Why the price?
Well, we've been called race grifters.
We've been called, yeah,
Huskers, everything.
And to be quite honest, what we charge
is $5000 for a dinner for 10 people.
OK, that's not a lot of money.
If you consider you go out to a
nice restaurant in Cherry Creek and
you have cocktails, you have wine,
you have dinner, you have dessert,
that's not a lot of money.
And this is what people need to understand.
Cyra and I don't pay ourselves
from the business.
We pay the woman who works with us,
OK, and we put the rest of the
money back into the business.
We don't.
Well, functionally it doesn't matter if
it's $50,000 or, you know, $5 or five cents.
You know why people are worked up about this?
Because white people think that them doing
this work is charity and we should be paying
them so even a penny would be too much.
So the fixation on price is 100%
racist and 100% white supremacy.
Why don't you go see?
It's not just the dinner, it's the prep time.
Like resident White woman Lisa Bond
spends time prepping these women.
It's the two hours, right?
Food, wine, all of it.
And then afterwards, Regina and I are
available all the time to talk to them.
Lisa does another zoom. We broke it down.
It's it's like very little per hour.
White women will pay for a purse, no problem.
How much do they pay for their yoga?
How much do they pay for their culturally
appropriate, appropriated yoga?
How much they pay for their?
Exercise classes, right?
That's a nothing.
Go find out.
Just do a deep dive on how much Robin,
D'Angelo and Glenn and Doyle
charge for 30 minute lectures.
It is 10s of thousands of dollars.
No problem there.
But white people think anti racism work
is charity and we should be paying them.
So again,
it doesn't matter if it's a penny or
if it's 5000 or $50,000 that they are.
It is racist, it's racist.
The fixation on money is racist and we
have a chapter on that in the book.
Yeah.
What?
Why do this work?
It's got to be exhausting.
I think on some level even traumatizing.
You guys are so talented in so
many different eclectic ways.
Should be doing anything
with your time and energy.
Why commit to doing this work?
Well, I have children and grandchildren.
I want the world to be a
better place for them.
I want the world to be a better place for
I have gotten in this space in my life.
When I'm out in public,
I greet all all black. People,
kings and Queens, my daughter said to me.
Mom, stop. It's really weird.
What's that? I'm like, no,
I'm not gonna stop because you know what?
No one affirms us.
We have to learn to affirm ourselves.
So I do this work so that hopefully
black people can have a better
opportunity at equity at work,
at jobs, at housing, at education.
That's why I do this work.
And, you know,
I'm at a certain level, you know,
where I can do it.
And that's what I feel I should be doing.
You know, we get asked this a lot.
Why do this work?
How can you do this work?
And here's my question to everybody.
Why are you not doing this work?
What is happening right now?
We are in a not a slow March towards fascism.
We are in a like a fast,
you know, fast March to fascism.
And not just our kids and our grandkids.
Humanity, humanity on earth.
Mother Earth is rightfully kicking us out.
You know, nothing matters more than saving.
Humanity and humanity will
not be saved until and unless
white supremacy is eradicated.
And white supremacy will not
be eradicated until everybody
eradicates it from themselves.
So I have a question to everybody listening,
watching why are you not doing this work?
Nothing.
Tell me what is more important than
saving humanity and we'll talk once
you come up with a better answer.
And I like to help white people understand
that white supremacy is killing you too.
Our quest to destroy the Earth for profit
is killing you and your children also.
Guns. Gun manufacturers are making
money on the lives of our children.
Are you OK with that?
There's this thought, and I don't
remember which one specifically said this,
but it struck me when we
were talking about this idea.
I feel like white privilege has been this,
you know, kind of new moniker
that you threw out there.
And it's like it's sweet. Like
you get a white person. Oh
yeah. Like I've got white privilege.
But is that just another way
of saying white supremacy and
that is such a like that is a
shocking word for white people.
How this is like you say you're
very bold and brazen and and.
Draw in the book this is white supremacy.
Yes? How do you make that
digestible for white women?
I don't care about making it
digestible for white women.
You will never hear me say
the little DIY buzzwords.
What's that one, Zyra?
I'm sorry, the little de.
Microaggressions. There's no
such thing as a microaggression.
That's a racial aggression.
OK, you don't hear me talk about.
The type of racism that you don't
see or people don't think about
unconscious bias. Uh, y'all know.
Jane Elliott proved that.
You know when she says, OK,
how many of you nice white people
would trade places with a black
person in this society? They know.
Yeah. And and further to that,
this whole notion that if you, you know,
at the time of this taping right now,
being nicer hasn't ended racism.
Saying things nicer hasn't ended racism.
Maybe by the time it airs that'll be
different and everything's all taken care of.
But it doesn't matter how you say it,
it's what you're saying.
So we could be massaging people's feet,
we could be massaging people's shoulders,
we could be baking them, cakes us,
calling white people white people
sends them into a into a fit. Right.
So if no matter how you say it,
it's going to land like a thud for
a lot of white folks, why not just
be blunt and call a thing a thing?
Just say it simply.
And here's the reality.
A lot of white people love our work.
A lot of white people are doing the work.
I mean, there is a reason we're
getting all of this attention.
It's because it's working.
And I'll tell you what,
Fox News doing a 5 minute primetime
piece comparing our movies airing
in Canada to Pearl Harbor.
Because two random black and
brown women in Denver, Co,
having dinners with white women.
You know what they care about?
They don't care about us.
We are nobodies.
We are a black and brown mass,
right?
They care because they know that
our theory is true.
If white women start to dismantle their
own white supremacy and their racism,
the whole charade ends.
The entire thing is over.
They know that and they're scared.
And I think we need to also
understand that white women.
Look at Roe versus Wade.
That's on white women, you know,
if you want to lose your bodily rights.
Because of white supremacy,
well, this is what we get a
reversal of Roe versus wade.
Is it worth?