICS IS THE WAY THE
ELECTORAL PROCESS WORKS.
IT MAY BE MESSY PEOPLE MAY NOT
LIKE HOW TEAMS TO TAKE SO MUCH
TIME. THAT’S THE WAY THE
MECHANISM IS SET UP THIS IS WHY
THE CONSTITUTION
SINCE THE ELECTION IN EARLY
NOVEMBER, WHEN THE ELECTORS
MEET IN DECEMBER
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT ROUGHLY 2
TO 3 TO
FOUR-WEEK PERIOD TO COUNT THE
ACTUAL VOTES TO MAKE SURE
THINGS ARE CERTIFIED.
THEN ON DECEMBER 14TH THE
ELECTORS ACTUALLY MEET TO
ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY PLACE JOE
BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS IS
PRESENT BY SPREAD LIKE THE
UNITED STATES. THEN CONGRESS
MEETS IN JANUARY TO ACTUALLY
READ OUT THE BALLOTS THING AND
DEAL WITH ANY CHALLENGES THAT
MIGHT COME FROM THE STATES AND
ON JANUARY 20TH, JOE BIDEN AND
KAMALA HARRIS OR NOT.
I’M CURIOUS AS A PROFESSOR
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A
LOT OF.
>> YOUNG MINDS LOOKING UP TO
YOU FOR GUIDANCE HERE LIVE,
MAYBE I CAN FOR YOU.
WHAT ARE THEY WHAT ARE THEIR
QUESTIONS AND WHAT ARE YOUR
ANSWERS FOR THEM ABOUT HOW TO
READ ALL OF THIS HOW TO
YOU KNOW JUST LOOK AT THIS AND
SEE HISTORY AS IT UNFOLDS.
NOW THEY’RE ASKING QUESTIONS
ABOUT WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WHY
SEEM TO BE SO CRAZY.
>> WHY IS IT SO CONTENTIOUS AND
I REMINDED HIM I SAID
OK, I’M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER
AS A KID THE 1960 1968 AND
THAT CONTENTIOUSNESS TO
REMEMBER 1976.
THE FACT THAT ELECTION WENT ON
TILL 3 34 O’CLOCK IN THE
MORNING FOR JIMMY CARTER
WAS ELECTED. YOU KNOW THE
BETWEEN BILL CLINTON AND GEORGE
HERBERT WALKER BUSH AND ROSS
PEROT
IN 92. THIS IS THE THE THE THE
GREAT TAPESTRY THAT IS AMERICAN
POLITICS AND THE ELECTORAL
PROCESS. IT’S TOUGH I MADE A
JOKE THE OTHER DAY THAT
THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS ARE
POLITICAL SCIENCES HIGH HOLY
DAY AND IS IN SOME RESPECTS IT
IS BECAUSE IT’S FUN, IT’S
CRAZY, IT’S EXCITING AND I’VE
GOTTEN E-MAILS FROM FROM
FACULTY AND FROM FROM MEDIA
AROUND THE WORLD ASKING ABOUT
WHAT’S GOING ON YOU KNOW HOW
HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THESE THINGS
WELL, YOU KNOW WE DON’T EXPLAIN
IT ALL. THAT’S
PART OF POLITICS IN THE FACT
THAT 2 YEARS FROM NOW
THESE TO RADICALLY CHANGE AGAIN
4 YEARS FROM NOW YOU CAN SEE A
REPUBLICAN WIN AGAIN THAT’S A
GET GREAT THING ABOUT AMERICAN
POLITICS LOT OF BOOKS TO BE
WRITTEN FOR SURE, YEAH, YEAH
WE’RE ALL POLITICAL SCIENCE
STUDENTS AT
SOME DEGREE. DAWN
TAYLOR UTSA POLITICAL SCIENCE