>>THE NUNES MEMO HAS BEEN RELEASED AND IT HAS MADE ONE
THING CLEAR, WE HAVE BEEN WASTING A LOT OF TIME IN THIS
COUNTRY ON ABSOLUTE B.S., AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO, BUT HOPEFULLY
NOT FOR THAT MUCH LONGER.
WE'VE BEEN PUT IN A DIFFICULT POSITION
WHERE THE GOP AND DONALD TRUMP HAVE DECIDED TO SHRED LAW AND
ORDER AND SET FIRE TO THE FBI TO ABSOLVE HIM OF ANY LEGAL
RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE THINGS HE AND HIS CAMPAIGN HAVE DONE, AND
BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THAT WE ARE FORCED TO RESPOND.
THERE
MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE SPIN ON THE INTRODUCTION, FEEL FREE TO
DISAGREE BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
>>THAT WAS PRETTY UNBIASED.
>>I WOULD UNDERLINE THAT INTRODUCTION, I THINK THAT'S
RIGHT, BUT PLEASE PROCEED.
>>THE MEMO IS OUT, HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE READ IT, I IMAGINE MOST
PEOPLE HAVE, PROBABLY NOT DONALD TRUMP, BUT HE CLAIMS HE HAS.
WE
WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CORE CLAIMS OF THIS MEMO, THINGS THAT
ARE SUPPOSEDLY SUCH BOMBSHELLS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN IT.
THE
FIRST ONE IS THAT THIS MEMO DESCRIBES ITSELF AS DESCRIBING A
TROUBLING BREAKDOWN OF LEGAL PROCESSES, SPECIFICALLY IT SAYS
--
>>THE OVERALL PROBLEM WITH THAT INTRODUCTION IS THAT THE MEMO
DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO THAT, IT BARELY EVEN ATTEMPTS TO.
WHAT IT
DOES DO IS DESCRIBE WHAT THEY SEE AS THINGS THAT WERE LEFT OUT
OF THE APPLICATIONS TO THE FISA COURT FOR SURVEILLANCE OF
CARTER PAGE, WHO IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE IN
THIS ENTIRE MESS, ALL OF WHICH IS SUSPICIOUS.
SO WE KNOW THAT
THE FBI BEGAN SURVEILLANCE ON CARTER PAGE, THEY CONTINUALLY
RE-UPPED IT BECAUSE OF HIS SUSPICIOUS CONTACT WITH RUSSIAN
INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND NOW WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ACCURATELY DESCRIBE
THAT THE DOSSIER, WHICH THE MEMO SAYS IS WHY THEY ARE SURVEILLING
HIM BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT'S WHY, THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE CLEAR
ALL OF THE VARIOUS PEOPLE WHO FUNDED IT ALONG THE WAY, AND
BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT WHOLE THING IS SUSPECT AND SOMETHING
SOMETHING ROBERT MUELLER AS WELL.
>>THIS FEELS JUST LIKE A REDDIT BLOG POST, THAT'S THE WAY THE
MEMO IS.
MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE -- IT'S
NOT A MEMO, IT'S A PRESS RELEASE FROM REPUBLICANS UNILATERALLY ON
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SAYING, ANTI-TRUMP!
ANTI-TRUMP!
AND THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO THIS BUT THE WORDS ANTI-TRUMP
WHICH APPEAR IN THIS MEMO I FOUND TO BE CHILLING, BECAUSE
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU EXPECT FROM AN INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE,
TO CALL SOMETHING ANTI-TRUMP.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
BY SAYING
SOMETHING IS ANTI-TRUMP YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY POLITICIZING AND
MAKING IT PARTISAN RATHER THAN EXPLAINING --
>>WHY IT'S INACCURATE.
>>EXACTLY.
THE OTHER THING IS, CARTER PAGE WAS BEING
INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI BEFORE HE JOINED THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,
THIS IS SOMETHING THEY KIND OF ALLUDE TO BUT THEY DON'T REALLY
SO THEY SORT OF REVEAL THAT HE WAS ALREADY UNDER SURVEILLANCE.
SO I GUESS THOSE THINGS ARE THE ONES THAT STOOD OUT TO ME.
