As so called Gaetz started trending
on twitter former Trump aides and
GOP officials started basically
dunking on Matt Gates in a private
group text and this group text was
obtained by business insider and
so of course we're
going to read you what
some of those texts had to say.
Now one former Trump aide who was
on the text chain with 18 current
and former GOP and
White House sources shared this
with business Insider and
here's what they were saying.
The former Trump aides aren't
necessarily happy to see the three
term lawmaker in trouble.
But they feel a little vindicated
a former white house staffer told
insider they feel vindicated what
is that about well for
instance one former white house
staffer said this he's the meanest
person in politics now remember
we're not talking about >> Census.
>> Leftists we're not talking about
progressives right about democratic
liberal democrats we're talking
about conservatives people who
worked in the trump white house
the very same administration that
matt gates like could not stop
himself from defending he loved
Trump was certainly a Trump
bootlicker and loyalist.
But apparently there are people
within the White House that were
not fans of Matt Gates.
Republican leadership,
one former congressional Aide road
will likely watch him completely
implode in a matter of days without
having to do a thing.
So I have more to share with
you, John.
But I wanted to get some of your
thoughts first.
>> Yeah, yeah,
I the prediction that he could
implode within a couple
of days is an interesting one.
I wonder how much we could possibly
learn during that time if
the investigation is ongoing.
Maybe, if the investigation has
been concluded then someone from
the DOJ might come out, and
make that clear,
maybe he can do a bunch more media
hits that will make him look really
bad, that's certainly possible.
In terms of him being the meanest
person in politics,
as you point out, people who work
in the Trump White House said that.
Trump, what they work for
Trump, and they think that Gates is
the meanest guy in politics?
I don't know.
Look, I think that there are a lot
of negative qualities that sort
of just scream from every word and
action that he engages in.
Mean isn't the one that I find to
be most important, or most worried.
There's some of the other
allegations about him in terms
of like, why he's in politics,
what actually wants, what he does,
his obligation to his constituents
to do work, that sort of stuff,
I feel is more important,
potentially.
Well okay,
real quick with the statement
coming from that congressional aide
about Matt gates imploding.
I don't know how true that is, but
the way that I read it was.
These are people who are looking
for Matt Gaetz to implode, right?
>> Sure. >> And
I think that that's fascinating and
I wish we knew why,
I wish we knew more details.
The accusation of meanness I
agree with you, it's not the worst
accusation especially when you
consider the Trump administration.
However, I want to know why I
wish we had more context into
why it is that they seem to have so
much disdain for him.
One former Trump White House
aide also wrote Good riddance.
It sounds like he met he let
whatever B S power he
thought he had go to his head and
he thought himself above the law.
But the first politician to
do that.
>> Yeah I know.
Look, there's definitely a lack of
self-awareness here, right,
especially when you've worked for
the Trump white house.
And Trump certainly
believed that he was above the law.
He was treated as
if he was above the law.
Until the very end, when.
>> Mhm.
>> There were some issues with what
he was encouraging people to do.
There's also some, you know,
fraud issues related to his taxes.
We'll see if that actually plays
out with robust consequences in
the end.
But yeah, there are plenty of
politicians, especially on
the right, who seem to think that
they're above the law.
So There's something else at play
and that's what I'm
really curious about.
>> I would love to know,
I really wish that I could sit down
very briefly and then never speak
to these people again.
What their issue with him is like
he said, obviously despise them.
Seems awful is a total tool but
from their point of view, Isn't
matt gates like what this whole
thing is about like don't they just
want an army of plastic faced wet
matt gates that just go on fox news
to own the libs they don't do
anything they're fine with whatever
you know proto authoritarian takes
over doing whatever they want to
the government to our democracy
like i really is the issue just
a personal thing is it a comment
that he made do they actually wish
that he was doing more work?
I would find that to be a positive
thing.
Yeah i really wish there was more
substance to the critiques than
just, yeah that guy sucks i hope he
you know goes to jail over this.
>> So, let's let's put out some
theories and
my main theory is that Despite
the fact that it looks as though
there's like this united front in
pushing the Republican Party toward
trumpism I think that internally
behind closed doors, the old guard
Absolutely hates that.
Right? I think that these staffers,
these former white house aides,
these are people who didn't want
the republican party to pivot over
to this pretty disgusting brand of
trumpism.
And Matt Gates is really a big
symbol Have that type of culture
within the GOP.
So I think that like they can't
publicly say this stuff, all right?
Because this is what the base is.
This is what the base loves and
they can't.
>> Mm-hm. >> Speak out against it.
That's honestly career suicide
for them.
But I think that.
But internally the way that they
really feel is that this new,
I hesitate to say new but this
Trumpish culture that has really
overpowered the Republican Party is
Is uncomfortable for them.
They don't necessarily agree
with it and
it could come with consequences for
the GOP eventually,
actually it did I mean with
the republicans no longer in power.
>> Yeah, it's true. >> So maybe
that's what's really feeling it.
But there could also be some
personal issue as well.
Who knows?