>>KAMERON PRESCOTT IS A SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO WAS SHOT
LAST WEEK DURING A DEPUTY SHOOTOUT.
THIS IS A PICTURE HERE
OF CAMERON, AND HE IS MOST LIKELY THE YOUNGEST VICTIM OF A
POLICE SHOOTING IN 2017.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN THROW UP THE
PICTURES SOON SO YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT HE'S A VERY ADORABLE
SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO WAS TRAGICALLY SHOT LAST WEEK.
THE
SHOOTING TOOK PLACE
IN TEXAS, THE SHERIFF, JAVIER SALAZAR,
SAYS --
>>APPARENTLY DURING THE TIME SHE WAS IN THE MOBILE HOME SHE
THREATENED TO STEAL HER CAR, SHE THREATENED THAT SHE DID HAVE A
GUN, BEFORE SHE ACTUALLY FACED THE
DEPUTIES --
>>THE FOUR DEPUTIES WHO OPENED FIRE HAVE BEEN PLACED ON
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE FOR FIVE DAYS, AND THIS IS JUST A TRAGIC
AND HORRENDOUS STORY THAT KAMERON WAS CAUGHT UP IN THIS.
THERE HAS BEEN NO HANDGUN FOUND ON SITE, THERE WAS A PIPE THAT
WAS FOUND THAT I GUESS THEY ARE SAYING RESEMBLED THE HANDGUN
DURING THE SHOOTING, BUT NONETHELESS THIS IS A HORRENDOUS
TRAGEDY.
>>ONE PART OF THE STORY SAYS AS OF FRIDAY OFFICIALS HAD NOT
RECOVERED A WEAPON.
I GOT NEWS FOR YOU, THEY AREN'T GOING TO
RECOVER ONE.
BELIEVE ME THEY LOOKED FOR ONE RIGHT AWAY AFTER
THEY SHOT AND KILLED NOT ONLY HER BUT THE KID.
TRYING TO FIND
THAT WEAPON WOULD'VE BEEN THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
THERE WAS
NO WEAPON.
LOOK, THE RESULT OF THIS IS AS HORRIFIC AS IT GETS.
WHAT LED UP TO IT IS NOT AS HORRIFIC AS SOME OTHER STORIES
WE'VE SEEN, THAT IS AS LOW A BAR AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY HAVE.
YOU
HAVE PEOPLE BEING SHOT IN THE BACK, PEOPLE CRAWLING ON THEIR
KNEES BEING SHOT IN HOTEL HALLWAYS, ETC., IN THIS CASE AT
LEAST SHE SAID SHE HAD A WEAPON A COUPLE TIMES.
THE FIRST TIME
SHE SAID SHE HAD A WEAPON SHE DIDN'T AND SHE NEVER FIRED IT,
THEY NEVER SAW WEAPON, SHE AT LEAST SAID IT.
BUT MOST
IMPORTANTLY WE USED TO HAVE TRAINING IN AMERICA WHERE COPS
WERE CAREFUL.
FREEZE, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, PUT YOUR HANDS UP,
ETC., AND PART OF THE REASONS SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE STOPPED
HIGH-SPEED CHASES IS BECAUSE IT ENDANGERS INNOCENT CIVILIANS.
GUESS WHAT ALSO ENDANGERS INNOCENT CIVILIANS?
A SHOOTOUT
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
IF YOU CARED
ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MORE, AND YOU TAUGHT THE POLICE TO CARE
ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MORE, THEY WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A
HIGHER PERCENTAGE CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THEIR BULLETS DIDN'T GO TO
OTHER PEOPLE'S HOMES.
IF YOU TEACH THEM THAT THEIR LIFE IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THERE IS IN THE COMMUNITY'S LIFE IS A
MUCH LOWER PRIORITY, IT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE A GUN, LET'S JUST
DO A HAIL OF BULLETS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
THE BULLETS IN
THIS CASE KILLED SOMEONE WITH NO WEAPON, AND A SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY.
