IT IS UP TO CONGRESS, DAVID, TO
RENEW A PROGRESS OR NOT REMOVED.
ALEXANDER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET’S GET THE REED ON THIS FOR
DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY LAW
PROFESSOR JON, GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THAT USE THE TERM UNACCEPTABLE.
I WOULD USE THE TERM HORRENDOUS.
THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY HOW MANY
TIMES THIS HAS BEEN ABUSED.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WARNED US BACK
AFTER 9/11, PATRIOT, PFIZER THIS
KIND OF THINK MIGHT HAPPEN.
NOW THAT IT HAS SHOULDN’T WE
REALLY TAKE A SECOND LOOK ABOUT
WHETHER WE WANT TO GET RID OF
THE FISA COURTS?
>> I SHARE YOUR DISAPPOINTMENT.
I WAS THERE AT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT ON 911 I DID WORK ON
THE PATRIOT ACT AND ON SOME OF
THESE EXACT PROGRAMS.
THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL DEAL MADE
HERE BETWEEN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT AND CONGRESS AND THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WHICH WAS GIVE
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE
FBI THE BROADER SEARCH TOOLS
WHICH THEY HAD NOT HAD BEFORE
WHICH HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO STOP
911.
THE DEAL IS THEY WOULD NOT BE
USED TO SEARCH FOR DOMESTIC
CRIME.
THEY WOULD NOT BE USED TO SEARCH
FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM FOR
FOREIGN ESPIONAGE BUT IT’S CLEAR
THE FBI DID THIS.
>> ONLY INTERRUPTED BY KEN.
I WAS ON YOUR SIDE AND BACK WHEN
THE DEBATE WAS HAPPENING ALL OF
MY LIBERTARIAN FRIENDS SAY IN
INVARIABLY IT IS GOING TO BE
USED TO SPY ON AMERICANS.
AND IT WILL BEAT MISUSE THAT IS
THE WAY THE HUMAN CONDITION IS
GREAT THAT IS WHY WE HAD ALL
THESE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN OUR
SYSTEM THAT FISA JUMPED OVER.
THE WALL THAT USED TO EXIST
BETWEEN FBI AND CIA WAS TORN
DOWN FOR GOOD REASONS INITIALLY.
BUT NOW ISN’T TIME TO RETHINK
WHETHER YOU AND I WERE ON THE
WRONG SIDE OF THIS ISSUE?
>> I DON’T THINK WE WERE WRONG
WE SUCCESSFULLY USE THE TOOLS TO
BREAK UP AL QAEDA AND TO STOP
ATTACKS ON THE HOMELAND PAID BUT
YOU ARE RIGHT THERE’S ALWAYS THE
URGE TO USE TOOLS FOR SOMETHING
ELSE FOR YOU TO USE THESE TOOLS,
AS THE REPORTS SHOW ON DONOR THE
PROBLEM IS THE POWERS THEMSELVES
RATHER THAN THE FBI.
I’M SO BIASED IN WAYS WE COULD
NOT FOR SEE WE SEE CONFIRMATION
IN THE DURHAM REPORT
WHISTLEBLOWER HEARING.
>> WILL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE
BUT REGARD TO THE DURHAM REPORT
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE POOH-POOHING
TERM THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SAYING
HE DID NOT GET ANYTHING HE TOOK
A COUPLE CASES TO COURT.
HE LOST SPRAYED THE FACT ONE OF
THE CASES THAT WAS PLED IN THAT
INVESTIGATION IS THE CASE OF
KEVIN KLEINSMITH PRE-FBI
ATTORNEY WHO ADMITTED HE HAD
BEEN DOCTORING EVIDENCE TO SPY
ON AMERICA HE ADMITTED THAT
THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE FBI
ATTORNEY WHO WILLINGLY ADMITTED
HE’D BEEN DOCTORING THESE
REPORTS.
IT SHOWS TWO THINGS.
ONE, WE REALLY DO HAVE TO CHANGE
THE WHOLE PROCESS.
AND TO COMMENT DURHAM REALLY DIG
AT THE BOTTOM OF A LOT OF THINGS
IN HIS REPORT.
