Van Jones has a new CNN show and he did
an interesting segment here where he spoke to
Obama voters who turned to trump in 2016
let's see what they had to say...
Trumbull county, farmland and factories dominate
the landscape and union Democrats
dominate local politics but over the
last 40 years well actually the last
four years especially Obama's
second-term industry has been hit hard
many steel mills, manufacturing plants
have been closed and thousands of jobs
have been lost
I'm invited to dinner with a family of
Trump supporters to talk politics.
Hello how are you? Scott Seitz is a lifelong Democrat
who voted for Obama
twice
Cameron, his only son who was old enough to
vote in the last election also supported Obama
This year all four Seitz men voted for Trump
What did you like about obama,
and then what did you like about Trump?
I think Obama represents a lot of love
and I think that he's a good man and he
did all he could and we supported him
for two elections
yeah and then when those changes really
didn't come about and Obamacare actually
affected me personally with my own
mother
I think we need to change once again
Trump seem to come through here and he
speaking change again so i think we
still voted for change. You want to get in here?
You know, I wouldn't vote for either one
So you voted for a Democrat all the way
But could not vote for Hillary Clinton
No, it was just her morals and his
morals, I just no
They both scared me. So let me give you guys a
chance to respond to some of the
stereotypes about all the Trump voters...
All Trump voters hate the Mexicans, they
hate Muslims, they don't like black
people they're just, there was the all of
his explosive kind of racial talk was
what really got everybody going.
One of my jobs is helping counseling
individuals recovering from drug and
alcohol addictions and I'm just going by
the statistics at my location
most of them are minorities, I would
probably go as far as to say eighty
eighty-five percent so you know what if
that were the case and if I was racist then
I just don't believe that I'd be very
good at my job but I'm not the stereotype
that individuals think we are.
So how does a billionaire, I mean you guys were
serious, like, the working-class backbone
of America and the industrial heartland
how does a billionaire break through
to the blue-collar worker?
We put democrats in office and she turned around and forgot
completely about us we are what makes
this world go round
We built the tanks and bombs that won
this country's wars and for you to
come through here and completely neglect
us we would have rather vote for, for
anybody instead of her and all the other
stuff that Donald said didn't seem to
make a hill of beans, she hurt us
and that's what it is.
What a racist, oh what a fucking misogynist
he sounds like he despises Muslims let me tell you
okay look I don't mean to be flippant
because the reality is sure there are
many Donald Trump supporters who did
vote for him because of those horrific
grotesque bigoted things he said I'm not
downplaying that all i'm saying is there
are other people who voted for him who
did not vote for him because of that
gross shit he said they voted for him
despite that they overlooked that and
thought exactly what he just said we
voted for change we voted for change with
Obama they voted for Obama twice but now
we voted for Trump why because he didn't
do anything for us and Trump's saying
i'm going to change things now
understand that's not the case for
everybody so yeah Obama did do things
for many people if you're somebody who had a
pre-existing condition and couldn't get
health care, health insurance now you
can
well yeah he made your life a lot better
if you were somebody who made a
forty-two thousand dollars a year and
Obama changed it so you now get
overtime pay and before you didn't he
affected your life for the better but if
you're somebody who's factory got
shut down and the jobs shipped
overseas under Obama and you know
meanwhile he's pushing for TPP and pushing
for even worse trade deals that would
make it so we lose even more jobs well
Obama didn't really help you on that front
now did he
So it's different things for different
people but the reality is
what they're saying is true it is
true that in the Rust Belt these
old factory towns they're struggling it
is true that the Democrats have used
these voters to get elected and then
haven't done dick for them and then that
leads to the next point he went on to
say "She completely forgot about us"
who can argue against that? I mean Bill
Clinton voted for NAFTA, she vocally
supported NAFTA, she pushed for TPP
45 times and called it the gold standard
so she's been in favor of most of these
free trade agreements and again that's
the heart of the issue for these people
so she did forget about them and then he
goes on to say the thing that hit home
the most for me is he says all the other
things that Trump said didn't seem to
amount to a hill of beans so in other
words all the time like when Trump said
TPP is gonna rape us and the media went
on for three days about he used the word
rape in an offensive context when they
ran the ads of him cursing, him
giving see CPAC speech and saying fuck
Him, you know, just being a general foul-mouthed
kind of dude and then they portray that as
How are you going to vote for him? How are you going to vote for him?
He uses bad language I don't know how you're going to vote for him...
He goes that didn't amount to anything to me
because that's bullshit fake outrage
we're struggling over here and this guy
went out there and at least pretended to
give a fuck where as Hillary Clinton
what was the, what was the central theme
of her campaign
what was it? Break down the barriers,
Stronger together, (Those are vague things)
and America is already great. So hold on
that's going to be your
counter argument when he says make
America great again you're gonna say
America is already great. What message does that send?
hey man America's already great so why
don't we just keep going on the same
path that we're going on right now and
just acknowledge how awesome it is
How is that message gonna resonate with somebody
whose life is in shambles because their
jobs got shipped overseas? They're gonna say
I certainly don't feel like America's already great!
So they are too caught up in their corporatist
Democratic elite bubble because they
look around everybody they know is doing
fantastic
they're doing really well, you know, under
Obama he's done many good things, I don't want
you guys to get me wrong here but, you
know their main indicator of how well
average Americans are doing are the
unemployment rate and the stock market
two of the worst indicators for how
average Americans are actually doing.
The stock market is a reflection of how the
richest of the rich Americans are doing
and the unemployment rate just tells you
fewer people are unemployed which is a
good thing but it's not the end-all
be-all because for example higher wage
jobs were replaced with lower-wage jobs
post the recession so though more people are employed
There are underemployed too there are people who are
underemployed so they're getting jobs
that are shitty jobs that they're not happy at
So that's not, these are not good indicators
but the Democrats were so
caught in their own elitist bubble they were like
But what do you mean, What do you want?
The fucking stock markets doing great,
all my rich buddies tell me they're doing
awesome and the unemployment rates down
so get over it, get get over it
We're better than Bush
Yeah you're better than Bush, that's not saying much!
That motherfucker gets a F minus-minus-minus
so what, you want a pat on the back for a D?
So understand man, if the Democrats want to ignore guys
like this
ok, keep losing, keep fucking losing
keep fucking losing by the way who's message
would resonate with a guy like this?
I wonder, if only there was another
Democrat in the race who actually gave a
shit about factory jobs and actually
gave a shit about infrastructure
and actually gave a shit about everybody in the country
There was
And the democrats did everything they could to make sure he didn't get the nomination
Because Hillary's more electable, Hillary's more electable
Hillary's more electable!
How the fuck did that work out for you
and now the same people who made the shitty
predictions then are the ones who are
trying to tell us which direction the
party should go in now
not on my watch bitch
not on my watch!