think both of us he's definitely got more brains than me I think we've established that from school
but when it comes to all that I think and I'm much better boldness sorry when you find the future
it's pretty rich coming from a ginger so I'm quite happy to
uh he's a good looking Ginger sorry Peter's both
thank you
how much of a struggle has it been um I think the the struggle that I was talking about was
mainly the exams and stuff like that I mean when you saw for the helicopter course you start with
something like four or five weeks of ground school and exams um exam's never been my
favorite and I always knew that I was going to find it harder than most people
um but I'm through that now and finally got Hands-On to uh to a job that I absolutely
adore it is still hard work but um but I'm better than willing so it's fine yeah I've
been helping him with the exactly yeah an awful lot he needs a lot of help so yeah it's the RF
ways you have to help the Army out quite a lot I mean does it come down to sort of mental math
test uh yeah a little bit of that you know future questions trying to catch them out seven eight
yeah it's actually a lot of that I bet you couldn't answer that one over the years but Harry
seriously is it for you is this fundamentally and crucially about getting back to the front line
um it is I've always had a love for helicopters um I've always wanted to be a pilot mainly of
helicopters more than fixed Wing even though it's like under the impression that fixed ring
is probably using the helicopters especially these things aren't designed to fly but um I'm really
enjoying it and you know as everyone knows it is my easiest way of getting back onto the front line
um and maybe say for maybe not safer I don't know um but there's a bit of pressure from from certain
places which I'm sure you're aware of of the reasons why I'm allowed to go back and if I do
go back then apparently I can't do the same job as I had so I'm looking somewhere different and
what more of a challenge is to try and become a helicopter was it made pretty clear to you after
the last time in Afghanistan that it would be your first and last time that it was too risky
for you to go back as a soldier more the fact that I think the media had said that they would never
keep their mouths shut if I went and did the same job so I'd have to do something different
if I wanted to go yes but you are a hopeful confident and passionate that you do get back
by this means that you get back to the front line massively so unless they stop throwing helicopters
out in Afghanistan soon which hopefully they won't do but you know as I said I love flying
helicopters or I'm loving flying helicopters at the moment I just hope that I can be better
than better than the best you know that's why I always strive to be to be you know spot on but
you know as I said to go to Afghanistan again would be fantastic and my best chance is to
be the helicopter is to do it from a helicopter off the ground yeah sorry you go off the ground
Harry what do you hope to fly you you Apache links gazelle I'm a bit of a lynx lover um since I've
started this course uh I shouldn't have really said that I should be selling the Apache I know I
love the Apache and as everyone does I don't think you'd hear anyone say bad things about Apache
um brain capacity I don't know if I've got it for the Apache um but you never know that
until halfway through the course when actually they judge you on it but if I had pers if I got
personal preference I would probably choose links for the simple fact that the instructors I've had
so far have been linked pilots and I think links is a more challenging so there's more
it's more my cup of tea than Apache that's how I feel but that my opinion may change halfway
through but it's your goal to be back there in Afghanistan in a links in maybe a year's time
um when they when they let me and when I'm when I'm good enough so it could be about five years
time but um yeah I just I just I'll fly whatever I'm told to fly and I'll fly wherever I'm taught
to fly just it's quite a special movie from Tuesday this is possibly the last time you
will be living together first and last time we'll be living together oh sure it's been it's been a
fairly emotional experience yeah how much into service rivalry is there between you two none at
all no not until really I mean everyone everyone knows the Army as well anyway so it's uh it's fine
it's obviously as well and they never fight it's just you know in the background they didn't do
anything so it's fine how would you live together again you know much experience being insane well
bear in mind I cook him and feed him basically every day I think he's uh he's done rather well
told us the other week that he did all the washing out he does do a bit of washing up then he leaves
most of it in the sink and then it comes back in the morning and I have to brush it out oh the lies
plenty of tidying up after him or tidying he snores a lot as well keeps me out all night