>>YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT THE ANTI-TRUMP THING REALLY
REVEALING WHAT THIS IS, WHICH IS IT'S PROPAGANDA, AND DEVIN NUNES
IS A LACKEY FOR TRUMP AND THE FACT THAT HE'S ON THIS COMMITTEE
IS ON MOST OF FOOTNOTE BECAUSE HE WILL CRANK OUT PROPAGANDA
THAT'S FAVORABLE TO THE PRESIDENT AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
DOCUMENT IS.
IT LEFT OUT A LOT OF STUFF WE KNOW, AND THE FISA
FILING THEY HAVE TO MAKE IS SO THICK, WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY DON'T
KNOW, BUT WE CERTAINLY KNOW THAT CARTER PAGE HAD A RELATIONSHIP
THERE THAT RAISED CONCERNS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT BEFORE THIS
WHOLE THING.
BUT THEY MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A POLITICAL HIT, WHEN
THE REALITY IS THIS MEMO IS AN ATTEMPT AT A POLITICAL HIT.
WERE
THIS ANY OBJECTIVE PROCESS YOU WOULD THINK, OKAY, THIS HAS A
CHANCE OF BEING SEEN AS A BIG DUD, AS A BIG NOTHINGBURGER.
BUT
MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS SERVES THE PURPOSE THEY WANT, WHICH IS IT
GIVES THEM A PIECE OF PAPER WHICH NOW JUSTIFIES TRUMP FIRING
ROSENSTEIN, AND THAT'S -- IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BLANK
PIECE OF PAPER, TRUMP JUST WANTS AN EXCUSE TO FIRE ROSENSTEIN.
>>AND SO ROSENSTEIN OVERSEES THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, IT
SORT OF LAYS UP THE DOMINO PIECES TO EVENTUALLY GET RID OF
MUELLER, OR COMPLETELY LIMIT HIS CAPACITY TO DO THE
INVESTIGATION.
>>I WILL JUMP BACK INTO THE CORE CLAIMS IN A SECOND BUT YOU
MENTIONED SOMETHING, ONE OF THE I THINK IRONIC, SAD CONSEQUENCES
OF THIS ONCE WE GET OVER THE INITIAL FERVOR OF THE MEMO IS
THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF JUSTIFIABLE, LEGITIMATE, AND
NECESSARY CRITICISMS OF THE FISA COURT, OF THE FBI, BUT THIS HAS
BEEN HYPED FOR WEEKS NOW AS THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DOJ,
THEN IT TURNS OUT TO BE BULLSHIT, WHEN YOU HAVE
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE ORGANIZATIONS YOU ALSO WILL
LOOK LIKE A CRAZY PERSON BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DEMONIZED
FOR OVER A YEAR BY THE WHITE HOUSE AND RIGHT-WING MEDIA.
>>THIS IS WHAT GETS ME ABOUT THIS.
THAT SUDDENLY THE PARTY OF
LET'S INVADE TWO COUNTRIES, LET'S WIRETAP AMERICANS WITHOUT
A WARRANT, IS NOW THE PARTY OF BEING AGAINST THE DEEP STATE.
LIKE NOW WE ARE ANTIESTABLISHMENT.
BULLSHIT, YOU
GUYS AREN'T ANTIESTABLISHMENT.
SO THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN THE
DEEP STATE IS HAVING THE DEEP STATE COMPLETELY POLITICIZED AND
A PARTISAN WAY TO SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO HAS CLEARLY DONE
SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
AND I'M NOT SAYING IT HASN'T BEEN
POLITICIZED AND THE DEEP STATE ISN'T WORKING AGAINST AN
SURVEILLING AMERICANS, OR HAVE SURVEILLED PEOPLE FROM MARTIN
LUTHER KING, JR.
TO GRANDMOTHERS TESTING THE WAR IN IRAQ, BUT
EVEN I COME A TOTAL BLEEDING HEART RADICAL, I'M JUST LIKE,
GOD, THE PILLARS OF DEMOCRACY.
BUT WAIT.
>>YOU
ARE RIGHT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE FBI HAS A CLEAN RECORD HISTORICALLY.
>>OR EVEN RECENTLY.
LESS PERHAPS THE FBI THAN SOME OTHER INTELLIGENCE
ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THAT'S A CONCERN.
