>> Okay, Piers I'm ready. >> A former president
in denial. >> I'll be
completely straight with you to your face. >> I think I'm a very honest man, much more
honest than you actually. >> Really?
>> Yeah. >> It was a free and fair
election, you lost. Only a fool would think now >> The most explosive interview of the year.
>> I don't think you're real. Let's finish up the interview.
>> Morgan versus Trump. >> It's the clash of the titans and and by
now you've probably seen that it went viral. It was trending on Twitter yesterday. Piers Morgan
getting into it with Trump and apparently getting so under his skin that Trump just storms off.
But if you're familiar with Trump, but especially if you're familiar with Piers Morgan.
I don't know, maybe you felt like I did that. Are we sure this is presenting an accurate idea
of what actually happened? In fact, yesterday when I was on the young Turks and cast Therien,
I expressed my concerns about what might really be going on as you'll see in this.
First of all this, this is all Pier. Look, I could be proven wrong, it's Trump
and its Piers Morgan. These are two people who are known to only think about promoting themselves.
Everything they say and do is based around that. Are we 100% sure that they didn't cook this up?
Or that at least peers didn't cook this up? >> No, we're not 100% sure
and you're right, I mean. >> But all of that is designed to get you
to watch. I got news for you that is by far the most, the only interesting part of the interview.
Whatever Trump says, is just gonna be the same thing you've heard. So enjoy that trailer,
do not watch the show.
I would like to stick with that when it eventually does come out in just a few days. I'm not even
gonna tell you the day it comes out because I don't want you to watch it, don't watch it.
But also yeah, it's looking like no, that was not an accurate depiction of
what actually happened. And the evidence of the perhaps artifice being used in crafting
that trailer has come out in multiple phases starting with this statement
by Donald Trump who says Piers Morgan like the rest of the fake news media attempted to
unlawfully and deceptively edit his long and tedious interview with me.
First of all, it's unlawfully edit, I don't think there's a lot of laws about
exactly what sort of jump cuts you can use and everything. But he wanted to make it look like
I walked down the interview when my time limit of 20 minutes went over by an hour.
The good news that the interview was taped to keep in mind, here's my favorite part.
The interview was actually very strong on the 2020 election fraud with me calling him a fool
if you truly believe those results. I love the idea that the interview was strong cuz I called
him a fool that that was a master stroke there and you calling him a name I guess.
But the thing is while Donald Trump is a bad guy, he is not necessarily wrong here because
there will be more evidence forthcoming first though Piers Morgan responded to the statement
by Trump saying morning Mr President, it was a great interview. Thanks for all your time.
Sorry you got so annoyed that I don't believe the 2020 election was rigged or stolen from you.
But as I said, where's your proof? If you have it, show us or accept the results and
move on. And as I will get to some of the more raw footage taped by the Trump camp
has now been described. You can find the audio online actually
and it turned out that yeah, Piers Morgan was sort of messing with the results here Kyla,
are you surprised that that like bombastic like WWE style trailer turned out not to be accurate?
>> Not at all. And honestly, people love even people on the left, we love to see right on
right violence. But then like you said before, I don't wanna see people watching it or even
applauding Piers at all for this because it just further legitimizes his platform.
We shouldn't applaud him for knowing basic information, we know that Trump lost the election.
He's just living a little bit more reality than Trump and that's nothing to applaud or cheer on.
>> Yeah, 100% okay, so he is willing to admit that the election was stolen, which should be,
that is not the bar that is so far below whatever any bar we should have for journalists.
But at the same time, so does that make it,
we're supposed to forget that he's got this bizarre obsession with Meghan Markle and he
makes like every news cycle about how Meghan Markle is awful or something.
No, he remains an awful self promoter. Well again, you cannot trust Piers Morgan's.
When he decided to quit his job with Good Morning Britain or whatever he was doing,
he presented it very transparently as him being canceled and all that.
Now he just quit, you can't trust this guy and fundamentally an inability to
trust someone who's presenting themselves as a journalist, that seems like an issue personally.
