when are we justified to use a firearm
to defend ourselves against an animal
today we're going to talk about it
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hi everyone welcome to today's lesson
here at active cell protection i'm your
host john korea it comes to us from the
city of santa fe in argentina palm
pepper spray has recently reformulated
for even more effect when you bless the
deserving with the hot sauce palm is
what i use between a harsh word and a
gun and encourage everyone to do
likewise we have several incidents here
in this first one you see these dogs
that are just in this neighborhood and
are being let out the black dog
according to the news story is what they
call you know pit bull is a bull terrier
dog you see him guy tries to come out of
his door and the dog's barking at him
being aggressive kept him from coming
out of the the house that guy's actually
a retired police officer and he's got
surveillance video here of his son being
chased by that same dog the next week
apparently he had made a complaint to
you know the local municipality but this
guy who owns the dog you can see on
screen here did nothing about it even
though they contacted him and said hey
man you got to control your dog the guy
doesn't so now on our last one here our
guy who was not able to come out of his
house is trying to put some stuff out
there and now watch the dog come up to
him and as he does that dog starts to
creep on him so he actually draws his
firearm and when the dog chases he
actually shoots in the dirt there he
shoots in the planter box according to
the new story i've linked in the
description he purposely shot there so
then they got dog's owners like oh what
what do you want to shoot me to and the
guy said man no i don't get the heck out
of here whatever
now where he is he actually the firearm
owner has been charged here he's been
relieved of his firearm and charged for
reckless discharge of a firearm when he
says he was firing in self-defense we've
got several lessons to think about in
that vein today
important lessons for us to think about
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out thanks so much now i know as we get
started here people are going to go wait
a minute this is just kind of loose dogs
or whatever but again i think we start
to see a pattern here of this dog trying
to get aggressive at people and yes he's
wagging his tail and those kinds of
things but but again you can notice here
that he is kind of keying on him and and
maybe that all by itself is no big deal
but now he's chasing his son or whatever
and that's a pretty darn big deal in
this particular case i think in this one
right here a dog kind of aggressing on
you whatever what you don't want to do
here is you don't want to pull away and
run from that dog because that that
really initiates their prey drive quite
frankly this is one of the reasons i
carry an oc spray i think this is an
absolute good spot here with a dog
getting aggressive looking like they're
going to attack you you kind of think
wait a minute this dog is going to get
aggressive here in a second
and if you pop that dog with the oc
spray almost always that works on dogs
it tends to be very effective
occasionally not but almost always and
so that can drive that dog off teach it
a lesson and not injure the dog
now of course the the jerk owner here is
something else dude control your dogs if
you have dogs and i'm a dog lover
control your dog so that this kind of
stuff doesn't happen now as far as our
defender here he's coming outside and
like putting stuff up on this sign out
in his front yard and it's the same
front yard dog was in before
and now you can see that dog creeping in
on him and he's got a history here and
once again i think i get it that he goes
wait a minute i got to be able to
protect myself against this dog
i think a better choice here that it i
don't know that he had but a better
choice if he had a choice was an oc
spray here and especially if you're at
home maybe one of the big old fogger
units would be a good choice but even if
you have a smaller you know personal
carry unit like i carry the little palm
unit all the time we talk about them on
the channel all the time
that that has about a 12 foot range
something like that you know get a
little spray on that dog at some
distance and it'll keep him off you
teach him no you are not to be trifled
with in a in a non-lethal manner in a
manner that's not going to injure the
dog and prevent all this stuff from
happening because if you discharge your
firearm it's going to invite scrutiny
and it's a much bigger deal than if you
oc spray a dog
now when he gets it out there i want to
say that that dog charges him here dog
charges him bigger than disco and so
could a reasonable person think that
this is a threat of death or great
bodily harm i think absolutely i think a
50 pound 60 pound dog that's known to be
aggressive that has you know maybe
come and charged you before is charging
at you with this kind of aggression i
think that's an objective reasonably a
deadly threat that's here in the united
states the laws where he is i don't know
about that use but i will say this the
fact of the matter is that he fires a
warning shot and that says something so
if you have an imminent threat of death
or great bodily harm quite frankly in
the u.s i think if you shoot this dog
and you get a shot in the dog and the
dog is hit and nothing else is hit
you're probably okay but instead he
fired a warning shot and said he fired a
warning shot so so here's the problem
with the warning shot from the
perspective of what did you believe in
that moment if you had time to fire a
warning shot it probably means you
didn't feel like your life was at
imminent risk like right now risk of
death or great bodily harm because you
feel like you had enough time to fire a
warning shot and still not be you know
actually injured
and so that means it's probably not time
to use a gun and and so warning shots
from that perspective can be legally
treacherous and from a practical
perspective it's done several things
number one it's it's removed capacity
from your firearm number two it's taken
time that you may not have if the dog is
truly intent on harming you so i don't
recommend warning shots though he did do
it in a place you know in the the
planter box there that's not quite as
big a deal now notice as well then he
gets him into a confrontation with the
other owner who's like oh what do you
want to shoot me now is that what you
want to do which i think that our
defender here did a good job of saying
no of course i don't want to shoot you
man that's not what i want i want you to
keep your dog at bay
listen you don't always get a time of
understanding you don't get any pick of
who your neighbors are and you may end
up having to
be you know next to a jerk neighbor
if that's the case what you absolutely
have to do is practice your verbal judo
to the best of your ability i do think
in this instance oc spray used earlier
not maybe even necessarily in the
context of immediately when he did use
the firearm but used earlier on the dog
might have taught the dog to stay away
from you and not be aggressive towards
people i also think there's a lesson
here if you're a dog owner and you have
a dog that's aggressive it is absolutely
contingent upon you it is your
responsibility to restrain your dog to
train your dog to keep your dog out of
these kinds of situations so i blame the
owner of the dog for a lot of this i
think that that that owner owns a lot of
responsibilities here i want all of us
as self-defenders to make the best
choices we can so that we don't end up
facing charges when what we were really
doing was trying to protect ourselves
and doing our best not to get into these
kinds of problems de-escalate escape
evade maybe have a tool like an oc spray
for these kinds of situations to cover
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