TWO WEEKS, THEN A BIG
DEPORTATION BEGINS, WRITES THE
PRESIDENT.
JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IS
REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN DEVIN
NUÑES WHO SITS ON THE HOUSE WAYS
AND MEANS COMMITTEE.
CONGRESSMAN, ALWAYS A PLEASURE
TO SEE YOU.
THANK SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU, MARIA.
MARIA: YOU'RE IN CALIFORNIA
WHERE WE HAVE A WALL THAT
SEPARATES TIJUANA AND SAN DIEGO.
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO
PRESIDENT'S MOVE TO WAIT TWO
WEEKS TO SEE IF THE DEMOCRATS
ACTUALLY APPROACH THIS ISSUE?
>> WELL, THE PRESIDENT IS
GROWING IN OFFICE, RIGHT?
HE KNOWS THAT HE CAN'T DO IT BY
HIMSELF, AND I THINK WHAT HE'S
DOING IS THE DEMOCRATS ASKED HIM
IF HE WOULD DELAY THIS.
HE'S SAYING, OKAY, I'LL GIVE YOU
TWO WEEKS.
NOW REMEMBER, THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
BEEN IN OFFICE FOR SIX MONTHS
NOW, THEY HAVE YET TO MOVE A
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO FOCUS
ON, IS THE PEOPLE THAT THEY
ELECT HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO
PASS LEGISLATION.
THEY CAN'T JUST OPPOSE WHAT THE
PRESIDENT WANTS TO DO BECAUSE,
AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN AT THE
BORDER, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A
DISASTER DOWN THERE.
IT IS A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS, AND
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT COULD
EASILY BE FIXED IF WE WANTED TO
DO IT.
MARIA: YOU'RE RIGHT.
WHEN WE WERE AT THE BORDER,
SEEING THOSE CHILDREN BEING, YOU
KNOW, MOWED AROUND BY PEOPLE AND
SHOWING UP SICK, IT WAS ACTUALLY
SUCH A CRISIS AND SO OBVIOUSLY A
CRISIS WHEN WE WERE AT THE
BORDER.
WHY AREN'T YOUR COLLEAGUES
ADDRESSING THIS?
DO YOU THINK ANYTHING CAN GET
DONE, FIRST, WITHIN THIS TWO
WEEKS THAT THE PRESIDENT IS
GIVING THEM TO ATTACK THESE
LOOPHOLES OR JUST ALL YEAR?
>> THE TRUTH IS, MARIA, THEY
DON'T WANT TO GET ANYTHING DONE.
THE DEMOCRATS USE THE RACE BAIT.
THEY'RE ONLY USING THIS FOR
IDENTITY POLITICS.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO PEOPLE OF
HISPANIC DESCENT, AND THEN
THEY'RE SAYING ALL OF YOU GUYS,
WE'RE HELPING ALL OF YOU.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE BAD, TRUMP
IS BAD.
THEY'RE TRYING TO DEMONIZE
TRUMP.
IF YOU WATCH THE LANGUAGE AND
THE RHETORIC THAT COMES FROM THE
LEFT, IT'S SCARY REALLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY OVER
TIME PEOPLE OF HISPANIC DESCENT
WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE
DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY USING THEM.
THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY TRYING TO
HELP THEM.
IF THEY WERE TRYING TO HELP
THEM, THEY WOULD HAVE PASSED A
BILL ALREADY.
I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT PLENTY OF
VOTES.
THEY COULD DO A BILL THAT WOULD
HAVE BORDER SECURITY, THEY COULD
PUT IN SOME PERMIT SYSTEMS, THEY
COULD TAKE CARE OF ALL THE KIDS
THAT WERE BROUGHT HERE BY NO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN.
AND BY THE WAY, THOSE ARE ALL
THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP WANTS
TO DO TOO, IT'S THAT DONALD
TRUMP SAYS, HEY, I'LL DO ALL OF
THAT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO HAVE A
WALL SO THAT WE HAVE LONG-TERM,
LASTING SECURITY ON OUR SOUTHERN
BORDER.
MARIA: SO GO THROUGH THESE
LOOPHOLES AND TELL US
SPECIFICALLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE
CHANGED, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
THERE'S ONE LOOPHOLE THAT
BASICALLY IS CATCH AND RELEASE,
WE CATCH YOU AT THE BORDER, AND
WE PROCESS IT, AND WE HAVE TO
LET YOU OUT.
