THE SENATE TRIAL.
LET'S BRING IN KEN BUCK, HOUSE
JUDICIARY.
KEN, GREAT TO SEE YOU
CONGRESSMAN.
HOUSE DEMOCRATS THREATENING TO
CALL IMPEACHMENT WITNESSES
THEMSELVES IF THE SENATE DOES
NOT.
HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
>> I HAVE NO IDEA.
THEY OBVIOUSLY COULD CALL
WITNESSES INTO COMMITTEES, HAVE
OVERSIGHT HEARINGS, ASK THOSE
WITNESSES QUESTIONS THAT WOULD
BE ON THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER
BUT THIS IS CLEARLY A FISHING
EXPEDITION.
IF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS FELT SO
STRONGLY THEY COULD HAVE CALLED
THESE WITNESSES, THEY COULD HAVE
HAD THESE WITNESSES, COULD HAVE
GONE THROUGH THE COURT
PROCEEDINGS TO FORCE THE
WITNESSES TO TESTIFY OVER ANY
PRIVILEGE OR AT LEAST HAD RULING
BY THE COURT AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT PRIVILEGE WOULD HAVE
APPLIED.
THESE WITNESSES MAY HAVE NOTHING
TO SAY.
THIS IS DELAY TACTIC TO TRY TO
CONTINUE THIS BEYOND THE POINT,
I THINK POINT IS TWO OR
THREE-WEEK TRIAL ON THIS ISSUE.
THIS ISSUE SHOULD BE DEAD.
WE SHOULD BE MOVING ON TO
IMPORTANT ISSUES.
LIZ: DEMOCRATS ARE TALKING
POTENTIALLY BRINGING IN CHIEF
SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN
ROBERTS ON THIS.
HE MAY HAVE TO EXCUSE HIMSELF
BECAUSE WEIGHED IN ON EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGE, THAT ARGUMENT.
WHAT IS THE SENATE REPUBLICANS
SO-CALLED KILL SWITCH.
LET TRUMP'S TEAM ASK A MOTION TO
DISMISS ARTICLES FAIRLY QUICKLY
AFTER SOME EVIDENCE IS
PRESENTED.
THE DEMOCRATS SAY THEY HAVE
OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THAT THE
PRESIDENT DID HALT AID TO
UKRAINE TO FORCE IT TO LOOK INTO
THE BIDENS?
>> YEAH.
I THINK THAT WHAT MAJORITY
LEADER McCONNELL HAS DONE IS
TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS ISN'T SOME
SORT OF A POLITICAL SHOW.
THAT THIS IS A NARROW AND TIGHT
TRIAL.
THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS THE
RIGHTS THAT HE SHOULD HAVE HAD
IN THE HOUSE AND DIDN'T HAVE.
AND THAT THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS
CAN'T CONTROL THE SENATE
CALENDAR.
I THINK MITCH McCONNELL'S
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, MAKING SURE
THAT IF THE DEMOCRATS DON'T MEET
A CERTAIN THRESHOLD THE TRIAL IS
OVER, AND COUNTRY GETS BACK TO
ITS BUSINESS.
LIZ: EVEN CNN ASK WHY DIDN'T
DEMOCRATS PURSUE SUBPOENAS FOR
WITNESSES IN COURT?
CNN IS ALSO ASKING THE
DEMOCRATS, ARE YOU IN DANGER OF
INTERFERING WITH YOUR OWN 2020
CANDIDATES?
I WANT TO GET TO THIS.
HOUSE INTEL CHAIR ADAM SCHIFF,
HE IS THE LEAD MANAGER, HE
ACCUSED CIA AND NSA WITHHOLDING
INFORMATION ABOUT UKRAINE.
HE DIDN'T GIVE ANY EVIDENCE OF
THAT.
SCHIFF DODGED QUESTIONS ON ABC
THIS WEEK ABOUT CREDIBILITY OF
LEV PARNAS THE DEMOCRATS NEW
WITNESS.
PARNAS IS UNDER INDICTMENT ON
FEDERAL CHARGES INCLUDING MAKING
FALSE CLAIMS.
CRITICS HE WANTS TO GET
LENIENCY.
WHAT IS REACTION ON ADAM SCHIFF
HERE?
>> ADAM SCHIFF HAD HIS
OPPORTUNITY AND I BLEW IT.
HE DID NOT PRESENT A STRONG
CASE.
HE PRESENTED A VERY WEAK CASE.
IT WAS A PARTISAN VOTE IN THE
HOUSE.
