"THE FIVE."
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BIG TECH COMPANIES ARE GETTING
INTO BED WITH COMMUNIST CHINA,
AND IT’S HAVING A CHILLING
EFFECT ON THE WORLD.
APPLE CEO TIM COOK NOT LOOKING
GREAT AFTER HIS COMPANY LIMITED
A KEY iPHONE FUNCTION USED
BY -- AND LOCKED DOWN COVID
PROTESTERS.
SAYING THAT CHANGES WERE
ANNOUNCED TO BOOST SECURITY, BUT
WATCH HIM ACT LIKE A COWARD, AND
CONFRONTED BY HILLARY VAUGHN. >> DO YOU SUPPORT THE CHINESE
>> DO YOU SUPPORT THE CHINESE
PEOPLE’S RIGHTS TO PROTEST?
DO YOU HAVE ANY REACTION TO THE
FACTORY WORKERS THAT WERE BEATEN
AND DETAINED FOR PROTESTING
COVID LOCKDOWNS?
DO YOU REGRET RESTRICTING
AIRDROP ACCESS THAT PROTESTERS
USED IT TO PERVADE SURVEILLANCE
FROM THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT?
DO YOU THINK IT’S PROBLEMATIC TO
DO BUSINESS WITH THE COMMUNIST
CHINESE PARTY WHEN THEY SUPPRESS
HUMAN RIGHTS?
>> Jesse: THAT COMES AS WE GET
A NEW DISTURBING REPORT ON HOW
CHINA USED TIKTOK TO TIP THE
SCALES AND OUR MIDTERMS.
APPARENTLY, ACCOUNTS RUN BY THE
PROPAGANDA ARM OF THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT HAVE ACCUMULATED
MILLIONS OF FOLLOWERS.
THEY WERE BASHING REPUBLICANS,
PRAISING DEMOCRATS WITHOUT
CLEARLY DISCLOSING BUT THEY WERE
BEING POSTED BY FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT.
HILLARY VAUGHN DREW BLOOD.
>> Jeanine: HILLARY VAUGHN IS
MY HERO.
SHE HAD ONE AFTER THE OTHER
AFTER THE OTHER.
HOW DISAPPOINTING -- AND THAT IS
A VERY SOFT WORD -- IS THAT THE
HEAD OF APPLE IS LITERALLY
TAKING A POSITION THAT THE
CHINESE GOVERNMENT -- THE ONLY COVER
-- THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE
WORLD THAT WANTS TO LIMIT
AIRDROP -- SO PROTESTERS CAN
INVADE THAT POLICING BY THE
CHINESE COMMUNISTS AND
COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
ONCE THEY ARE IDENTIFIED AS
PROTESTERS, THEY ARE TAKEN AND
BEATEN AND WE NEVER HEAR FROM
THEM AGAIN.
FOR TIM COOK TO NOT ANSWER A
QUESTION, WHEN IT IS SO
ANTIDEMOCRATIC AND IT’S ALL
ABOUT THE MONEY FOR HIM.
TO WATCH THE OPPOSITE OF THAT
WITH TWITTER -- WE ARE NOW
LEARNING THAT TWITTER IS
INVOLVED IN THE ELECTION, OR WAS
INVOLVED IN THE 2020 ELECTION,
AND WAS PUTTING CERTAIN
INFORMATION HIGHER UP OR
SUPPRESSING CERTAIN INFORMATION,
AND THEN -- ON TOP OF IT.
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS IN
THE BUSINESS OF SUPPRESSING
FREE SPEECH, AND THEY ARE DOING
IT FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, AND
THAT IS JUST PLAIN WRONG.
>> Jesse: AND ELON MUSK SAID
HE WOULD RELEASE INFORMATION
TODAY ABOUT -- LAPTOP AND WE
WILL BRING IT TO YOU IF WE SEE
IT COME IN.
THE CEO DIDN’T SAY A WORD.
IS THAT A GOOD STRATEGY, OR
SHOULD HE HAVE STOPPED AND
TALKED TO OUR OWN HILLARY VAUGHN
HILLARY VAUGHN?
>> Kennedy: IT’S BEEN GOOD TO
BE BACK WITH EVERYBODY.
>> Jesse: WE’VE BEEN MISSING
YOU.
>> JUST TO -- WE HAVE BEEN IN
THE MIDDLE OF A RESET IN TERMS
OF OUR ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIP
WITH CHINA.
I THINK IT’S UNFAIR TO PUT THE
ONUS OF THE BURDEN ON ONE CEO.
