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nations best investigative reporters when it comes to the issues of the
election integrity annan others as well but in particular this issue is bradford
he's the founder editor the brad blog brad blog dot com is the website
and uh... guy for whom i have tremendous respect and admiration bread welcome
actor program
you're very kind compact
project leader
great to have you with us by french uh... as virginia it
might be going after
urged out first of all
even before we get into that
there is a difference between election fraud and voter fraud would you please
give that thirty seconds or so pure well imminently kubota broadridge in talking
about voters who commit fraud noteworthy boaters who
uh... made boat wise or a vote in the name of dead people and so forth
election fraud place poets and that means
about his comment
as wat
asset and people
beyond his immortal die by a lightning strikes then could voter fraud if by if
my recollection is right it's it's sunny order of like fewer than a dozen a year
billy wright it incredibly where budget even rarer after the polling places and
that is you know what these republicans trying to push for this for the people
who might be restrictions around the country right those restrictions would
only
uh... refer to
the polling place itself there is a voter fraud early more likely to be done
by people who are mailing in ballots are doing absentee ballots are gets so
election fraud election fraud as well
alike were brought into a bit broader it encompasses voter fraud voter fraud is a
form of election fraud but
uh... election fraud itself would would generally were refer to insiders
uh... who are gaming the system whether it's election administrators
uh... or the other email party officials and so forth whether stuffing the ballot
box from the inside or whether they're using a few keystrokes to change the
result of an entire election
on our now completely computerized election uh... results
tabulate is around the country ok sam spring this much graver threat
as silly and that is a much more widespread practice too and has been
spent arguably
at least since the civil war and and probably since the founding the republic
but you know with the when when african-americans are given the right to
vote the media backlash in the southwestern was to figure out ways to
disenfranchise black voters whether it was you know poll taxes or literacy
tests are simply taking a vote since runaway
uh... or physically prevented them from voting
so now the state of virginia
uh... according to your reporting
love looks like they may be going after
newt gingrich or his campaign
well indeed they are investigating the uh...
fraud that incredibly enough newt gingrich actually admitted to himself
uh... on videotape ethiopia to uh...
of value was shown on c_n_n_ he's speaking to a supporter of in iowa
a few weeks back
explaining why he could not get on
to the virginia primary ballot which requires can
thousand signatures might do that is the newts home state of virginia and he
failed to qualify
blamed the reason for failing to qualify to the supporter
he called it quote just a mistake
it said we needed eleven thousand one hundred thirty we turned in eleven
thousand one hundred signatures
we only needed ten thousand
however
fifteen hundred that fifteen hundred of them were fraudulent
turned in he said by quote just one guy
uh... the one guy
the working poor are the gingrich campaign according to newt gingrich
created fifteen hundred
fraudulent signatures in a failed attempt to get newt gingrich on the
virginia primary ballot by newt gingrich's own admission so this is
something that uh... i've talked to the virginia state board of elections uh...
they have in fact uh... confirmed that if this is true it would be an illegal
act and that they were for a bit
uh... the matter to the state uh... day cheese office can coach you know he's
office
i spoke with them and they conferred
confirms that indeed
uh... an investigation into this matter is currently underway in virginia
pastime
now it to the uh... to the larger issue of the state of our elections is just a
couple of of kind of and calibration questions bread you've follow the stuff
really closely and it's been a few years since i've had the the time to frankly
how many years in nations or fully other fully developed nations around the world
are usually try furnishings like we do
apparently
more and more
i knew that there really pushing these electronica systems particularly
one hundred-percent on verifiable type of uh... touch-screen voting systems
in some of the largest democracies uh... like india india
of venezuela and so forth
on the other hand uh... meanwhile back in europe for example in germany
uh... the high court germany looked at in said no
id those type of voting systems constitutes
secretive about camping
our constitution doesn't know why i would
so uh... those country some of those countries are most whose countries are
still voting on paper and many of them
still appropriately as we should be doing actually counting their ballots
publicly by hand uh... in front of the public so that uh... there will be very
few questions about the results
right that's what we ought to do in this country in fact that's what we did
as you recall back in the uh... iowa republican not caucuses up there
they counted all of the paper ballot by hand
infront of everyone you had this incredibly close race in the end and
there is almost nobody questioning the results
because in the end
they know that all of those ballots were counted publicly at there is any uh...
funny business with the numbers
there are hundreds if not thousands people who can step forward to say no no
i was there art of accounting here's my uh... i phone photograph of the result
that night in camping that way in public at the precinct it makes it
uh... it makes it very difficult
to gain an election yeah that's what we ought to be doing that for a lot of
european countries are still doing
and canada
canada still doing that yep historian paid a country
okay so art
and and and and finally bahu loans the electronico dean machine
uh... companies in the united states
hands
and who is
tabulate eames they not five i've i've read stories about
uh... one votes one state's boat being tabulated in another state you know one
company's uh... boat date you know i've heard that the venezuelans on some of
these machines that
you know and and which should make republicans here cr
url i mean what's what's the status of all the stuff that started with uh...
way back in the day which i think a landline
yeah well go go go into a longer leveraged you don't know what you got me
fact of the matter is
an indian companies have been blocked and sold and traded and merged
so many times uh... in you're right one of the largest company sequoia voting
systems was actually owned by a venezuelan company tried to hugo chavez
uh... that company had now been
sold off
to eight canadian firm
by the name of dominion voting
although uh... dominion and dfm asked the world largest voting machine company
actually share what had
one the end of the people elections system company
uh... you referred to yet met in truckee hegel in fact
uh... chuck hagel of nebraska senator from nebraska republican what in fact
uh... the uh... the principal owner of the epitaphs for some time
report here and person
for the senate
and milk miraculous plea for the first time in some twenty years that
uh... went to uh... a republican
after nebraska hands which all of their machines over to yesen f renton
washington post cold that the uh... upset victory of the year because struck
a call this a white republican even won the african-american districts in the
basics
exactly right now that i think that's amazing if i i i dare you to prove that
he didn't yahoo
yet one that's the problem of course is there's there's no way to prevent so
is so iraq now we have we are voting on electronic voting machines to keeping a
record and we don't know who owns the machines and and the tabulations what
about the stuff for the title a shy actually asked the former uh... what's
his name from uh... from ohio i said uh... torture votes counted in tennessee
or something so no
uh... what while they were and they worked out the problem is there's book
bhi pad relationship in and then there's the reporting system
so they they make count them in one place to terminate send them out of
state
to be put on the web and reported publicly and during that period
uh... between the kind of counted antenna actually posted anything can and
had happened to those results
uh... and that's exactly what happens in ohio could happen in florida today by
the way the voting on paper ballot but is actually even legal in the state of
florida account a paperback list by hand believer that amazed bradford info read
what they are complex threat
stuff