long no I don't know I think that's very important we say that and so it's his birthday on Sunday um
are you a bit nervous letting any presents you want Tom your friends basically he's probably
only literally just realized that you said that now and uh and hasn't got me present but
I wouldn't expect anything else anyway it's uh I'll be lucky to get a card it's a little bits
that he's growing older experience so far um both of us really enjoyed actually it's been
um it's been good fun we've we've mostly been stuck on base so we haven't really managed to
get out and Sample the Delights of shrews drilling but been into town a few times enjoyed watching
um Shrewsbury do quite well in the playoffs unfortunately didn't manage the last final bit
but uh yeah it's been good we've really enjoyed it I haven't had much chance to get out at the moment
so it's the art it's the Army we work harder so yeah we haven't got much time gag or gag move on
strawberry yeah strawberry yeah I do a lot yeah I
love flying around a lot of hours in the sky limits on what you can drink
it's tough enough to do a course like this on your own the whole world watching and a
high achieving older brother watching does it increase the pressure I don't know that's quite
Fair he's uh he's doing a fantastic job he puts himself down but generally he is seriously well
I've talked to his instructor and stuff like that he's doing a fantastic job so you know he's he's
just very modest about it he's doing very well I think I'm just on Saturday I think there's masses
of pressure on on everyone in the forces at the moment for a start um and you know we're both
here just doing doing our bit trying to become helicopter pilots and you know and we're having
a fantastic time yes it's hard work but you know everything is hard work nowadays um but oh yeah
sometimes it's out of pressure but you just deal with it you get on with it I mean the helicopter
course is a very strenuous course but he's managed to get through it but I reckon I can yeah I just
have something nice you consider very nice uh he's great at the end of the day though um it's
training and it's you know training is training and you're under pressure as long as you're being
taught and you're getting things right like he's you know you know pointed out is that the guys
are doing the operational stuff you know far more harder hours work non-stops for the night through
the day and they're the guys who get the real praise for everything that goes wrong one final
question guys you think you're over at the hump you were you were worried about the theory and
the exam work do you feel that with that behind you the rest is a piece of cake well I think both
of us he's definitely got more brains than me I think we've established that from school but when
it comes to all that I think and I'm much better boldness sorry when you find solo and when I'm
flying solo when I'm ready um hopefully sometime next week depending on the British weather um but
we'll have to wait and see but um yeah I know it's it's fantastic it really is yeah it's
[Laughter]
um it's been um I've moved offshore from the school because uh now being a far superior RF
pilot I've now moved on to the Griffin um and it's uh it's good fun you know I've got more of a crew
atmosphere so I got guys in the back and it's really good you're flying along you get these
random voices coming around you're not you can't even see and yeah it's like an easy hanging off
her skin yeah just random voices yeah but no it's giffon it's um it's quite a long way to go yet
before I'm finished but um I'm looking forward to you know the challenges ahead and flying so
important is for you to do something like well you actually are getting an operational world
because obviously there are certain constraints well yeah these constraints we always talk about
you know it's to me I didn't join the forces to be like I said a lot of times before Molly cuddled or
treated any different and as far as I'm concerned in my eyes if Harry can do it then I can do it I
don't really separate us from that much difference and I think as a future head of the Armed Forces
it's really important that I was you at least get the opportunity uh to be credible and to do
the job that I signed up for and to do the best I can and that's all I ever wanted to do and the
session rescue role is now you know slightly different so obviously being able to go to
Afghanistan but it's still doing an important job and I hope that it's yeah I hope it's a step in
the right direction exactly for future and you see this is kind of something for you for the coming
it's a it's a sort of probably at the moment a short maybe medium term
um you know sort of five years four years at the most I should have thought and then you
know we'll wait and see what happens after that should be hinting that an operational
role isn't an impossibility in my mind of course you talk to everyone else and
it's impossible but I still remain hopeful that yeah there's a chance okay thank you that's it
thank you very much