>>> WE JUST BROUGHT YOU THE
STORY OF THE NAME OF AN
IMMIGRANT FROM CAMEROON WHO HAS
BEEN IN THE U.S. SINCE THE AGE
OF TWO
HER LAWYER TOLD "ALL IN" TODAY
THAT WHILE SHE WAS IN DETENTION,
A DOCTOR RECOMMENDED A PROCEDURE
KNOWN AS A DNC TO TREAT
MENSTRUAL IRREGULARITIES
WHEN SHE WOKE UP, SHE SAID THE
DOCTOR ALSO REMOVED ONE OF HER
FALLOPIAN TUBES, SOMETHING SHE
DIDN’T CONSENT TO OR DIDN’T KNOW
WHAT WAS HAPPENING
THIS MORNING SHE WAS ABOUT TO BE
DEPORTED UNTIL SHE WAS REMOVED
AT THE LAST MOMENT FROM A FLIGHT
OUT OF CHICAGO
SHE WAS IN O’HARE ON THAT PLANE.
SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEPORTED IF
NOT FOR A LAST-MINUTE
INTERVENTION FROM MY NEXT GUEST.
CONGRESSWOMAN, FIRST TELL US HOW
YOU BECAME AWARE OF HER CASE.
>> VERY LATE AT NIGHT LAST
NIGHT.
MY COLLEAGUES ON THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE, IN PARTICULAR
CONGRESSMAN PAT GOT WORD OF
SOMEONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN
WIDESPREAD HYSTERECTOMIES OUT OF
A PARTICULAR CENTER.
HE WAS IN MY JURISDICTION IN
HOUSTON, NOT PRESENTLY INVOLVED.
AND I WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF
THE FACT VERY OPEN TO OUR PLEA
THAT THIS MIGHT BE A LARGE
CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION AND
WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT
PAULINE WHO HAD BEEN HERE, AS
YOU SAID, SINCE SHE WAS TWO
YEARS OLD WOULD NOT BE DEPORTED.
FRANKLY, I THINK PAPERWORK, WHO
IS PART OF THE PROBLEM OF A VERY
LARGE DEPARTMENT, HAD HER MOVING
FROM HOUSTON ALL THE WAY TO
CHICAGO.
THIS MORNING WE FOUND OUT THAT
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A
TEMPORARY PAUSE ON HER
DEPORTATION HAD ACTUALLY NOT
BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND SHE WAS ON
THE WAY TO BEING DEPORTED BY A
COMMERCIAL FLIGHT.
I AM VERY GLAD THAT I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THESE
IN THE HOUSTON HARRIS COUNTY
REGION TO BE ABLE TO SAY PAULINE
IS INNOCENT.
PAULINE IS POTENTIALLY INVOLVED
BECAUSE OF THE COURAGEOUSNESS OF
DON WOOTEN IN A MAJOR
INVESTIGATION ABOUT HEALTH CARE
IN OUR DETENTION CENTER.
BESIDES THE FACT THAT PAULINE
HAD CHILDREN HERE, THAT WORKED
HERE, HAD CONTRIBUTED HERE,
THERE SEEMED TO BE NO REASON FOR
HER TO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE
PROCESS OF A STAY, WHICH HAS NOT
YET BEEN ORDERED
BUT I AM GRATEFUL THAT MY
ARGUMENT THAT THIS WAS SO
IMPORTANT, THIS WAS SO LARGE
THAT PAULINE NEEDED TO BE
REMOVED FROM THAT PLANE.
>> I KNOW CONGRESSWOMAN PAUL WHO
HAS BEEN TWEETING ABOUT THIS AND
HAS BEEN ON THIS SINCE THESE
REPORTS HAVE COME OUT, PAULINE
IS NOW IN THE U.S.
SHE’S IN A DETENTION FACILITY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE
FACILITY IN QUESTION IN GEORGIA
ACTUALLY A HUGE MAJORITY OF THE
FOLKS DON’T HAVE REPRESENTATION
AND END UP DEPORTED.
IT SEEMS POSSIBLE THAT IF THERE
IS ANY MALFEASANCE THERE AND
AGAIN THIS HAS NOT BEEN
ESTABLISHED AND THE DOCTOR
DENIES IT THAT THERE WOULD BE
PEOPLE SUBJECT TO THAT SPREAD
ACROSS THE WORLD.
>> YOU’RE RIGHT, CHRIS
BUT THE PROBLEM IS OF COURSE IN
OUR LAW AND IN THE MIND SET OF
THIS ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS
DEPORTATION
DEPORTATION, DEPORTATION,
SEPARATION OF FAMILIES FROM
CHILDREN, WE MADE A LARGE STEP
IN MAKING A STATEMENT THAT WE’RE
CALLING ON A CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATION, 170 MEMBERS PLUS
SIGNED A LETTER TO ASK FOR THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR THIS
INVESTIGATION.