THAT'S WHY WE TELL YOU, DO POLICE TRAINING WHERE WE
PRIORITIZE THE COMMUNITY, AND BY THAT, I MEAN ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES, AS OPPOSED TO AT ALL COSTS JUST PROTECT YOURSELF.
>>SO WHEN YOU SAY ALL COMMUNITIES, THAT'S WHAT
IMMEDIATELY GOES IN MY HEAD IS THIS HAPPENED AT A TRAILER PARK,
AND THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE OF LOWER INCOME, WHO LIVE IN LOWER INCOME
NEIGHBORHOODS, ARE MORE SUBJECT TO THESE TYPES OF TRAGEDIES.
I
GREW UP IN ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I KNOW THAT
WHEN THE POLICE COME THROUGH YOU GET FLAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY,
GET ON THE FLOOR UNTIL IT PASSES, BECAUSE YOU CAN CATCH A
BULLET.
BUT I DO THINK THAT IN THIS DAY WHEN ALL OF THE THINGS
THAT ARE HAPPENING, AND THE POLICE CONSTANTLY STAY UNDER
FIRE BECAUSE OF -- WE KEEP ATTACKING THE POLICE, AND I'M
NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU, BUT I'M SAYING WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF
THE ISSUES WITH RACE, BUT IT'S A SYSTEMIC ISSUE, AND POLICE JUST
HAPPENED TO BE THE GUYS EXECUTING THE -- I GET REALLY
PISSED OFF -- THE COPS ARE DOING THEIR DIRT BUT BECAUSE THE
SYSTEM IS IN PLACE THEY CONTINUE TO DO THEIR DIRT, BUT THE SYSTEM
IS WORKING AGAINST US, AND THESE COPS, WHO DON'T MAKE A LOT OF
MONEY, AREN'T BEING PROPERLY TRAINED, ARE GOING OUT INTO
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN AND
PEOPLE DIE.
SO I'M NOT ANTI-POLICE, BUT I'M PRO POLICE
-- WHAT IS THE WORD, CENK, I WANT THE WORD TO GET BETTER.
>>ACCOUNTABILITY.
>>AND I THINK YOU MAKE A REALLY GOOD POINT, OF COURSE THERE ARE
SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ANTI-POLICE BUT I DON'T THINK WHAT WE ARE
SAYING HERE IS ANTI-POLICE, WE ARE SAYING WE WANT THE POLICE
FORCE TO BE BETTER TRAINED.
IN THE POLICE FORCE SHOULD BE ON
BOARD WITH THAT AS WELL, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PUT IN A SITUATION
WHERE FOUR DEPUTIES ARE FIRING AT ONE WOMAN WHO DOESN'T EVEN
HAVE A GUN.
OF COURSE THERE IS GOING TO BE A STRAY BULLET THAT
COULD CAUSE DAMAGE.
THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT I THINK SHOULD HAVE
BEEN ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THIS SORT OF TRAGEDY.
I THINK ANOTHER
ISSUE IS WE NEED TO START BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE GUNS.
THERE
ARE SO MANY OF THESE SITUATIONS WHERE POLICE ASSUME SOMETHING IS
A GUN AND IT'S A CIGARETTE PACK OR AS A HAIR COMB OR WHATEVER IT
MIGHT BE, THIS WOMAN WAS HOLDING A PIPE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
SAFETY COMES FIRST AND SOMETIMES YOU AREN'T ABLE TO TELL WHAT IT
IS, BUT IF SHE'S BRANDISHING A PIPE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE
THAT THAT ISN'T A HANDGUN WITH THE WAY SHE'S HOLDING IT AND
OTHER SORT OF MECHANISMS THAT COME INTO PLAY.
I THINK THE
THIRD ISSUE HERE IS THEIR SHOOTING ACCURACY.
IF THEY ARE
SHOOTING AT ONE WOMAN, AT A SPECIFIC TARGET, HOW WAS THERE A
STRAY BULLET?
HOW WAS THERE A STRAY BULLET THAT RICOCHETED AND
WENT INTO A MOBILE HOME?
