WOULD LAY OUT A PLAN ONTO ENGAGE
THE REGIME.
MARIA: DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT,
GENERAL?
LET'S TALK ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA
AND WHAT WE SAW BACK IN 2009 AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE WAY HE'S
BEEN APPROACHING THIS, WHAT
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE FROM THE
PRESIDENT THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN
ALREADY?
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE
CONTRAST BETWEEN OBAMA AND THE
SUMMER OF 2009 AND PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS REALLY STARK, CERTAINLY
AMERICAN CITIZEN WHEN WE WERE
SILENT AND MILLION PEOPLE PLUS
WERE IN THE STREETS
DEMONSTRATING AND FINALLY START
TODAY CLEAR THE STREETS AND WE
ABSOLUTELY SAID NOTHING, HOW
MORALLY BANKRUPT WERE AT THE
TIME NOT TO STAND MORALLY BEHIND
IRANIANS MUCH LIKE REAGAN STOOD
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, WE ARE
GOING STAND UP IN AGGRESSIVE
BUILDING A LAND BRIDGE THROUGH
IRAN, THROUGH IRAQ, THROUGH
SYRIA AND LEBANON TO BE ABLE TO
MOVE MISSILES AND ROCKETS TO
HEZBOLLAH AND ENCROACH ON ISRAEL
AND JORDAN.
THAT IS ALL COMING.
WE HAVE TO START TO IMPLEMENT A
RHETORIC.
BIT ABOUT PAKISTAN AS WELL.
COUNTRY HAS SUMMONED UN
AMBASSADOR IN WHICH SHE'S
ACCUSING PAKISTAN OF LIED AND
DECEIT TOWARDS THE U.S.
THE UNITED STATES HAS GIVEN
PAKISTAN MORE THAN $33 BILLION
IN AID OVER IN 15 YEARS, THEY
HAVE GIVEN US NOTHING BUT LIES
AND DECEIT THINKING OF LEADERS
AS FOOLS, WE HUNT IN AFGHANISTAN
WITH LITTLE HELP, NO MORE.
SO GENERAL, THIS IS HOW -- THIS
PRESIDENT IS APPROACHING
PAKISTAN, HOW DO YOU WANT TO SEE
HIM APPROACH IRAN?
WHAT IS THAT PLAN AND, OF
COURSE, WHAT'S YOUR RETOOKS WHAT
HE'S TELLING PAKISTAN RIGHT
HERE?
>> YEAH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL WITH
SUNNI ARAB WE SHOULD BE TRYING
TO CONTAIN SO THEY ARE NOT ABLE
TO PUT IN PLACE THE BRIDGE THAT
THEY SO DESPERATELY WANT.
WHEN IT COMES TO PAKISTAN, SO
VIEWERS CAN UNDERSTAND, IN
PAKISTAN THE TALIBAN, AFGHAN
TALIBAN HAS TWO SAFE HAVENS THAT
THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN
PAKISTAN EVER SINCE THE DOWN --
DOWNFALL, THEY PROVIDE THEM
INTELLIGENCE ON OUR OPERATION
THAT IS WE ARE CONDUCTING INSIDE
OF AFGHANISTAN, THEY PROVIDE
THEM WITH TRAINING AND
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESOURCE.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TO HOLD
THE AID, WHAT THEY WILL DO, THEY
WILL MAKE UP THAT MONEY FROM THE
CHINESE, EASILY, WHAT WE REALLY
NEED TO DO WITH THE PAKISTANIS
IS WE NEED TO SANCTION THE CHIEF
OF STAFF OF ARMY AND THE CHIEF
OF THEIR INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
AND DENY THEM INTERNATIONAL
TRAVEL AND RESPONSIBLE FOR
DEATHS OF CIVILIANS AND
CERTAINLY DEATHS OF AMERICAN
SOLDIERS.
THAT IS WE PROVIDE TO OUR TROOPS
COMES THROUGH TACK -- PAKISTAN,
THEY'LL SHUT IT DOWN, LET THEM
SHUT IT DOWN, WE WILL HAVE TO
COME THROUGH EUROPE.
BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE INTIMIDATED
OR THREATENED BY THEM.
WE HAVE TO STAND UP TO THE
PAKISTANIS, THERE'S NO WAY THAT
THIS WAR CAN END FAVORABLY TO
THE AFGHAN PEOPLE AND TO THE
UNITED STATES AS LONG AS THOSE
SANCTUARIES ARE IN PAKISTAN.
THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.
MARIA: SO YOU LIKE THIS TACK
GIVING AID TO PAKISTAN WHEN WE
KNOW WHERE THEY'RE USING THE
MONEY?
BECAUSE THEY'LL MAKE UP FOR
THAT.
IT'S A START.
WE ARE PUSHING BACK.
THE PAKISTANIS AND WE HAVE TO
CALL THEM OUT FOR WHAT THEY ARE
ON ISIS, LET ME TURN TO NORTH
KOREA FIRST.
