>> 12 welcome back. There’s
no doubt you’re seeing the
words title. 42 a lot this week
along with that, the images of
hundreds of thousands of people
lined up to cross the U.S.
border, our state and federal
governments expect a massive
surge in migration after title.
42 expires at midnight tonight.
Joining me live to talk about
the impact here in Texas is
KPRC. 2 investigator Robert
Arnold. Robert, you have
reported on title 42
extensively. I want to start
by making sure our focus this
morning listening and watching
understand what title 42 is.
>> This was something that came
about in the 1940’s. It was
created by our government as a
way to help stop the spread of
communicable disease
essentially, it’s it’s a health
care measure. It’s not an
immigration measure. And what
it says is that he gives the
federal government the
authority to stop somebody
traveling
from a foreign country at our
border and say we’re going to
have you here. You’re going
to send you back to the country
does came from because we have
a concern about your presence
coming in further spreading in
communicable disease. And like
I said, that’s been used in
targeted ways. It’s rarely
used. He was he came about
during the pandemic under
President
Donald Trump Na became
increasingly used on our border
is a way to quickly expel
migrants without going through
the cumbersome process of the
importation. So when you have a
matter of fact, just the first
6 months of this fiscal year,
219,000 immigrants have been
expelled from the country under
title. 42 because of what it’s
it’s not an immigration, a
charge. He just says we’re
going to send you back for
health-related reasons. They’re
not charged with any crime.
There’s no culpability on that
and nothing when title 42 is
used. So when title 42 goes
away. any subject to Title 8,
which is the importation were
expedited removal in. If they
come back in again after that,
they can face very serious
charges at this point.
>> That’s very interesting.
I did not know the back story
did not realize that title.
42 had been around for so long
and it in fact, was not user
initially made brought about as
the as the type procedure.
I know it was not. It was not
designed for Immigration
Control Act was designed to do
to protect the public’s health
in the United States.
>> Yeah, that’s that’s very
fasting. Not something that
talk a lot about when we’re
when we’re talking about title.
42 went so when title 42
expires. You mentioned Title 8
will will go back into play.
What is you touched upon it?
But what is and what changes
will we see? I know you touched
upon a few of those, but it
give us more on that.
>> Well, totaling never went
away. And Tylee was still being
used along the border title.
42 was just uses that rise in
Eanes of quickly expelling
migrant. I lady is the
deportation process and that
can be cumbersome. The reason
that can be cumbersome and a
lot of the problems that we’ve
seen along the border, she is a
person has to be deported to
their home country. So say you
have somebody from a country
other than Mexico. You can just
simply exact person back across
the border, deport them back to
making it to the board and your
home country will to do that.
You have to have a place to add
to house actually cheer for
that individual until
arrangements can be made to
send them back to their home
country. When you see the
overwhelming the historic
numbers we’ve been seeing on
the water, we don’t have a
detention space to house.
All these other people who are
coming from countries other
than Mexico until their cases
can be heard. So many have to
be released into the United
States with what are called in
to the A’s notices to appear in
immigration court at a later
date and they can claim asylum
where they can try to remain in
this country through that
process. But about the border
and the numbers that we’re
seeing in less title. 42 had
been used and we would have
to detain the individual in
till like I said, their case
works their way through the
process. And so that’s why
you’ve seen is push pull about
keeping title. 42 in place by
really that’s all kind of
moving at this point because
time 42 really is only possible
in times of a public health
emergency. And that’s all
expiring. Now as the COVID-19
emergencies are are expiring.
>> Robert, when you talk about
this push, there appears to be
a major divide between
Democrats and Republicans on
this issue. That’s nothing new.
Do you think that this divide
will be detrimental and how
we move forward, especially
after midnight tomorrow.
And the impact it will have
here in Texas.
>> I don’t really get my my
place inside instead to mental
or not. What I can say is that
right now from everything
gration attorney that I’ve
spoken to to every person that
has been helping immigrants,
you in this country with either
shelter or supplies for food,
then the system is chaotic.
Right now. There’s no clear cut
priorities. And when you have
this type of in flux, it’s only
going out of the backlog.
We’re already seeing an
immigration court. I mean, we
have 2.1 million cases already
backlog in immigration. Courts
across the country takes one
case. One case, an average of
728 days to make it through,
make its way through the
immigration court system and
the numbers that we’re seeing,
it’s likely that’s going to