THE PARLIAMENT BEHIND ME WILL BE
A TALL BILL.
LIZ: THERESA MAY PASSED THIS
TIME.
BUT THE IDEA THAT THE U.K. IS
EVEN COMING CLOSE TO STAYING IN
THE EUROPEAN UNION.
CONSERVATIVES THERE SAY THAT'S A
DISASTER.
ROBIN, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE IN ALL
THIS?
>> WHERE TO START?
THERESA MAY SURVIVED BUT I DON'T
SEE A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN THE
SITUATION.
THERE IS STILL A VERY UNPOP
THERE ARE A BREXIT DEAL ON THE
TABLE WHICH SHE CAN'T GENERATE
ANY SUPPORT FOR IN THE HOUSE OF
PARLIAMENT.
AND YET AT THE SAME TIME THE'
VOTE AS FAILED.
SHE'LL BE IN THE POSITION FOR AT
LEAST FOOT YEAR BECAUSE THERE
CAN'T BE ANOTHER LEADERSHIP
ALCOHOL EMERGENCY THAT TIME.
YOU SEE BRITAIN SLIDING INTO A
SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE COMING
OUT OF THE E.U. IN 15 WEEKS.
BUT NOBODY HAS AN IDEA WHAT THAT
LOOKS LIKE.
THE DEAL THERESA MAY PUT
TOGETHER, I DON'T THINK SHE'LL
GET MANY CONCESSIONS ON IT.
SO I DON'T REALLY SEE IF SHE IS
PLAYING FOR TIME, BUT I'M NOT
SURE WHAT SHE THINKS COULD
CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY
WHEN THE VOTE IS SCHEDULED.
>> THE DEAL NOISE BREXIT DEAL
THERESA MAY IS OFFERING.
BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.
IN 15 WEEKS' TIME BY LAW THE UP
K. COULD CRASH OUT OF THE E.U.,
RIGHT?
>> YES.
LIZ: THAT COULD BE A REAL MARKET
SHOCK.
>> I THINK YOU STRUCK ME IS A
WAS LISTENING TO YOUR COMMEND
COMMENTS JUST NOW OF ALL THESE
WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HOW THE
DEAL IS GOING TO TAKE BACK
CONTROL OF BORDERS AND FINANCE
AND TRADE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
I THINK THAT'S NOT WHAT'S
PRESENTED WITH THERESA MAY'S
DEAL AT THE MOMENT.
THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF UP
CERTAINTY IN THE U.K., THE
BUSINESSES AND SOCIETY OVERALL
IT'S HARD TO GET AWAY FROM THE
DEAL THE WAY BRITAIN HAS TRIED
TO GET OUT OF THE EUROPEAN UNION
HAS BEEN MISMANAGED FROM DAY
ONE.
LIZ: WHY DOES THE U.K. WANT TO
STAY TIED TO A FAILING EUROPE?
THIS IS A WAKE-UP CALL FOR HOW
WE THE U.S. RUNS ITS OWN
ECONOMIC AFFAIRS, RIGHT, ROB
GIN?
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED
TO COME OUT OF THE EUROPEAN
UNION, SO THERE WAS A
RECOGNITION THERE WERE GREAT
PROBLEMS WITH IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
BREXIT VOTE HAS THROWN OFF.
I HAVE SEEN MORE SENTIMENT ON
THE STREETS OF LONDON THAN I SAW
BEFORE.
BUT WHAT PEOPLE CAN'T ANSWER IS
THE FUNDAMENTALS, THIS ISN'T
JUST THE UNITED KINGDOM, YOU ARE
SEEING PROTESTS ACROSS EUROPE
SAYING THEY ARE NOT EFFECTIVELY
REPRESENTED BY THEIR LEADERS AND
THE EUROPEAN UNION.
I THINK GENERALLY THERE IS A
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN EUROPE
OF DISTRUST OF THESE MAINSTREAM
PARTIES AND INSTITUTIONED LIKE
THAT.
LIZ: IF YOU HAVE A EUROPEAN
COURT OF JUSTICE CONTINUING TO
SET THE RULES FOR THE U.K.,
THAT'S AN ISSUE.
U.K. POLITICIANS HAVE TO ANSWER
TO THE EUROPEAN COURT OF
JUSTICE.
THE EUROPEAN JUSTICE SAID YOU
DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY BREXIT.
THAT WAS STUNNING.
>> THE TORE
- THE TORE
--THE TORE
>> THE TORTUROUS PROCESS, THE
EUROPEAN UNION WAS SO FIRMLY
ENTRENCHED IN ITS REGULATIONS
THAT ESSENTIALLY BRITISH
PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY WASN'T
REPRESENTED TO THE PEOPLE.
>> YOU WILL HAVE FLAT LINING
GROWTH.
THERE ARE RIOTS IN THE STREET.
YOU HAVE A LAME DUCK PRESIDENCY
IN ANGELA MERKEL.
SPAIN THIS TROUBLE.
THE QUESTION REMAINS, IT'S A
MATTER OF POLITICAL WILL AND
RESOLVE TO GET IN THERE AND FIX
THE PROBLEM.
EUROPE IS A SWAMP.
D.C. IS A SWAMP.
BOTH SIDE OF THE POLITICAL AISLE
SAY THAT HERE.
WHAT WOULD MARGARET THATCHER SAY
IF SHE WAS DEALING WITH IT
TODAY?
>> SHE WOULD HAVE TAKE AND MORE
ROBUST APPROACH THAN THERESA
MAY.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE MARGARET
THATCHER AS PRIME MINISTER, WE
HAVE THERESA MAY.
LIZ: THIS IS NOT THE TIME THAT
TRIES MEN'S SOULS, IT TRIES
MEN'S SPINES.
WE NEED POLITICAL WILL AND
RESOLVE.
WHAT WOULD SHE TELL THEM TO DO?
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR.
>> SHE WOULD ENCOURAGE A TOUGHER
THE TUDE TOWARDS BRUSSELS AND
FIRMER RESOLVE IN TRYING TO GET
A NEW DEAL.
BUT I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.