>>BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR POLITICAL HIT JOBS BEING PUT
OUT, IT JUST DOESN'T PASS THE SMELL TEST.
AND THEY USE THE
WORD TRANSPARENT, IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY WE
WANTED TO RELEASE IT -- BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY WE
SUPPRESSED THE DEMOCRAT RESPONSE.
LOOK, THIS IS SCARY
BECAUSE IT TAKES A HIGHLY PARTISAN WASHINGTON, AND IT WILL
ALLOW THEM, BECAUSE THE GOP IS IN CONTROL OF THE ENTIRE CITY,
LEGISLATIVELY AND BEYOND, IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND THE COURTS,
IT WILL ALLOW THEM TO, I THINK ON A GRAND SCALE, SET UP AN
AUTHORITARIAN POSITION FOR THE PRESIDENT, AND THAT'S REALLY
WHAT HE WANTS.
I KNOW THAT SEEMS -- COME ON, YOU ARE
EXAGGERATING, BUT I DON'T SEE BLOWBACK ON THIS OR WHERE
THERE IS GOING TO BE ANY.
>>I BEEN TELLING PEOPLE FOR OVER A YEAR, SOME PEOPLE FOR VARIOUS
REASONS HAVEN'T BEEN INTERESTED IN THIS INVESTIGATION AND I'VE
TRIED TO APPEAL TO THEM TO SAY YES, TRUMP AND HIS REPUBLICAN
BACKERS WOULD LOVE TO ABSOLVE HIM IN THIS INVESTIGATION, BUT
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS DESTROY THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY
INVESTIGATION INTO ANY ILLEGALITY.
THAT WILL OPEN THE
PATH FOR ANY FORM OF CORRUPTION THEY WANT AND MAKE IT SO THERE
WON'T BE ANY EFFECTIVE INVESTIGATIONS.
TO RETURN TO THE
COURT CLAIMS, THE ONE EXAMPLE THEY GIVE IS THIS CARTER PAGE
THING, THE IDEA THAT THE FISA APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL, THIS IS
A GUY THEY'VE BEEN INVESTIGATING FOR YEARS, SINCE 2013, THAT'S
THE GUY THEY ARE STAKING THEIR REPUTATION ON, WAS FRAUDULENT.
BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THEY DIDN'T SHOW THAT IN THE MEMO EITHER.
THEY SAY THAT DETAILS ABOUT THE DOSSIER WORK PROVIDED BUT THEY
CAN'T ACTUALLY SHOW IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT
INFORMATION, WE HAVE TO SIMPLY TRUST THAT NUNES OR HIS STAFF --
>>YOU DON'T TRUST DEVIN NUNES?
AFTER THAT UBER RIDE TO THE WHITE HOUSE LAST YEAR?
>>GRANTED, HE HAD INSIDER INFORMATION SINCE IT SEEMS
THIS WAS WRITTEN WITH THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT EVEN SO I'M NOT
SURE WE CAN TRUST HIM.
>>BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS WRITTEN BY THE WHITE HOUSE,
WASN'T HE INTERVIEWED, BEFORE THE MEETING TO RELEASE THIS MEMO
HE WAS ASKED WHETHER THE MEMO WAS WRITTEN IN DISCUSSION WITH
THE WHITE HOUSE OR WAS ANYONE DISCUSSING IT AND HE SHUT THAT
CONVERSATION DOWN.
SO HE REALLY DIDN'T ANSWER YES OR NO, HE
MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY SITTING THERE DRAFTING IT
AND REPUBLICANS ON THE COMMITTEE DRAFTING IT WITH THE WHITE
HOUSE.
>>BY THE WAY JUST ON THIS POINT, WHEN ASKED IF TRUMP WAS GOING TO
RELEASE THE MEMO, HE HADN'T SEEN IT, AND AS JOHN SAYS THERE IS
ALL THIS STUFF, THIS AURA BUILT UP AROUND THIS MEMO, THAT WAS
DESIGNED TO GAIN MEDIA ATTENTION.
LOOK, IT'S DOMINATED
THE MEDIA CULTURE FOR THE LAST WEEK, THE MEMO, THE MEMO, EVEN
AS TRUMP ENTERED FOR THE STATE OF THE UNION HE WAS ASKED ARE
YOU GOING TO RELEASE THE MEMO, BUT HE INDICATED HE WOULD, HE
SAID 100%.