THOUGH I PROBABLY WOULD’VE HAD
AN ANSWER, HIS PRESS PEOPLE
SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF
RESPONSE.
IN FAIRNESS, WE ON THIS SITE
HAVE BEEN CRITICAL BUSINESS
LEADERS WHEN -- POLITICS.
I HAVE NOT ALWAYS, SO I’M BEING
CONSISTENT.
I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE ANSWERED
THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT YOU CAN’T
EXPECT THE CEO OF A LARGE
COMPANY TO DETERMINE WHAT HIS
LARGER GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC
POLICY -- NEEDS TO BE SORTED
OUT.
THAT’S NO EXCUSE FOR NOT
ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
HERE ARE THE TERMS THAT ARE
BEING TALKED ABOUT.
YOU HAVE IP CONCERNS, ACCESS TO
THEIR MARKETS AND OUR MARKETS.
YOU HAVE NATIONAL SECURITY
CONCERNS, TRADE CONCERNS.
YOU HAVE SUPPORT OF HOSTILE
REGIMES.
ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE SORTED OUT
AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND A
LARGER POLICY LEVEL.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESET BEFORE
THESE IDEAS ARE GOING TO BE
RESOLVED.
AS WE TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF
CHINA, WE CAN SHAKE OUR HEAD,
BUT -- BYPRODUCTS OF CHINA.
YOU CAN FEEL AS STRONGLY AS YOU
DO, YOU SHOULD STOP DEVOURING
FOOD, BUYING THINGS THAT WERE
MADE IN CHINA.
>> Jeanine: YOU ARE NOT
ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
TIM COOK HAS ALLOWED THE CHINESE
PEOPLE TO INVADE --
>> Kennedy: TIM COOK?
>> Jeanine: -- HE IS THE
PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY.
YOU DIDN’T KNOW?
IT’S THE ONLY COMPANY IN THE
WORLD --
>> Kennedy: THEN THROW YOUR
APPLE PHONE AWAY RIGHT NOW.
>> Jeanine: NO.
IT’S ABOUT --
>> Kennedy: IF YOU FEEL THAT
STRONGLY.
[CROSSTALK]
[LAUGHTER]
THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT HAVE
TO BE REGULATED AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL.
THERE’S POLICY THAT NEEDS TO BE
RESET.
I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT IF YOU
FEEL AS STRONGLY AS YOU DO THROW
IT AWAY.
>> Jeanine: WHAT DO YOU AGREE?
>> Kennedy: THAT THESE MATTERS
NEED TO BE RESOLVED.
>> Jeanine: NO, ANSWER THE
QUESTION AND EXPLAINED TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE --
>> Kennedy: THROW AWAY YOUR
PHONE.
>> Jeanine: THAT’S NOT THE
ANSWER.
TELL THE PEOPLE WHY YOU THINK
IT’S A GOOD IDEA TO IDENTIFY
PROTESTERS WHO END UP BEING
KILLED --
>> Kennedy: I DON’T THINK
THAT.
>> Jeanine: -- AS A RESULT OF
THAT SHUT DOWN MY COMMUNIST
PARTY.
I’M NOT ANSWERING IT.
WHY DID HE DO IT?
>> Jesse: LET’S MOVE ON.
KENNEDY, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN
WHAT ELON MIGHT BE RELEASING TO
THE WORLD ABOUT WHAT THE HUNTER
BRYANT COVER UP?
>> Kennedy: I AM INTERESTED IN
THAT.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT -- THE
HUNTER BIDEN COVER UP?
>> Kennedy: HE WILL GET
CONFIRMATION OF THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I EXPECT.
TO HAROLD’S POINT, BECAUSE YOU
PUT TOGETHER ABOUT FOUR
DIFFERENT THINGS.
PART OF THAT IS THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT, PART OF THAT IS
APPLE, BUT THE WAY YOU TALK
ABOUT IT IT IS AS IF IT IS ONE
ENTITY, WHICH IS THE MOST
CONCERNING THING WE FACE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
>> Harold: DIDN’T MEAN TO --
>> Kennedy: YES, APPLE HAS TO
WORRY ABOUT MARKET SHARE.
ABOVE MARKET SHARE IS HUMAN
FREEDOM, AND HAVING ACCESS TO
TALKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE,
COORDINATING PROTESTS, STANDING
UP AGAINST AN AUTHORITARIAN,
MURDEROUS REGIME.
THAT’S WHAT TIM COOK COULD’VE
ALLOWED.
THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT OUR
FOREIGN POLICY, HOW WE INTERFACE
AS A COUNTRY WITH CHINA.
