NEIL: OMAROSA WITH A TAPE AND
MULTIPLE TAPES WE'RE TOLD OF
DONALD TRUMP ON THE HEELS OF
MICHAEL COHEN SIMILARLY TAPING
CONVERSATIONS WITH DONALD TRUMP
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ALL OF THAT
>> I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE HE DID
SOME OF THIS RECORDING IN A
CLASSIFIED OR SECURE SETTING IN
A SKIP AS WE SAY YOU'RE NEVER
SUPPOSED TO SAY ANY TYPE OF
DEVICE IN ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF
ROOMS.
ANY TIME WE WALK IN FOR ANY TYPE
OF BRIEFING WE HAVE TO CHECK OUR
STUFF AT THE DOOR SO THAT'S A
PROBLEM IN AND OF ITSELF AND THE
FACT THAT YOU'D JUST RECORD THE
PEOPLE YOU WORK FOR, I MEAN I
JUST FIND THAT TROUBLE SOME.
NEIL: AND APPARENTLY SO DOES THE
WHITE HOUSE, NOW SAYING THAT OMA
ROSA VIOLATED A NON-
DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT SAYING
SHE CAN'T DO THAT NOW LEGALLY
WHERE THEY TAKE IT FROM HERE I
HAVE NO IDEA BUT I BET WALL
STREET EDITORIAL MEMBER WRITER
FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR LISA BOOTH
AS WELL.
>> HI, NEIL.
NEIL: LISA, LEGALLY CAN THEY GO
AFTER HER?
I'M CERTAINLY NOT A LAWYER HERE
BUT FROM A PR PERSPECTIVE I
THINK THEY HIT THE NAIL ON THE
HEAD WITH HER OP-ED BASICALLY
WON'T SO SHE MIGHT HURT HERSELF
I DON'T THINK THAT HER BOOK IS
EVEN DOING THAT WELL FROM WHAT
I'VE READ AND ALSO WHERE DOES
SHE GO FROM HERE FROM THE
PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT IN THE
THIS SHE'S CLEARLY NOT MAKING
ANY FRIENDS.
NEIL: DID YOU READ WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SAID ABOUT HER THOUGH?
>> I WOULD NOT NECESSARILY
ADVISE HIM TO CALL HER THAT,
NEIL.
THAT PROBABLY WAS NOT THE BEST
THING TO SAY.
TO TRY TO GO AFTER HER
CREDIBILITY WHICH I DON'T THINK
IS THAT HARD TO DO BECAUSE YOU
EVEN HAVE THE MEDIA QUESTIONING
HER CREDIBILITY AS WELL.
AND TO DO IT IN THE IDEA WHEN I
WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT
CHECK OUR BLACKBERRY AT THE DOOR
ASTOUNDING.
NEIL: I KNOW PROTOCOL BUT
MICHAEL COHEN DID THE SAME THING
>> THE SITUATION ROOM IS A
LITTLE DIFFERENT AS THE FIRST
THING SAID IT'S A CLASSIFIED
AREA.
NEIL: BUT WHY WOULD YOU DO IT?
AGAIN I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE
DISMISSALS OF OMAROSA'S PERSON
BUT THE PRESIDENT PICKED HER AND
THE REAL SCANDAL IS NOT THAT SHE
GOT FIRED, BUT SHE WAS HIRED.
NEIL: BUT THE WAY SHE PREFACED
IT BY SAYING WELL I KNEW AND SEE
ING WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND ME
, I'M PARAPHRASING HERE, I
MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A TAPED
RECORD OF THIS.
DID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
NEIL: BUT WHERE IS THE LOYALTY
BACK TO BILL'S POINT THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP SHOULD HAVE
NEVER HIRED HER IN THE FIRST
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN
NECESSARILY THE BEST JUDGMENT IN
SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THE
PRESIDENT HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF
WITH AND I THINK GENERAL KELLY
HAS MADE A LOT OF POSITIVE
CHANGES, CHIEF OF STAFF AND
THOSE DECISION-MAKING IS
PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
NOW BUT ORIGINALLY I THINK
PRESIDENT TRUMP DIDN'T
NECESSARILY SURROUND HIMSELF
WITH THE BEST.
NEIL: I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I'M
NOT HERE TO DISPARAGE ANYONE BUT
I AM WONDERING YOU MENTIONED
FROM YOUR WHITE HOUSE EXPERIENCE
WHERE YOU HAD TO BRING YOUR
PHONES IN BUT I THOUGHT IN THE
SITUATION ROOM WHICH IS A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT THAN BEING IN THE
FRONT HALLWAY THAT A LONG TERMS
OR SOMETHING WOULD GO OFF.