HE HAD NOT READ IT YET.
BUT THE FIX IS SO IN, IT'S
SO NAKEDLY IN, THAT IT'S NAUSEATING.
>>ANOTHER CORE CLAIM OF THIS, BOTH OF THE MEMO AND ESPECIALLY
THE RIGHT WING SPIN ABOUT THE MEMO, IS THAT THE INVESTIGATION,
ALL OF THIS STUFF, HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE DOSSIER.
THEY THINK
THAT EVEN THOUGH MUCH OF WHAT IS IN THE DOSSIER HASN'T BEEN
DISPROVEN, A LOT OF IT TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE, IF THEY CAN LINK
IT TO THE DOSSIER THAN THE ENTIRE THING IS A LEGITIMATE.
BUT THAT IS UNDERCUT NOT JUST BY REALITY BUT BY THE MEMO ITSELF,
BECAUSE ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE MEMO IT SAYS --
>>OBVIOUSLY THEY JUST SAY IT'S PETER STRZOK, IT'S THE FBI
SO THEY WANT TO LINK IT TO HIM.
>>THAT'S INSIDIOUS TO NAME FBI OFFICIALS BY NAME.
>>AND WE KNOW THEY HAD BEEN DOING THE INVESTIGATION PRIOR
TO THAT, AND THAT IS UNDERCUT LITERALLY BY THE EVIDENCE
PROVIDED BY THE MEMO, BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO BRING UP
STRZOK LET'S TALK ABOUT HIM.
THEY ARE USING HIM AS AN
EXAMPLE, AND THE ONE OF THE CORE CLAIMS OF THE MEMO IS THE ENTIRE
THING IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE DOSSIER BUT IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF
ANTI-TRUMP STUFF, BASICALLY.
AND THEY SAY IN THE MEMO, THIS IS
RIGHT AFTER THAT LAST GRAPHIC --
>>THAT IS A PARTICULARLY BRAZEN THING TO LEAVE IN THE
MEMO DAYS AFTER WE FOUND OUT THAT PETER STRZOK WAS PUSHING TO
REOPEN THE INVESTIGATION INTO HILLARY'S EMAILS A WEEK
BEFORE THE ELECTION.
>>SLOW DOWN, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
THE SAME GUY WHO DIDN'T
WANT TRUMP TO BE PRESIDENT, OR HAD SORT OF ANTI-TRUMP
BIAS, WAS ALSO PUSHING TO REOPEN THE HILLARY CLINTON EMAILS?
HOW CAN THAT BE?
>>WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.
>>IT'S JUST SO THIN, IT'S JUST THAT THE DOSSIER -- THEY DON'T
SAY IT WAS COMMISSIONED BY GOP OPERATIVES AND REPUBLICANS
WANTING TO HIRE FUSION GPS INITIALLY AND THEN PICKED UP BY
THE DNC AND HILLARY CLINTON, THAT'S COMPLETELY MISSING.
ALSO
I THINK IT'S READY FUNNY, CHRISTOPHER STEELE IN THIS, THEY
HAVE -- THERE IS SOME QUOTE IN THE MEMO THAT'S LIKE, HE WAS
CONCERNED THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BECOME PRESIDENT.
THIS IS
A GUY WHO HAD BEEN STUDYING DONALD TRUMP FOR MONTHS AT THAT
POINT, AND HIS LINKS AND CONNECTIONS TO RUSSIA, AND HE'S
CONCERNED ABOUT TRUMP BECOMING PRESIDENT.
LIKE, IT'S NOT BIAS,
IT'S JUST, LIKE, INFORMATION.
IT'S LIKE SAYING THAT NEIL
DEGRASSE TYSON IS BIASED AGAINST FLAT EARTHERS.
AND THE OTHER PERSON WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP BECOMING PRESIDENT WAS DONALD TRUMP.
>>AND HIS FAMILY.
>>AND THAT DUDE HAS BEEN STUDYING DONALD TRUMP FOR LIKE
70 YEARS.
I THINK WE ALL WERE CONCERNED, HE JUST SAID
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.