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE
DETENTION CENTERS ARE ALL
OVERWHELMED, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER
SEAT IN THE HOUSE FOR ANYBODY.
>> YEAH.
OF SO THE EASIEST WAY, IN MY
OPINION, TO FIX ALL OF THIS IS
THAT YOU PUT IN A PERMIT SYSTEM.
SO YOU PUT IN A SYSTEM WHERE IF
SOMEBODY IS EMPLOYING YOU, YOU
HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY
FILE WITH THE GOVERNMENT WHAT'S
CALLED E-VERIFY.
FINISH IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM
NOW, IT'S WORKED REALLY, REALLY
WELL.
AND, OR YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS IF
EVERYBODY WAS CERTIFIED BY THE
GOVERNMENT, THAT EVERYBODY
WORKING FOR YOU IS, IN FACT,
HERE ON A LEGAL PERMIT, THAT IN
THE LONG RUN IS GREAT.
NOW, YOU CAN'T IS HAVE THAT
WITHOUT A PERMIT SYSTEM BECAUSE
EVERYONE KNOWS IN THIS COUNTRY
WE'VE GOT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
THAT ARE HERE ON EITHER EXPIRED
PERMITS, OR THEY NEVER HAD A
PERMIT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE
WORKERS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT
WANT TO DO JOBS THAT, IN MANY
CASES, ARE QUITE SKILLED, RIGHT?
WHETHER IT'S WORKING IN
AGRICULTURE WHICH NOW IS REALLY,
YOU NEED TECHNOLOGY, YOU NEED
PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO DRIVE
COMPLICATED EQUIPMENT ALL THE
WAY TO REALLY SMART PEOPLE THAT
ARE DEVELOPING THE NEXT
GENERATION USING MATH AND
SCIENCE AND DEVELOPING THE NEXT
GENERATION OF COMPUTER
TECHNOLOGY.
WE WANT ALL THESE PEOPLE TO BE
IN THE COUNTRY, WE WANT THEM TO
BE ON A PERMIT SYSTEM.
AND IF YOU DO THAT ALONG WITH
THE WALL, YOU TAKE CARE OF THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, IT'S
REALLY AN EASY SOLUTION, AND I
DON'T WANT TO ACT LIKE IT'S
EASIER THAN IT IS, BUT COMPARE
THE TECHNOLOGY TODAY ALLOWS US
TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY
PROVEN THAT THIS E-VERIFY SYSTEM
WORKS WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE
VOLUNTARILY BEEN TAKING PART IN
IT.
MARIA: NOW, WE ALREADY LET IN,
WHAT, A MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR IN
A LEGAL WAY.
THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, GET
THE GREEN CARD, ETC.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE ON THE ILLEGAL
SIDE OF THE LEDGER A MILLION
APPREHENSIONS WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT LIKELY THIS YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT VICE PRESIDENT MIKE
PENCE TOLD ME JUST A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO.
IS SO, I MEAN, DO THEY THINK
THAT IT'S OKAY TO JUST HAVE A
MILLION PEOPLE COMING IN EVERY
YEAR IN AN ILLEGAL WAY AND JUST
CONTINUING TO FLOOD THE COUNTRY
WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY?
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE ANSWER WHEN
YOU RAISE ALL OF THIS?
>> IT GOES TO WHAT I SAID.
THERE'S ONLY ONE ANSWER.
THE ANSWER IS, IS THAT THEY
DON'T CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEM.
THEY ARE USING IDENTITY POLITICS
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SAY IF
YOU'RE OF HISPANIC DESCENT IN
THIS COUNTRY, VOTE FOR US, THE
DEMOCRATS.
THAT'S ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?
BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY JUST
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THESE
PEOPLE, AND WE KNOW IT BECAUSE
THEY DON'T HAVE A BILL.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> THEY HAVE NO LEGISLATION.
THEY HAVE NOTHING.
THEY'RE IN CONTROL, THEY'VE GOT
PLENTY OF VOTES.
THEY DON'T EVEN NEED A
REPUBLICAN VOTE TO PASS THIS.
ALL OF THEM CLAIM THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO GIVE AMNESTY TO ALL OF
THEM.
SO,OF I'M BACK NOW WITH CONGRESM
SO,OF I'M BACK NOW WITH CONGRESN
NUÑES TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT
LETTER HE SENT.