But let's jump now into what actually happened. So this is according to an analysis of the
audio Morgan nclaimed and a preview, the one we showed you seemed to show that Trump got miffed
when his interviewer called him out for falsely claiming that he'd won reelection back in 2020.
Trump calls Piers with whom he had previously been chummy, dishonest and a fool,
exactly, very strong interview. Trump started talking again after that about a hole in one that
he had gotten a few weeks ago. Morgan had claimed that Trump then gave him a hateful look and left.
But on the audio the two men can be heard laughing and thanking each other
with no dramatic storming off or at least a dramatic storming off that might have been
overly played up or even jokey. But that he went back and he did more of the interview.
And at the end, Morgan could be heard saying that was a great interview.
Trump says yeah, morgen says thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Trump at that point says,
turn the camera off. And the Trump team are now claiming that the preview was deceptively
edited to imply that he stormed off but it didn't actually happen. In fact he turned the camera off
is being presented as early on, it happened at the very end of the, it's just it's so dishonest.
And I don't know how many people are gonna watch it anyway. This was a desperate attempt to get
people to watch it, Kayla, but it's just you should be able to expect a little bit more
honesty, even out of someone like Piers Morgan. >> And how you mentioned how you know his
obsessions Meghan Markle, he ran off when he was getting questioned about it.
And he was telling on the internet like give me more of you know back me up here. I was upset,
I came back, I talked it through and it's kind of funny him saying and turning it now onto Trump
and so again he's a clown, they're just doing it for pr
and one should be watching or legitimizing any of of what he has to say.
>> Exactly and look, I'm not gonna tell you that Trump looks great coming out of this. I mean after
all, he is still occasionally insisting that he won the election, once every two or three
months or so, he admits that he lost, we cover it and then he forgets that he said it or whatever.
He did kind of freak out a little bit. He is still lying about the results of
the election, but you don't do yourself any favors
when you allow him to easily present himself. And there to be a plausible case
that he's sort of the victim here that you are lying about the interaction that you had.
And in fact in terms of how Piers Morgan handled the interview
in the audio, a handler for Trump can be heard multiple times saying Morgan needs
to wrap up the hour long interview. Now look, handlers do that all the time and
that doesn't necessarily make them right. But if the interview is scheduled for 20
minutes and you're over an hour, then yeah, they get to be a little bit frustrated.
Especially because you as an interviewer are then putting them in the position where
well, if you're not gonna let them consensually end the interview, then the only way it can end
is with them kind of looking bad by storming off for saying I'm not taking any more questions.
That's what you then provided as an interviewer and
Trump is a bad guy. He is arguably the worst guy. I do not like anyone giving
him a news cycle where he gets to come off as the victim and that is what Piers
Morgan has done in his quest to get people to watch him to tune into his dumb new show.
He gets to make Trump look like the good guy here. Any other thoughts?
>> It's just absolutely ridiculous, but I might be, I think it's kind of funny.
I don't really like Trump so any situation that makes him uncomfortable, I'm down for it,
let's just be honest. He doesn't deserve to be comfortable in any setting that hestepped foot in.
But again, he used it for a pr son, he used it to get clicks and views. And so I agree he shouldn't
be using these deceptive tactics in order to again make money off of it. And so in that
respect, I don't agree with what he did. But do I feel bad that Trump has made uncomfortable?
Not in the slightest. 100% and really fast just to throw away, there was an audience member who
raised the half black reaper raised this Trump is about to do a rally in Nebraska with Hebster,
the candidate that Charles Herbster that we talked about last week, who is facing
allegations from multiple republican women that he groped them at parties and things like.
These are multiple republican politicians, women let's say he grew up them Trump is
about to do a rally to get that guy elected. But instead of the news cycle being about that
Piers Morgan trout like I know, it's just it's really frustrating. This is a terrible guy.
Focus on that, not on trying to get yourself promoted.
As I always say, the news is not about the people discussing the news if it is,
it ain't news anymore. It's reality tv with a newsy kind of tone and that's it.