red states like mississippi have laws that are referred to as fetal harm laws
and what they do is they go after women who give birth to a stillborn through
have miscarriages
and investigate that woman's pass to see if there was ever any wrongdoing or drug
use
and then I'll go ahead and prosecute that woman because they will immediately
connect the drug use
to the woman who miscarried that baby well reagan's as one example a bad she
gave birth to a stillborn prematurely back in 2006
and they immediately did a test on the baby to see if there were any drugs in
the baby system
and what they found was the autopsy tests had turned up traces of cocaine by
product
in semillas blood that was the name with the baby and
pain who is the medical examiner in mississippi declare her death a homicide
caused by cocaine toxicity now
back seems like a really really big problem right so should a woman be
prosecuted if she was using drugs while she was pregnant
now that is an interesting question that will dress in a second but if you look
deeper into the case the rainy Gibbs
you realize that there were some serious inconsistencies in the way that they've
prosecutor
now right now in judge is going to decide whether or not they're going to
move forward with her case
but keep in mind this happen in 2006 and it keeps going
now up by smoking crack during her pregnancy
the indictment said Gibbs had unlawfully willingly and follow me isley cause the
death of her baby
the maximum sentence life in prison
so where they said that she had a depraved heart
the and that's why it's considered murder now see
go when it's crack it's also much more nefarious than cocaine which is the same
thing basically but possibly intensified so
right now you might think okay welcome to South
so irresponsible a to do cocaine
whatever else you might have done during the primacy I
of course agree with you we all agree with you dole do cocaine when you're
pregnant
now whether you should prosecutor is a different story
yes because think about the president that it sets
now I'm against it precedent or not but when you start
prosecuting people for still warns
or miscarriages that is a very slippery slope that is incredibly dangerous
so their number of activity is that women are barred from when they're
pregnant so you're not supposed to consume caffeine you're not supposed to
eat sushi even though pregnant women in japan and sushi all the time
you're not supposed to drink alcohol obviously I
and you know E there are certain things that you can't dye your hair that
supposed to be harmful to the fetus
but so any time a woman has a miscarriage or stillbirth warn
are prosecutors immediately gonna come a in and start looking into her background
and and watching her under a microscope to see whether or not
any her behavior is worth prosecuting her for and that's a really scary world
to live in
but again going back to reading kids the way in that this medical examiner
did things is very very suspicious so his name is Steven Hayne
abuse the medical examiner in mississippi for decades is no longer
working as the medical examiner
and here's some information about his past at least four murder convictions
based on Haynes evidence one involving an innocent man sentenced to death for
killing
a three-year-old girl have been overturn since 2007
so some other the evidence has been faulty arm when it comes to autopsies
performed by him
as many as 1800 year are done by him
but the National Association of Medical Examiners recommends that a single
doctor conduct no more than 250
so he's turning these out and obviously that
huge issue so on them there was a guy on death row based on it
turnout was wrong your accent is the death based on
that wrong autopsy so here's another big issue he immediately test the baby he
immediately tested
the mother and said out definitely the cocaine use that's what led to
her the her being stillborn well pain
they say did not order tests to rule out infection
or fetal abnormality to common causes of stillbirth
so he immediately jumped to always the drugs and you would think a you know
what if you're smoking crack cocaine
then obviously your baby's gonna have problems but there's actually
no scientific consensus on that at the moment and I didn't know that
I looked into and I was pretty surprised %uh there was one researcher
who said the following there's no consistent association between cocaine
use during pregnancy
and serious fetal harm birth defects or serious long-term physical or
developmental impairments
look the you know I don't think that cocaine makes a kid
headed explode necessarily it just because you hear cocaine or crack it's
not like okay that's obviously would kill the Kenya
you have to actually look into it that might seriously damaged a good yes
I don't recommend it right so but if you're the doctor who's doing autopsy
you might wanna check out all the possibilities especially if you've gone
things
unbelievably wrong in the past but apparently not the case here
so now viewer thing you you know said to see her life
you might want to think about it that again given the new evidence
right absolutely and again it just goes back to you the president that you
mentioned
right now there are states like Indiana for instance that have similar laws on
the books
there is a woman who was severely depressed
I tried to commit suicide while she was pregnant and then
%uh spent a year in prison because you know
she miscarried the baby I'm she drank poison
and n that's like an example love where
we're doing our own citizens wrong because she obviously needs
mental health care she's depressed she wasn't in the right state of mind
during her in prison is not handling the situation appropriately
dealing with people who are addicted to drugs this way is not handling
the situation appropriately ok it now let's get to what they're eventually
going to do its
are super obvious anytime you miss cares again I said at the beginning
and lightweight why did you do the miscarriage let's look into it
now I would someone I know that actually I'll be honest with you went skiing
well while she was pregnant as a in my idea was a bad idea
she wanna miscarry and we all felt terrible about that
you do put her in prison that is a bad idea right now
and so that said okay off to prison you go okay have a review tripped and fell
down
a a flight of stairs well you were negligent we knew near those stairs
okay off to go to jail imagine how traumatic
miscarriages or having a.m. still
born kid and then immediately the police come in and start questioning you
what do you do during the pregnancy and you might go to jail
that's insanity we can't have that
are you really in favor that if your so called pro-life woman
you really want them to investigate every single thing you ever did a
pregnancy
if God forbid something ever went wrong to haul your ass in porn investigation
you know you can't walk that that's a bad man by the way if you're going to
make the argument that you know what
I'm pro-life and yes I do want that
keep in mind that in cases like this with ready kids
the medical examiner did not do a thorough investigation there was
evidence indicating
that she had blood clots at the time the blood clots could have led to her
I you know I led to her but having a
restricted flow oxygen to the fetus which would
maker stillborn situation occur right inevitably they all didn't even look
into that they may have the evidence but
you think they nominated him you guilty Ballack is dead sorry no I don't know
okay let's figure out how you killed it that's and that's exactly how this
investigation went
and this case will give she was a 16-year-old a black teen
so perhaps she didn't have a lot of presumptions on her side
up bud when the they came for her you didn't helper
Jojo when they come for you what do you say if you think they won't
you're not paying attention you're crazy this is the
one of the most dangerous precedence I've seen in a long long time
and one final thing its it's a loophole to all those person heard
bills that have been passed personal bills are passing so we're gonna do
these fetal harm bills
or laws they've already passed laws that way you grant a fetus the same
constitutional rights as a human being
you can try someone for murder if they miss carey
and by the way republicans how about you give a damn about them
after they're born curso before they were born here although there is all my
god oh my god it's a light afterwards out bootstraps
but I get up a welfare to bombs and as Rush Limbaugh said
well if you're hungry kid why don't you go dive in a dumpster
that's literally what he said all but when you're on the wall Modano
we care so much many you rather warm we don't give a damn about you
pro-life my ass