TELL ME ABOUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY
YOU ARE WAITING ON, CONGRESSMAN,
IN TERMS OF THIS LETTER THAT YOU
SENT TO CHRISTOPHER WRAY ON
FRIDAY.
>> WELL, WE'VE LEARNED IN THE
LAST MONTH THAT THERE WAS
INFORMATION THAT THE NUMBER TWO
PERSON IN THE EUROPEAN AFFAIRS
DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE
DEPARTMENT -- AND IF YOU RECALL,
WE'VE LONG BEEN LOOKING AT THE
STATE DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR ANY
INFORMATION THE STATE DEPARTMENT
HAD ON CHRISTOPHER STEELE OR
ANYTHING INVOLVED IN THIS RUSSIA
HOAX.
SO THAT INFORMATION WE NOW KNOW
THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD THAT IN
2016.
SO THE STATE DEPARTMENT, IN
OCTOBER OF 2016, E-MAILS WENT TO
FBI SAYING THINGS LIKE THAT
CHRISTOPHER STEELE WAS NOT
BELIEVABLE, THAT HE WANTED TO,
HE WANTED TO BRING THIS OUT
BEFORE THE ELECTION.
THAT SHOULD BE A BIG RED FLAG.
ALSO SAID THAT THE SO-CALLED
RUSSIA HOAX, THE OPERATION
AGAINST TRUMP WITH TRUMP, THAT
TRUMP WAS A PART OF, WAS BEING
RUN OUT OF THE RUSSIAN CONSULATE
IN MIAMI.
WELL, IT ENDS UP, GUESS WHAT?
THERE IS NO RUSSIAN CONSULATE IN
MIAMI.
SO THIS NUMBER TWO PERSON AT THE
STATE DEPARTMENT INFORMED THE
FBI OF THESE CONCERNS.
NOW, WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A NUMBER OF
REASONS, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST,
THE FISA COURT SHOULD HAVE HAD
THIS.
THE FBI HAD IT, THE FISA COURT
SHOULD HAVE HAD IT BEFORE THEY
WENT AND SPIED ON THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN BY GETTING A WARRANT ON
CARTER PAGE.
ANOTHER REASON WHY THIS IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE FBI IS BECAUSE
THE CONGRESS, UNDER REPUBLICAN
CONTROL LAST TIME, ASKED FOR THE
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ON
CHRISTOPHER STEELE.
CHEERILY, IF WE WOULD HAVE --
CLEARLY, IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD
THIS TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO
WHEN WE STARTED THIS
INVESTIGATION, WE WOULD BE IN A
MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE TODAY THAN
WE ARE.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> SO, BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY
OBSTRUCTING A CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATION.
SO SOMEONE AT THE FBI DETERMINED
TO HIDE THIS INFORMATION, NOT
PROVIDE IT TO COURT, AND WHAT
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT
PROVIDE IT TO U.S. CONGRESS.
SO THEY HAVE TIL FRIDAY TO GET
IT TO US, AND IF THEY DON'T, WE
WILL MAKE OUR NINTH CRIMINAL
REFERRAL.
BASICALLY, WE WON'T KNOW EXACTLY
WHO AT THE FBI OBSTRUCTED
JUSTICE, BUT -- DURHAM OR THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE
THERE'S E-MAILS THAT WENT
AROUND, AND SOMEBODY DECIDED NOT
TO GIVE IT TO CONGRESS.
MARIA: YEAH.
WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT THE
INFORMATION THAT YOU REQUESTED
FROM DIRECTOR WRAY, AND YOU
WRITE IN THE LETTER THE DATE
THAT THE FBI WAS INFORMED ABOUT
THE TRANSMISSION OF INFORMATION
FROM KATHLEEN KAVALEC INCLUDING
THE INFORMATION NOW KNOWN AS THE
STEELE DOSSIER.
SHE WAS THE NUMBER TWO PERSON AT
THE FBI -- AT THE STATE
DEPARTMENT IN EUROPE, AND SHE
BASICALLY RAISES HER HAND,
RAISES A RED FLAG ABOUT THE
STEELE DOSSIER.
SHE DOES HER DUE DILIGENCE.
SHE SAYS, LOOK, THIS IS NOT
TRUSTWORTHY, CHRISTOPHER
STEELE'S WORK IS NOT CREDIBLE,
AND THAT MEMO FROM KAVALEC IS
NOT SHOWN TO FISA COURT.
THIS WAS EXCULL A PA STORY
EVIDENCE THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED.
