director Tim Miller talks about the failure of terminator dark fate we've
got to talk about this! what's up everybody today I'm here to talk about
Tim Miller and he's well the failure of terminator dark fates so he's been
talking about it he also reviewed that he had some fights with James Cameron's
of course now the movie bombed they come with all these stupid excuses to why it
failed which is just right in your face why this was this was going to fail
first and foremost you took a character that you made us care and then you
basically took a crap all over this character and then you gave the story of
this character to a female and then you paint the movie as female empowerment
because people are so stupid they're not going to see the difference and that is
why this movie failed but they don't seem to see that you know they don't
seem to understand that because Hollywood people leave in their own
bubble and they have no touch with reality or with the real world because
seriously if you don't know why this movie failed I don't know what to say to
you first and foremost I've already said on to rent reviews pretty much that the
problem with this film is not the female lead characters per se it's not that
it's what they did to the original character in order to make this female
be the leader that is the main problem and also the other problem with this
film and that is encourages people this is all about empowerment you guys you
know should be on board with this because this is important people you
know we need one of this you know who cares about storytelling you know who
cares about the original story you know let's just recycle everything and give
it to the female because that's what we need right now anyways
so first and foremost now his excuses you know Tim Miller's excuses is that he
did not have all control over the film you know so that's one of the things he
said to me it doesn't make any sense first he
was already kind of attacking the fence before the movie even came out saying
that this movie was going to you know what did he say it was going to scare
the F out of the internet trolls the misogynist that don't like female
characters I mean when has that even happened you know there's so many
awesome female led films that made so much money clearly that is not the
problem but know these people like I said they either day like they just need
to get out of their own bird bubble so he said the Terminator dark fate
director Tim Miller opened up about the movie's disappointment box office in an
interview with Kim master the editor of Hollywood Reporter Miller said that he
could write a book about why the movie didn't work and that he's processing the
flop I mean how delusional do you have to be to believe that by spoiler alert
killing your main character at the very beginning I mean you're not you're not
Hitchcock sorry but not only that you made sure that we understood that this
character was important because in the future he would help humanity I mean how
how can you imagine that killing that character would not affect everybody
else it just doesn't make any sense and these
people even understand storytelling I am baffled he said he couldn't control
whether audiences were turned off by past lackluster Terminator sequels could
as well which box-office expert have suggested one reason the movie sync I
agree with this reason I agree that people have been burned many times
because the other Terminator films were also pretty disappointing even though I
even think that Terminator 3 was okay you know and it's not supposed to be
okay it's supposed to be awesome it's supposed to be amazing supposed to be
legendary no it's not Terminator Salvation was probably the
most innovative of all of them because he goes all the way in the future and
shows us a little bit of the future war but it was also a movie that in
like that had probably Pacey they didn't really do a good job in continuing the
story and then you have Genesis which is kind of a soft reboot which is also a
major which already shows it's not a good thing in friend already made what
John Connor was the villain in that filming it already didn't work so if
John Connor didn't work there let's just kill him off maybe that will work
I agree people were being tired of bad films so perhaps they were turned off
that's written one reason second I think is the marketing of the film that
clearly shows we don't care about John Connor anymore we just care about female
empowerment because that's what the story is about you know who you know
I've already said many times the problem are not the female characters but the
story is really terrible and especially what they did to Sarah Connor it's
unforgivable in my opinion okay she was enough she was awesome she was
you know she was one of my heroes until you actually make her be a drunk that's
what she does she drinks until she passes out she's also regretted
motherhood you know because all she was was a womb you know not the fact she was
not badass because she killed the Terminator no because she was the mother
of John Connor all of this stuff is just whatever and then we have continued here
he also described this agreement with the producer James Cameron and how he
felt obligated to fight for his creative vision so let's check and see what else
is is saying here terminator back fateful night James Cameron Linda
Hammond till our nut shots and Egger to little fanfare since D building in the