TO THE JUDGE’S POINT, THESE
INALIENABLE, GOD-GIVEN HUMAN
RIGHTS ARE ABOVE WHAT APPLE
MIGHT MAKE APPEASING THE
COMMUNIST CHINESE PARTY.
A ELON MUSK, IN CONTRAST, MADE
STAR LINK AVAILABLE TO UKRAINIAN
PEOPLE SO THEY COULD COORDINATE
AND GET THEMSELVES AND THEIR
FAMILIES TO SAFETY, AND ALSO
HAVE SOME SORT OF VIGILANTE
OFFENSE ON THEIR OWN.
TIM COOK COULD HAVE DONE THE
SAME THING OPENING UP AIRDROP TO
THESE DESPERATE PEOPLE, HOLDING
UP WHITE LENGTH PIECES OF PAPER
TO SYMBOLIZE WHAT THEY WOULD
LIKE TO SAY, BUT THEY CANNOT,
BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN SILENCED.
>> Harold: I’M NOT ON THAT
SIDE.
I SAID HE SHOULD’VE ANSWERED
ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I’M ONLY SAYING THAT A LARGER
SET OF ISSUES HAVE TO BE
LITIGATED.
IF YOU FEEL THAT STRONGLY, THROW
YOUR iPHONE AWAY.
>> Jeanine: THAT’S NOT -- HE
SHOULD HAVE ANSWERED THE
QUESTION.
HE SHOULDN’T HAVE DONE IT.
>> Harold: I AM PRO-AMERICA.
I’M NOT GOING TO LET YOU ALIGN
ME WITH THEM.
IF YOU FEEL SO STRONGLY, THROW
YOUR PHONE AWAY.
>> Jeanine: OF NOT ALIGNING IT
WITH THEM.
>> IN ALL DUE RESPECT TO THESE
LOVEBIRDS AT THE END [LAUGHTER]
THAT TIM COOK VIDEO IS SO
EMBARRASSING.
HE LOOKED LIKE ME WALKING PAST
ONE OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL
PEOPLE WITH THE CLIPBOARDS ON
SIXTH AVENUE.
>> DO YOU HAVE TWO SECONDS FOR
CLIMATE CHANGE?
>> I DON’T.
>> DO YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES, WE ARE
GOING TO MELT.
YOU CAN’T TELL ME ABOUT
FREE SPEECH PROBLEMS WHEN THE
BIGGEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD IS
NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
THEY TOLD HIM TO SHUT UP.
IF HE RESPONDS, HE AMPLIFIES THE
STORY.
THAT’S WHAT WE WERE WATCHING IN
THAT MOMENT, HIM REALIZING HE
NEEDS TO PLAY DEFENSE.
EVERYONE IN THE COMPANY THAT
THROWS UP A RAINBOW, UKRAINIAN
FLAG, PRONOUN, DOESN’T CARE
ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS.
IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD HAVE THE
BALLS TO SAY SOMETHING.
IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS DIVESTING
OURSELVES FROM THIS TECHNOLOGY,
BECAUSE IT HAS ITS OWN SET OF
ENTANGLEMENTS.
I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, WHICH
IS IF YOU FEEL THAT WAY -- BUT
APPLE REALLY FELT THAT WAY.
JUST GIVE CHINA THE FINGER.
ARE THEY AN AMERICAN OR CHINESE
COMPANY?
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THEY ARE A
CHINESE COMPANY.
>> DON’T MAKE ME CHOOSE BETWEEN
MY PHONE AND MY INTEGRITY,
HAROLD.
>> Harold: THAT’S MY THING,
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RESET WITH
THIS RELATIONSHIP.
>> Kennedy: HILLARY HAD A
RESET BUTTON.
[LAUGHTER]
B2 REALLY QUICK, IT’S NATIONAL
SECURITY, CAPITAL MARKETS.
IT >> Jeanine: HOW DO WE DO
THAT, SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM?
>> >> Harold: BRING ALL THESE
COMPANIES TO THE WAY DOWN
WHITE HOUSE AND FIGURE IT OUT,
WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN’T DO.
I WOULD INVITE HIM.
>> PRESIDENT HAROLD!
>> Jeanine: WHY IS TIKTOK
RUNNING SO FREELY?
THAT’S A CHINESE COMPANY.
PUT AN END TO TIKTOK.
>> IF YOU HAVE MANY MADE OFF
WITH THE CASH, AND THE TIKTOK
INTERFERENCE, IT’S A DOUBLE DOSE
OF ELECTION INTERFERENCE.
DOUBLE DOSE, HAROLD.