DO YOU THINK THAT THE FISA JUDGE
MAY HAVE REACTED DIFFERENTLIED
HAD HE KNOWN THAT THERE WERE
STATE DEPARTMENT PEOPLE WHO WERE
SAYING THIS INFORMATION IS NOT
CREDIBLE RATHER THAN JUST
HANDING OVER A WARRANT TO
WIRETAP ON CARTER PAGE?
>> I THINK ALL AMERICANS SHOULD
BE FURIOUS AT THIS, RIGHT?
SO ON ONE HAND, WE NOW KNOW FOR
SURE THAT SOMEONE AT THE FBI
KEPT THIS FROM THE COURT.
NUMBER TWO,ING THEY ALSO KEPT
THIS FROM CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATORS, MEANING THE
REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE BEEN
INVESTIGATING THIS FOR TWO AND A
HALF YEARS.
AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
INFORMATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF
TIMES AMERICANS ARE JUST
BECOMING TONE DEAF TO THIS
BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE ONE
GRENADE AFTER ANOTHER.
IT'S, LIKE, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE
HAVE TO SEE THIS RUSSIA HOAX,
HOW BAD IT WAS AND HOW REALLY
WHAT YOU SEE -- I THINK THE ONLY
WAY TO DEFINE THIS, MARIA, IS WE
HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE POSSESSED
IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT CONTINUE
TO PERPETUATE THIS RUSSIA HOAX.
WHETHER IT'S IGNORING IMPORTANT
INFORMATION LIKE IN THAT KAVALEC
HAD, WHETHER IT'S CONTINUING TO
SAY, OH, MY GOSH, BRINGING IN
HOPE HICKS AND PRETEND THAT
SOMETHING REALLY WAS WRONG HERE,
THAT TRUMP REALLY WAS COLLUDING
WITH RUSSIANS.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF
THIS, RIGHT?
THE ONLY THING THEY HAD ON
RUSSIANS WAS THE STEELE DOSSIER,
RIGHT?
THOSE ARE THEIR RUSSIANS.
GUESS WHAT?
THEY'RE FAKE?
THEY'RE PHONY, THEY'RE RUSSIANS
THAT ONLY THE DEMOCRATS KNEW
ABOUT.
M YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS UP.
SO I DON'T KNOW OF A BETTER TERM
TO USE THAN YOU HAVE THE
DEMOCRATS IN THIS CITY, IN
WASHINGTON, D.C., THE MEDIA FOR
THE MOST PART, 90% OF THEM ARE
POSSESSED INDIVIDUALS.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> AND THE SAD PART ABOUT IT IS
THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY ARE POISONING AND HAVE BEEN
POISONING THE MINDS OF
AMERICANS, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS
FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW,
AND THE WORST IS THEY'RE NOT
STOPPING.
MARIA: RIGHT.
>> THEY'RE NOT STOPPING, AND
THAT'S THE CONCERN.
MARIA: NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I MEAN, NOW HOLLYWOOD'S GETTING
INVOLVEED AS WELL, YOU KNOW?
ROBERT DeNIRO'S GOING
ABSOLUTELY LUNATIC ON EVERYBODY
WITH THIS STUFF TOO.
WE'VE COVERED THIS A LOT.
DO YOU THINK -- WHAT DOES YOUR
GUT TELL YOU?
DID THEY JUST MAKE IT UP?
I MEAN, DID THEY JUST -- THEY
KNEW RUSSIA WAS TRYING TO
UNDERMINE THE WEST FOR DECADES,
AND THEY JUST INSERTED DONALD
TRUMP IN THERE?
>> WELL, I THINK IT GETS TO
HEART -- LET ME JUST GET TO
HEART OF WHAT WE HAVE YET TO
ANSWER THAT I HOPE THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CAN ANSWER
UNDER THE U.S. ATTORNEY OUT OF
CONNECTICUT, AND THAT IS THIS:
THERE WERE TWO PARALLEL
OPERATIONS THAT WERE RUNNING AT
THE SAME TIME THAT THE I BELIEVE
STARTED IN LATE 2015, EARLY
2016.
ONE IS THE FBI WAS RUNNING AN
INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN.
NOT IN JULY OF '16 LIKE THEY
SAID, THEY'RE LYING ABOUT THAT.
IT CLEARLY STARTS IN 2015 OR
EARLY 2016.
AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY RUNNING AN
OPERATION HAVING THEIR BAG MEN,
FUSION GPS, THEY'RE BOTH RUNNING
AN INVESTIGATION ON A PARALLEL
TRACK.
THE THING THAT WE DON'T KNOW
THAT WE NEED TO GET TO BOTTOM OF
IS WHEN DID THOSE TRACKS BECOME
ONE AND THE SAME.
WHEN, YOU KNOW, WERE THERE
PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING
TOGETHER WITH THE FBI AND FUSION
GPS AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN?
WE KNOW THEY, WE KNOW AT SOME
POINT THEY KNEW ABOUT
CHRISTOPHER STEELE.
MY GUESS IS THEY KNEW THIS A
LONG -- EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS,
PROBABLY AT LEAST JANUARY,
FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 2016 --
MARIA: YEAH.
>> AND SO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IT'S BANANA REPUBLIC STUFF.
IT'S STUFF THAT YOU ONLY SEE IN
COUNTRIES THAT WE WOULD NEVER
WANT TO LIVE IN.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> WHERE THE INTELLIGENCE OUTER
WORKS WITH A POLITICAL PARTY AND
PUTS THE OTHER CAMPAIGN UNDER
INVESTIGATION --
MARIA: UNBELIEVABLE.
>> -- FOR THE VERY THING THAT
THEY'RE DOING.
MARIA: YEAH, UNBELIEVABLE.
IT'S SO EXTRAOR
MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
WE ARE BACK WITH CONGRESSMAN
DEVIN NUÑES.
CONGRESSMAN, BEFORE WE GET INTO
IRAN -- AND ALSO I WANT TO GET
YOUR THOUGHTS ON CHINA -- LET ME
ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR LAWSUITS
AGAINST MEDIA.
YOU HAVE SUED TWITTER AS WELL AS
McCLATCHY.
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> WELL, THE TWITTER ONE IS
IMPORTANT, WE START THE
DISCOVERY PROCESS TOMORROW THE,
SO WE WILL BE SENDING OUT A
BUNCH OF SUBPOENAS AND ASKING
FOR INFORMATION FROM ALL THE
FOLKS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN
ALLOWING TWITTER TO NOT ONLY
DEVELOP CONTENT, BUT ALSO SHADOW
BAN ME SO YOUR VIEWERS AND
AMERICANS COULDN'T SEE MY TWEETS
FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG.
SO I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THIS
FOR THE NEXT ELECTION WHETHER --
I CALL THEM TECH OLIGARCHS, IT
ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE
TIME IT'S THE CONSERVATIVES THAT
GET KICKED OFF, AND YOU CAN'T
SEE OUR PLATFORMS, OR YOU CAN'T
SEE US ON THEIR PLATFORM WHERE
THE LEFT, THEY GET AWAY WITH
MURDER.
IS SO THAT'S THIS DISCOVERY
PROCESS ON TWITTER STARTS
TOMORROW AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE
MORE LAWSUITS THAT ARE ON THE
WAY.
AND I HATE TO BE HAVING TO DO
THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY THE ONLY
WAY THAT THIS CAN, THAT THIS
PROBLEM CAN BE FIXED.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T,
CONSERVATIVES, I THINK, ARE
GOING TO BE DOOMED IN FUTURE
ELECTIONS BECAUSE ALL OF THESE
TECH COMPANIES ARE AGAINST US U.
AND I THINK REPUBLICANS AND
CONSERVATIVES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS AND
NEED TO TAKE ACTION NOW.
THE ONLY REMEDY WE HAVE IS THE
COURT.
MARIA: ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT
TWITTER WILL TRY TO INFLUENCE
THE ELECTION IN 2020 BY DOING
WHATEVER THEY CAN, LIKE SHADOW
BANNING --
>> MARIA, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING
IT.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT.
I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR WHAT THEY'VE
DONE TO ME IS RIDICULOUS, WHAT
THEY CONTINUE TO DO TO OTHERS.
YOU SEE PEOPLE GETTING KICKED
OFF OF TWITTER FOR NOTHING.
YOU SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING
AT FACEBOOK.
90 PLUS PERCENT OF ALL THE
SEARCHES GO THROUGH GOOGLE.
WE KNOW THAT GOOGLE'S BEEN
ACTUALLY BLOCKING E-MAILS FROM
GOING OUT.
SO, LOOK, THERE'S GOING TO BE A
NUMBER --
MARIA: IS THAT ILLEGAL?