>> I WAS SURPRISED THEY DON'T
HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KNOW THAT
I ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT THEY HAD
SOME WAY TO DETECT IT IF YOU
NEIL: LIKE IN ALL THE JAMES BOND
MOVIES THERE IS A DEVICE.
>> WELL WHEN YOU TRAVEL WITH
LOCATION.
THE STAFF SECRETARY HAS A HOTEL
OF ADJUSTMENTS TO SPEECHES UNDER
THIS BLUE TARP AND IT'S DESIGNED
TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM, IT'S JUST A
VERY VERY SERIOUS THING AND IF
YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THE SECURITY
OF A SKIF, WHAT CAN YOU
GUARANTEE?
>> WELL THEY SHOULD PROBABLY
LOOK AT MAKING CHANGES TO THAT
YOU'D THINK.
>> I WOULD THINK THERE WILL BE
CHANGES NOW.
LIKE LARRY KUDLOW, JOHN BOLTON,
MIKE POMPEO EVEN SCOTT PRUITT
FOR WHAT HE DID.
I THINK HE'S SOME EXTRAORDINARY
PICKS BUT HE'S ALSO HAD A LOT OF
PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T PUT IN A
YEAR.
NEIL: LIKE THE GUY SAID GET THIS
OUT THERE.
DO YOU THINK THE FACT THAT THE
PRESIDENTPAIR AGED JEFF SESSIONS
WHETHER THE GUY DESERVES IT OR
NOT AND THE FORMER SECRETARY OF
STATE AND DOES SO, SO PUBLICLY
EVEN MITCH MCCONNELL AND ALL
JUSTIFIED FRUSTRATION I'M NOT
SAYING THEY SAY WELL YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO BE LOYAL TO ME MR.
PRESIDENT, WHEN I GET THE
OPPORTUNITY, I'M GOING TO RETURN
THE FAVOR.
>> WELL I THINK IT WOULD IMPACT
SOME REALLY TALENTED SMART
INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE
HESITANT TO POTENTIALLY GO INTO
WITH, HE ALSO SURROUNDED HIMSELF
WITH A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.
NEIL: BUT A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE,
TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT HERE
ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO BE
SURPRISED IF AND WHEN GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY THEY DON'T RETURN
THE FAVOR?
>> WELL I THINK THIS SITUATION
IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM A PR
PERSPECTIVE IT IS
SHE MISTREATED THE WHITE HOUSE
EVEN WITH HER WEDDING PHOTOS AND
THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO IT IS
TO DISCREDIT HER AND HER
DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO BEGIN WITH.
>> I AGREE WITH THE LARGER
POINT THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE
SOME PRETEND US PICKS BUT I
DON'T KNOW OF THE MANAGEMENT
BOOK THAT SAYS YOU TRASH YOUR
EMPLOYEES LIKE JEFF SESSIONS IN
PUBLIC BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
BIDDING THEIR TIME IN THE WHITE
HOUSE AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE FREE
OUR CASE SHE SEEMS TO HAVE A NON
LIKE THAT?
>> NO I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
AND A LOT OF CRITICISM IN THE
BUSH ADMINISTRATION BUT MY
COLLEAGUES WERE FAIRLY LOYAL TO
EACH OTHER AND TO THE PRESIDENT.
THERE WAS SOME EXCEPTIONS
THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE IN THERE,
SO I DO AGREE WITH YOU.
NEIL: BUT YOU'RE NOT WIRED THAT
WAY.
BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE.
THE PRESIDENT CAN FIGHT BACK NOW
AND COULD HAVE HAD THIS BUT THE
INFORMATION WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR
NOT IS NOW OUT THERE AND THEY
HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
IT'S A TOUGH, YOU KNOW AGAIN, HE
HIRED HER.
THE SCANDAL IS THAT SHE EVER HAD
AN IMPORTANT JOB IN THE WHITE
HOUSE.
>> REAL QUICK, I ALSO THINK
PRESIDENT TRUMP CLEARLY CAME
FROM A DIFFERENT WORLD ENTERING
INTO POLITICS THAN MOST
POLITICIANS SO IT'S NOT
IT'S VERY COMMON.
>> BUT BUSINESS COMING FROM THE
MEDIA WORLD THIS WORLD OF
CELEBRITY I THINK IS COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT SCENARIO AND THAT WAS
THE LENS IN WHICH SHE WAS
MAKING SIGN AN NDA.
NEIL: COULD YOU SAY THAT A