AND WE SAY THE ARGUMENT FOR OPEN CARRY
AND FOR HAVING MORE GUNS IS LIKE, IF THERE'S A BAD GUY WE
WILL BE ABLE TO STOP HIM WITH OUR GUN -- NO, EVEN THE TRAINED
OFFICIALS IN OUR COUNTRY CANNOT EVEN HIT AT ONE TARGET.
>>BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A BARRAGE OF BULLETS.
THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULDN'T DO A BARRAGE OF BULLETS.
THAT'S WHY I
KEEP EMPHASIZING THE TRAINING.
IS IT HARD TO DISTINGUISH A GUN
FROM OTHER THINGS?
I GUESS, I GET IT.
BUT TO ME THAT'S NOT THE
ISSUE, I THINK WHAT THE ISSUE IS, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A GUN,
DON'T SHOOT, IS WHAT I WOULD TELL THEM.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT
THEY ARE BEING TOLD.
IF YOU THINK THERE'S ANY CHANCE THERE'S
A GUN, SHOOT.
THE GUY IN THE HALLWAY, THE 26-YEAR-OLD WHITE
GUY WHO WAS KILLED IN THE HALLWAY WHO WAS BEGGING FOR HIS
LIFE, HE WAS IN SHORTS AND A T-SHIRT, A RIFLE HAD BEEN
REPORTED, TURNED OUT IT WASN'T REALLY A RIFLE, BUT THERE WAS NO
RIFLE, NO GUN.
HE WENT TO PULL UP HIS SHORTS AS HE WAS CRAWLING
ON THE GROUND AND THEY SHOT HIM ANYWAY.
IN THIS CASE THERE'S NO
GUN, AFTERWARDS THEY ARE LIKE, THERE WAS SOME BROWN OBJECT
SOMEWHERE NEARBY -- NO, YOU NEVER SAW A GUN, AND THAT'S
BECAUSE YOU WERE TRAINED DON'T BOTHER LOOKING FOR A GUN, IF YOU
SEE THE GUN IT'S TOO LATE, JUST SHOOT AND KILL THE OTHER PERSON
FIRST.
I DON'T WANT MY COPS TRAINED THAT WAY.
AND AIDA IS
RIGHT, THE COPS ARE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, THEY ARE GETTING THE
MOST HEAT, IT'S THE SYSTEM THAT'S THE PROBLEM, AND TO GIVE
COPS NOT CREDIT BUT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE,
AND I'VE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES ON THE SHOW, NOW EVERYONE
HAS A GUN.
THAT'S PART OF WHY COPS ARE JITTERY.
AND TO
HANNAH'S POINT, THE RIGHT WING SAYS IT WILL MAKE EVERYONE
SAFER.
DO WE LOOK SAFER?
NO, ALL THE COPS ARE ON A RAZOR'S EDGE
BECAUSE THEY THINK, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, THAT ALMOST EVERY
AMERICAN HAS A GUN.
THEY THINK I'M NOT TAKING ANY CHANCES, I'M
JUST GOING TO KILL PEOPLE.
SO NOW WHEN A SIX-YEAR-OLD DIES WE
ARE BROKEN UP OVER IT AND WE SHOULD BE, BUT THE REAL
PROBLEM IS IN THE SYSTEM.
>>IT SHOULDN'T TAKE A WHITE MAN, A LITTLE BOY, A WOMAN, TO GET
KILLED FOR THERE TO BE A CALL FOR REFORM FOR THE POLICE.
AND
THAT'S THE ISSUE, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE SAY -- MIKE WAS A
CRIMINAL OR TRAYVON WAS A CRIMINAL -- AND TRAYVON WASN'T
MURDERED BY THE COPS -- IT SHOULDN'T TAKE A WHITE MAN, A
FATHER, THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE THE CONVERSATION.
THE
CONVERSATION IS THAT CITIZENS ARE DYING AT THE HANDS OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THERE IS A DEFICIENCY IN THE SYSTEM AND IT
NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE CONCERNED
ABOUT IT, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER TO YOU ONLY WHEN YOUR GROUP IS
AFFECTED.