IS IT ILLEGAL, CONGRESSMAN?
>> WELL, IT'S, IT DEPENDS ON IF
THERE'S, IF YOU CAN PROVE IT IN
COURT, RIGHT?
SO IT TAKES PEOPLE THAT ARE
WILLING TO STEP UP AND TAKE
THESE COMPANIES ON, WHICH I'M
WILLING TO DO NOT BECAUSE I WANT
TO DO IT, BUT BECAUSE IT HAS TO
BE DONE.
BECAUSE IN THE LONG RUN, WE
CAN'T COMPETE WITH, IF SOCIAL
MEDIA'S TOTALLY AGAINST THE
CONSERVATIVES AND THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
MARIA: THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT
MEDIA COMPANIES.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE LEGISLATION
THAT PUTS THEM UNDER THE
UMBRELLA OF MEDIA COMPANIES?
>> LOOK, I THINK THE COURTS -- I
MEAN, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS
THAT TWITTER AND THESE
COMPANIES, THEY'RE CONTENT
DEVELOPERS.
YOU KNOW, THEY CLAIM TO BE,
OKAY, WE'RE JUST AN OPEN PUBLIC
SQUARE, WE TREAT EVERYBODY
EQUALLY.
WELL, THEY DON'T TREAT EVERYBODY
EQUALLY.
IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.
AND SO WHAT I WANT IS I WANT MY
DAY IN COURT TO GO BEFORE A
JUDGE AND A JURY TO EXPLAIN HOW
IT IS THAT TWITTER TREATS
CONSERVATIVES DIFFERENTLY THAN
THE LEFT.
MARIA: OKAY.
>> AND MAYBE, PERHAPS IF THEY
HAVE TO PAY AND IF WE HAVE TO
OPEN YOU ARE THEIR BOOKS AND
LOOK AT ALL THEIR ALGORITHMS,
MAYBE WE CAN FIX THAT.
IF NOT, MAYBE THEY HAVE TO BE
BROKEN APART.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
MARIA: AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A
COURT DATE FOR THE END OF AUGUST
ON THIS.
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
MARIA: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT IRAN
BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE'S
GOING TO PUT NEW SANCTIONS ON
IRAN TOMORROW.
YOU WERE IN THE SITUATION ROOM,
YOU GOT THE BRIEFING ON IRAN.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?
>> WELL, THE THING THAT I
THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT TO TAKE
AWAY FROM THAT IS THIS WAS THE
FIRST TIME IN MY TIME BEING
INVOLVED IN NATIONAL SECURITY
ISSUES THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, RIGHT, AND I'VE
SERVED UNDER I GUESS NOW THREE
PRESIDENTS, GEORGE W. BUSH,
BARACK OBAMA AND NOW DONALD
TRUMP.
HE BROUGHT IN ALL THE LEADERS
FROM HOUSE AND SENATE THAT ARE
ON NOT ONLY THE NATIONAL
SECURITY COMMITTEES, BUT THE
LEADERSHIP OF BOTH HOUSES OF
BOTH PARTIES.
AND HE TALKED TO US.
HE TALKED TO ALL OF US.
AND I THINK'S WHAT YOU WANT TO
SEE IN A LEADER.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING
AT ALL IN THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION.
SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT HOW THIS
PRESIDENT IS GROWING, HOW HE
WANTS TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS.
AND, LOOK, HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO
TO WAR, AND I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO WORK WITH
THE CONGRESS TO MAKE GOOD
DECISIONS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE'S
THE GUY WHO IS THE LEADER.
BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE
HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND THE CONGRESS BEHIND
HIM IF HE'S GOING TO TAKE ANY
ACTIONS AGAINST --
MARIA: DOES HE HAVE THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY'S
SUPPORT?
DO WE HAVE ALLIES AGAINST IRAN?
>> YEAH, AND THAT'S THE OTHER
THING THAT HE CAN TAKE THIS TIME
TO DO.
HE DECIDED NOT TO DO A SMALL, A
SMALL STRIKE.
HE'S NOW, I THINK, GOING TO PUT
ON SANCTIONS TOMORROW,
ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS.
HOPEFULLY, HE CAN BRING MORE
ALLIES ONBOARD TO SUPPORT OUR,
TO SUPPORT GOING AGAINST THE
IRANIAN REGIME.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY I
CAN TELL YOU THIS --
MARIA: ALL RIGHT.
>> -- PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT