>> Shannon: WE ARE WAITING AND
WATCHING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GROWING TENSIONS TONIGHT BETWEEN
THE FORMER CIA DIRECTOR AND THE
FORMER FBI DIRECTOR ALL OVER
THAT UNVERIFIED AND SALACIOUS
DOSSIER.
OUR LEGAL EAGLES ARE HERE, THE
FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT HARRY
LITMAN.
WELCOME.
I WANT TO PLAY SOME ABOUT WHAT
RUSH LIMBAUGH HAD TO SAY TODAY
ABOUT THREE INVESTIGATIONS GOING
INTO THE ORIGINS OF WHAT
HAPPENED MIGHT HAVE BEEN
TONGUE-IN-CHEEK AND WE WILL LET
YOU DECIDE.
>> THE NEXT THING TO KEEP A
SHARP EYE OUT FOR AND THAT IS
PEOPLE FLEEING THE COUNTRY.
IF YOU SEE JAMES COMEY IN
ARGENTINA OR IF YOU SEEK JAMES
CLAPPER SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY
CAN'T BE EXTRADITED AND YOU WILL
KNOW THAT WE ARE GETTING CLOSE.
THESE PEOPLE START LEAVING, I'M
HALF-JOKING BECAUSE IT HASN'T
STARTED YET BUT THEY ARE
NERVOUS.
>> Shannon: HE SAYS I'M
HALF-JOKING BUT WHO DO YOU THINK
SHOULD BE MOST NERVOUS?
>> I THINK BOTH OF THEM SHOULD
BE NERVOUS.
BOTH THE FBI DIRECTOR AND THE
CIA DIRECTOR.
THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE OF THE
APPOINTMENT BY ATTORNEY GENERAL
BILL BARR OF THE U.S. ATTORNEY
AND CONNECTICUT TO TAKE A LOOK
AT ALL OF THIS AND THE REASON
WHY IS IF BILL BARR WHO IS NO
ANTI-DEEP STATE GUY, HE STARTED
IN THE CIA.
IF BILL BARR APPOINTED A U.S.
ATTORNEY THAT MEANS HE THINKS
THERE ARE SOME GROUNDS FOR A
CRIMINAL.
THERE IS ALREADY AN
INVESTIGATION WITHIN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WHICH YOU WOULD USE
IF YOU WANT TO REFORM THINGS
WERE CHANGED THE WAY YOU DID THE
WARRANTS BUT TO BRING IN OUTSIDE
ATTORNEY TO CONDUCT A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION SHOULD HAVE A LOT
OF PEOPLE WORRIED.
>> Shannon: WOULD UNDERSTAND
THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT
INVESTIGATIONS OF THE LATEST ONE
WITH JOHN DURHAM, WE ARE TOLD IT
HAS BEEN WEEKS SINCE HE HAS BEEN
ON THIS JOB.
IN THE MEANTIME YOU HAVE COMEY
AND BRANDON, WE ARE HEARING IS
THAT THEIR POINT OF THE FINGER,
IT WAS HIM, I DIDN'T WANT TO IT.
JIM JORDAN ONE OF THE
CONSERVATIVE G.O.P. FOLKS ON THE
HILL SAYS THIS "BOTH STORIES
CAN'T BE TRUE.
COMEY TOLD THE FBI THAT BRENNAN
INSISTED ON INCLUDING THE
DOSSIER IN THE ASSESSMENT BUT
CIA CLAIMS THAT COMEY MADE THE
RECOMMENDATION AND BRANDON
OBJECTED."
HOW DO YOU GET THIS?
>> THESE ARE TWO EXTREMELY
DIFFERENT THINGS.
WHAT HE IS LOOKING INTO AND WHAT
BILL BARR WANTS TO KNOW IS THE
ORIGINS OF THE PROBE UNTIL THE
STEELE DOSSIER MIGHT HAVE BEEN
USED IN THE APPLICATION AND BY
THE WAY TO YOUR POINT, HE HAS
SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST LOOKED
AT STICKY SITUATIONS AND IT
WASN'T CRIMINAL AND THERE IS
ALREADY A U.S. ATTORNEY LOOKING
AT THE SITUATION.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CRIMINAL
BUT THE BIG THING TO UNDERSTAND
IS, THE FINGER-POINTING IS
WHETHER THIS INFORMATION SHOULD
HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO TRUMP.
COMEY DATE APPARENTLY AND THAT
IS THE DISPUTE, HE DECIDED THAT
TRUMP SHOULD BE BRIEFED ON IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS A PRUDENT
THING TO DO GIVEN THE NATURE OF
THE ALLEGATIONS BUT IT'S
180 DEGREES DIFFERENT FROM THE
ONGOING DISPUTE ABOUT HOW IT WAS
USED IN THE WARRANT.
>> Shannon: AS WE ARE TRYING
TO BREAK THE SUPPORT AND OF
COURSE THE INVESTIGATORS WILL
HAVE PEOPLE HELPING THEM.
THE FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN TREY GOWDY
HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND
SAYS, YOU NEED TO LOOK BACK TO
THIS EMAIL THAT IS NOT PUBLIC
BUT IT'S AN EMAIL CHAIN THAT MAY
POINT US TO THE CLUES ON WHETHER
COMEY OR BRENNAN WAS WERE LYING
OR THINKING IT SHOULD BE PART OF
THIS ASSESSMENT.
DO YOU THINK WE THE PUBLIC GET A
LOOK AT THOSE EMAILS?
>> PROBABLY NOT.
THEY ARE PROBABLY PROTECTED BY
CLASSIFICATIONS, TOP-SECRET OR
HIGHER BUT MAY BE.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT AND I THINK
ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE ON THE SHOW
ARGUED THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
SHOULD JUST DECLASSIFY AS MUCH
AS POSSIBLE BEHIND ALL OF THIS.
BEHIND THE CONTINUING --
THIS IS DISTURBING, THE
CONTINUING RELIANCE ON THE
STEELE DOSSIER.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOVEMBER
AND DECEMBER OF 2016 AND THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT TRUMP COULD ALLOW
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE
OTHERWISE IT WILL STAY
CLASSIFIED.
>> Shannon: A FINAL WORD.
TO THINK HE DECLASSIFY IS
EVERYTHING AS HE SAID HE MIGHT?
>> PROBABLY NOT BUT IF HE
DECLASSIFY IS THIS WE WILL KNOW
IF IT WAS COMEY WHO SAID LET'S
SHOW THIS TO TRUMP.
OR BRENNAN, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM
WHAT THE U.S. ATTORNEY AND