IT WAS TRAGIC SOME OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE BEEN
ALREADY REPORTED
THE IG HAS TO FIND THEM AND IN
ESSENCE FIND A WAY TO ENSURE
THAT THEIR TESTIMONY, THEIR
INFORMATION IS GARNERED FORTHI
INVESTIGATION.
BEING ASSIGNED TO A DETENTION
CENTER, BEING GIVEN A
DEPORTATION ORDER, IS A CIVIL
ACT.
IT SHOULD NOT ASSIGN YOU TO
HARM
AND IF THESE WOMEN WERE HARMED
AND ONLY WE AS WOMEN AND MANY
MEN, MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
FOR SIGNING THIS LETTER, WOMEN
CAN UNDERSTAND HOW INVASIVE, HOW
VIOLATED HYSTERECTOMIESS ARE
IT FEELS LIKE YOUR PERSON HOOD,
YOUR WORTH AS A WOMAN IN MANY
INSTANCES IF IT IS NOT
VOLUNTARY, IF YOU HAVE NOT
CONSULTED WITH YOUR PHYSICIAN,
IF YOU HAVE NOT CONSULTED WITH
YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND IF YOU
HAVE NOT DETERMINED THAT YOU
ALREADY ARE NOT OF CHILDBEARING
STATUS
SO IT HIT ME IN MY HEART, IN MY
GUT.
AND I COULDN’T IMAGINE PAULINE
ALONE HAVING HAD THIS SURGERY,
HAVING HAD THE ABILITY TO
EXPLAIN TO US IN AN IG
INVESTIGATION AND TO CONGRESS
BECAUSE I HAVE CALLED ON
CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS AS
WELL TO OVERLAP THE IG
I COULDN’T IMAGINE HER
DEPARTING.
I AM GLAD THAT THE TEAM IN
HOUSTON WERE WILLING TO LISTEN
TO BOTH MY PLEA AND EXPLANATION
OF THIS MAJOR INVESTIGATION THAT
I BELIEVE IS GOING TO PROCEED IN
THE VIRTUAL OR EVEN AS SPEAKER
OF THE HOUSE HAS INDICATED THAT
WE NEED TO FIND OUT HOW MEDICAL
CARE IS RENDERED
THESE ARE FOR PROFIT, PRIVATE
CONTROLLED DETENTION CENTERS,
WHICH I HAVE NEVER REALLY FELT
WAS THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT
SHOULD GO.
NOW, I HAVE SEEN THE NEED FOR
DOCTORS, CHRIS
WE WENT TO THE BORDER AND WE
WERE CRYING OUT FOR MEDICAL CARE
AND WE WERE DOING SO BECAUSE
CHILDREN DIED AND WE HAD
GOVERNMENT DOCTORS COME TO BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE HELP THERE
BUT IF WE’RE HAVING PRIVATE
DETENTION CENTERS WHO ARE
SECURING MEDICAL HELP, ARE THEY
MAKING DETERMINATIONS ABOUT THIS
HEALTH CARE OF AN INDIVIDUAL
WOMAN OR MANY WOMEN?
AND WHO GIVES PERMISSION
AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE
WOMEN ARE UNDER SEDATION
IT IS A CALLING.
WE HAVE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
IT
I’M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET
PAULINE FROM THAT PLANE, AND WE
DID IT THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT
WE WERE ABLE TO DO SO.
AND WE HOPE A FAIR PROCESS WILL
BE RENDERED BY BOTH WASHINGTON
AND LOCALLY FOR PAULINE TO BE
ABLE TO GIVE HER STORY IN THIS
INVESTIGATION.
>> CONGRESSWOMAN SHEILA JACKSON
LEE IN TEXAS
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TALKING TO
ME TONIGHT
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT HER
LAWYER SAYS WE ARE AWARE OF THE
WHISTLEBLOWER’S ALLEGATIONS AND
VEHEMENTLY DENY HIM.
HE IS A HIGHLY RESPECTED
PHYSICIAN.
IMPORTANTLY, ACCORDING TO "THE
WASHINGTON POST," ONE OF THE
WHISTLEBLOWER’S ATTORNEYS
EXPRESSED THAT SHE DID NOT SPEAK
TO ANY OF THE WOMEN DIRECTLY
AND THAT I SAID "ALL IN" TODAY
IN A STATEMENT, TO BE CLEAR,
MEDICAL CARE DECISIONS
CONCERNING DETAINEES ARE MADE BY
MEDICAL PERSONNEL, NOT BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.
DETAINEES ARE ACCORDED MEDICAL