THIS IS A SURPRISE.
NORTH KOREA ISSUING A NEW
THREAT, THE ENTIRE U.S. MAINLAND
WAS WITHIN THE COUNTRY'S NUCLEAR
STRIKE RANGE, THAT THE NUCLEAR
BUTTON IS ON HIS DESK.
HOW SERIOUSLY SHOULD THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TAKE THE
LATEST THREAT AND WHAT ABOUT THE
IDEA THAT IT'S OPENING UP A
WINDOW TO TALK ABOUT THE
OLYMPICS WITH SOUTH KOREA?
OF REENTERING THE EARTH'S
ATMOSPHERE AND MINIATURIZING AND
IT'S MONTHS AWAY NOT YEARS AWAY
WHICH TELLS ME IN 2018 IS LIKELY
BASED ON A DIRECTOR OF THE CIA
THAT IT'S LIKELY TO BE A
SHOWDOWN YEAR FOR THE UNITED
HEADING CLEARLY IN THAT
DIRECTION. FACT THAT THE NORTH
KOREANS WANT TO HAVE SOME
DISCUSSIONS, I THINK THAT'S
GOOD, THEY SHOULD BE CONDITIONED
WITH AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND IN
DOING SO, THEY HAVE ALWAYS
TRADED TIME ON THEIR SIDE IN
DOING IT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DECEIVE US
AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP
ADVANCED CAPABILITIES, THAT'S
BEEN A PLOY OF THEIRS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE
SHOULDN'T SIT DOWN TO TALK TO
THEM BUT WE SHOULD HAVE
CONDITIONS FOR THAT TALK.
MARIA: THERE'S A LOT OF
CONVERSATION ABOUT ISIS REALLY
GETTING DEFEATED, NOT 100%
OBVIOUSLY BUT REALLY GETTING
GENERAL, OBVIOUSLY HERE TOO YOU
HAVE A MUCH DIFFERENT APPROACH
FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP VERSUS
PRESIDENT OBAMA?
>> YES, PRESIDENT OBAMA WOULD
NEVER LET HIS COMMANDERS DO WHAT
THEY WANTED TO DO WITH ISIS AND
THE FACT THAT HE PERMITTED ISIS
UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION,
IT HELPED ISIS BECOME AN ICONIC
WORLDWIDE BRAND, IT WAS
VISIBILITY THAT ENABLED THEM TO
EXPAND TO 30 COUNTRIES, ATTACK
NATO 40 DIFFERENT TIMES EITHER
DIRECTED, SUPPORTED OR AT LEAST
INSPIRED ATTACKS BY PEOPLE
KILLING THEIR OWN CITIZENS.
THIS NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED,
THE SANCTUARY IN SYRIA SHOULD
HAVE BEEN CRUSHED IN 2014, 2015
AT THE LATEST, IT TOOK OBAMA 15
MONTHS BEFORE HE EVER FIRED A
ROUND AT THE SYRIAN OIL FIELDS
EVER FIRED A SHOT IN ANGER TO
HELP THE IRAQIS AFTER THEY ASKED
FOR ASSISTANCE.
TRUMP CAME IN AND RESET THE
TABLE AND BEGAN TO CRUSH ISIS IN
SANCTUARY AND TAKE THE TERRITORY
BACK.
MARIA: YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT
A LOT OF ACTIONS ARE RESINATING
IN CHINA, GENERAL, BECAUSE WE
NEED THE CHINESE TO PUSH BACK ON
NORTH KOREA AND I THINK THIS
PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS THE THREAT
THAT HE IS FACING WHEN FACED
WITH THE NORTH KOREAN REGIME, SO
WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SHOOTING
MISSILES TO SYRIA WHILE HE'S
HAVING DINNER WITH THE PRESIDENT
OF CHINA OR TAKING THIS HARD
STANCE AGAINST PAKISTAN OR ANY
MESSAGES TO CHINA, ISN'T HE?
>> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY GOES
RIGHT AFTER IT.
THEY DEFINE PPED AS LONG-TERM
STRATEGIC THREAT TO THE PACIFIC
THE UNITED STATES AS THE
PREEMINENT GLOBAL POWER IN THE
WORLD AND THEY'VE GIVEN ENORMOUS
AUTHORITY AND CONSOLIDATION OF
OF POWER TO PRESIDENT XI, THEY
DO NOT AGREE WITH THE
INTERNATIONAL ORDER AS WE
CURRENTLY KNOW IT.
THE SAME THING WITH THE
RUSSIANS, THIS IS ALL ABOUT A
WITH CHINA TO BE SURE N. THE
MEANTIME, CERTAINLY PRESIDENT
TRUMP RECOGNIZE THAT IS HE NEEDS
CHINA'S COOPERATION TO SHUT DOWN
THE NORTH KOREANS TO BE SURE.