IF ANYTHING TWO DEMOCRATS VOTED
WITH REPUBLICANS.
ADAM SCHIFF HAS FAILED AND HE IS
NOT GOING TO SUCCEED IN THE
SENATE.
HE WILL NOT HAVE A SHOW IN THE
SENATE WHEN HE FAILED TO PUT A
STRONG CASE TOGETHER IN THE
HOUSE.
LIZ: HOUSE IMPEACHMENT MANAGER
JERRY NADLER SAYS ANY SENATORS
WHO VOTE AGAINST WITNESSES ARE
PART OF A COVERUP.
NADLER SAYS ANY WITNESSES CALLED
ABOUT THE BIDENS, TALK ABOUT THE
BIDENS IS PART OF A SMEAR
CAMPAIGN.
THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN SENT OUT AN
UNUSUAL MEMO, OPEN MEMO TO THE
MEDIA WARNING HOW THEY COVER THE
BIDEN'S UKRAINE CONFLICTS
INTERESTS, SAYING STORY HAS
ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED BUT AUTHOR
PETER SCHWEITZER SAID FIVE BIDEN
FAMILY MEMBERS GOT RICH USING
THE BIDEN CONNECTION.
WE'LL GO DEEPER INTO THE STORY
LATER IN THE SHOW.
SENATOR TED CRUZ SAYS THE
PRESIDENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY
TO THE INVESTIGATE THE BIDENS,
WATCH.
>> I THINK ONE OF THE
FUNDAMENTAL DEFENSES I EXPECT TO
HEAR FROM THE WHITE HOUSE THIS
WEEK IS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS,
INHERENT AUTHORITY, IN FACT A
RESPONSIBILITY TO INVESTIGATE
CORRUPTION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED
WITH JOE BIDEN AND HUNTER BIDEN,
THERE IS MINIMUM A PRIMA FACIE
EVIDENCE OF CORRUPTION.
LIZ: YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
LET ME PUSH BACK.
DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING THIS IS NOT
MATERIAL TO THE ARTICLES OF
IMPEACHMENT THEMSELVES THE
HUNTER BIDEN STORY?
>> WHOLE REASON THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP RESPONDED TO PRESIDENT
ZELENSKY'S STATEMENT ABOUT
RUDY GIULIANI AND THE BIDENS
WAS, THAT IT IS RELEVANT.
THAT THERE IS CORRUPTION IN THE
UKRAINE.
THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T WANT TO
GIVE U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY TO THE
UKRAINE IF THERE IS CORRUPTION
THAT IS ONGOING.
SO HE ASKED THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UKRAINE TO LOOK INTO CORRUPTION.
THAT IS PART OF THE CORRUPTION.
LIZ: INCLUDING POLITICAL RIVAL,
JOE BIDEN?
>> INCLUDING EVERYBODY.
JUST BECAUSE YOU RUN FOR
PRESIDENT DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET
IMMUNITY.
IN THIS CASE THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UKRAINE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE
BIDENS.
I THINK U.S. SENATE SHOULD LOOK
INTO IT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE
PART OF THIS IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
LIZ: SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM
REALLY UNLOADING ON
NANCY PELOSI.
WATCH THIS.
>> WELL, TO MY FRIEND ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE, YOU KNOW, I
LIKE NANCY PELOSI.
I'VE KNOWN HER FOR YEARS.
I THINK SHE IS A VERY RELIDGE
JUST PERSON BUT WHEN IT COMES TO
DONALD TRUMP, NANCY PELOSI MAY
PRAY HIM PRIVATELY BUT SHE
ORCHESTRATED THE CHURCH OF HOLY
HELL, FROM THE TIME TRUMP HAS
BEEN SWORN IN UNTIL NOW IT HAS
BEEN ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER.
LIZ: NANCY PELOSI ADMITTED
IMPEACHMENT STARTED WITH MUELLER
PROBE.
YOUR REACTION TO THE HOLY HELL
CHARACTERIZATION?
>> IMPEACHMENT AGENDA STARTED
BEFORE THE PRESIDENT WAS ENEVEN
SWORN IN.
ALL THESE DEMOCRATS AVOIDED
GOING TO THE SWEARING-IN
CEREMONY, THE INAUGURATION.
THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
IMPEACHMENT SINCE DAY ONE.
THERE HAVE BEEN NEWSPAPER
HEADLINES.
LET THE IMPEACHMENT BEGIN FROM
DAY ONE.