theaters earlier this month dark fate has made 235 million worldwide and 185
million production budget which means it's very bad it needs to make way more
in order to pay for its production it will most likely top out in the coming
weeks so maybe yes maybe not I doubt it word of mouth is very bad even though
some people I believe people that are not into the franchise might find that
as a fun film because if you're not into the characters you might like it I even
thought the action itself was quite entertaining my biggest issue with the
film was just what they did to John Connor and with in my opinion is a
disrespect to franchise because mainly telling you Terminator 1 & 2
doesn't matter Kyler's ease and whatever you know sacrifice he made doesn't
matter John Connor who care about John Connor doesn't matter let's just go for
it and that's why I don't like these films because if this is supposed to be
a sequel why do you have to destroy what came before you know again same story
all over again it's disappointing result considering
receive far better reviews than the previous installments okay blah blah
blah blah blah blah let's go down the dark faith director opened up about the
movies disappointment to The Hollywood Reporter the things they seem to hate
the most about the movie where things I can't control I mean you can't control I
mean did you have to kill John Connor at the beginning Miller said I can't
control if you didn't like Genesis or you felt betrayed by t4 I can't help
that so now he's blaming the other films okay so taking all the responsibilities
from him it's not about destroying John Connor around we're aware but that's
continuing Miller also acknowledged that he was at odds with camera on some
creative choices Cameron who direct the first two terminators the only
terminators account returned to the franchise a producer on dark fate Miller
said he felt an obligation to fight for his vision because that is what the
director is supposed to do Miller explained one of those arguments with
Cameron in an interview in Business Insider earlier this month it was to
disagreed on the two disagreed on the time-travel elements in the movie and
that Miller eventually got his way because Cameron's ideas wouldn't have
made sense to the plot I mean if he got his way why is he still blaming Cameron
it's to flopped Miller told masters that he was unlikely to work with Cameron
again so now he's blaming James Cameron I'm actually disappointed James Cameron
too because apparently their idea of killing John Connor came from him it has
nothing to do with whatever trauma I have from the experience Miller said ah
it's more that I just don't want to be in situation again where I don't have
control to do what I think it's right Cameron told deadlines in August the
dark fate could launch a new Terminator trilogy they've been trying to do that
every scene salvation and then Genesis and it just
doesn't work because Terminator either is not supposed to be a franchise it's
done on Terminator 2 or we need people with more talent with more creativity to
bring the story forward and it's just baffled me that nobody is able to
accomplish that because all they want to do nowadays you know is you know kill
beloved characters right because I mean who didn't love John Connor and that
little kid that we followed the journey he was so important you know it was like
we we the the movie keeps you in the edge of your seat oh my god this little
boy needs everything was about saving him because he was very important for
the future and then this movie just comes and it raises everything and Wow
we were so powerful that it didn't do well why did you think people didn't
want to go see it well because it was pretty clear that it was going into that
direction I was actually blind to it you know I
gave you know I like to judge things for what they are I was even willing to go
there and see John Connor being killed if it made sense to the story but for me
it didn't it was basically done and a very beginning of the movie so he is out
of the way and I think that is very disrespectful and I'm actually glad that
the movie bombed so it will stop there and I don't have to consider this as
canon what makes me sad it's for irony because I thought he was great and also
Linda hemmed I thought both of them had great chemistry what makes me also said
is for the rest of the people that worked hard in the film you know I I
know how filmmaking is I know how hard it is but it is not their fault the
fault is the writers you know the people that put this movie together that again
do not have I mean they should have known better okay but anyways guys I
just wanted to talk about Tim Miller and his excuses because that's what people
do in Hollywood they never assume responsibilities for that mistakes you
know it's very rare that a director comes forth and say I messed up you know
there was the wrong choice no we need to blame the audience we need to know blame
someone or blame James Cameron or whatever because we cannot take
responsibilities of favor whatever failure happens the
same situation with charlie angels right then Elizabeth Banks just said the man
is to blame you know because of this culture that man doesn't support female
lead characters I mean that's another you can check out my other video where I
dig in into that situation with Elizabeth Banks as well anyways guys
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