>> I THINK THAT IS RIGHT, DAVID.
I THINK WITH THE REPORT SHOWS IS
A LOOK, LOT OF BAD THINGS HAPPEN
AT THE FBI.
ONLY A TINY PORTION OF THOSE
INVOLVED CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
ANGRY.
I SHARE THEIR DISAPPOINTING OUT
THE FBI.
BUT I DON’T KNOW WHETHER YOU CAN
TRY THE PEOPLE, WHAT DID I WANT
TO PUT ALL THIS BEFORE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
HOW WOULD YOU PUT THIS ALL
BEFORE THE CONGRESS.
HAVE HEARINGS, CUT OFF FUNDING.
RESTRUCTURE THE FBI YOU ARE
COMPLETELY RIGHT MAYBE PROCESSES
HAVE TO BE CHANGED MAYBE THE FBI
HAS TO BE RESTRUCTURED IN THE
FUNDAMENTAL WAY.
BECAUSE MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING
ABOUT THE BIAS AT THE VERY TOP
OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE FBI
THAT CAUSES IT TO GO BACK TO
YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION TO MAKE
THESE MISTAKES OR ABUSE THEIR
POWERS.
>> RESOLVE THE BIAS, WE’VE SEEN
FBI AGENTS LEAVE IN THE
WHISTLEBLOWERS WILL TALK ABOUT
IN THE SECOND PERIOD THE WALL
STREET JOURNAL PRINTED OUT A
LIST OF THE VARIOUS POINT DURHAM
BROUGHT OUT NOTE BASIS FOR
INVESTIGATION BUT NOT A SINGLE
U.S. AGENCY HAD ANY EVIDENCE OF
COLLUSION AT THE TIME THEY CAME
OUT WITH THIS WHOLE THING.
BIASED I MENTIONED KEVIN
KLEINSMITH.
DOUBLE STANDARDS HILLARY
CLINTON’S CONFLICTS OF INFLUENCE
OR INVESTIGATED TO A PHONY
CHARGE TO GET ON RUSSIAN
COLLUSION WAS, WILLFUL IGNORANCE
THEY IGNORED EVIDENCE IT WAS
USED BY THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN TO
EXECUTE A POLITICAL DIRTY TRICK.
IN RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION.
THE FBI MAY HAVE BEGUN AS A
RUSSIAN INTEL OPERATION.
THE FBI PROBE.
BUT IS NUMBER ONE NO BASIS FOR
INVESTIGATION.
THEY WERE NOT GOING AFTER A
CRIME THEY’RE GOING AFTER AN
INDIVIDUAL, DONALD TRUMP.
>> THAT’S THE MOST SHOCKING
THING.
YOU STRIP AWAY THAT LEGALESE AND
TECHNICAL LANGUAGE IN THE
REPORT, THE HILLARY CLINTON
CAMPAIGN CAME UP WITH THE DIRTY,
DIRTY POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS TRICK.
IT ONLY GOT LEGS BECAUSE THEY
WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE WHO
ARE OF THEIR SAME PARTY.
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE FBI.
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY UNDER THE
OBAMA FRUSTRATION UNDER THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO A WILLINGLY
TAKE IT OR DUPE THEM INTO TAKING
AND USE THE VAST POWERS OF THE
GOVERNMENT TO PURSUE THE
CANDIDATE OF THE OTHER POLITICAL
PARTY DURING A PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION IT’S A REDLINE THAT
SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN CROSSED.
>> I JUST WANT TO THROW IN THIS
SOUNDBITE FROM THE FBI
WHISTLEBLOWERS TESTIMONY THIS
WEEKEND.
THE MEAT ROLL TAPE AND GET YOUR
REACTION, GO AHEAD.
>> THE FBI SUSPENDED MY SECURITY
CLEARANCE ACCUSING ME OF BEING
DISLOYAL TO MY COUNTRY.
THIS OUTRAGEOUS AND INSULTING
ACCUSATION IS BASED ON
UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS.
I HOLD CONSPIRATORIAL VIEWS
REGARDING THE EVENTS AND
GENERATE SIXTH, 2021.
I ALLEGEDLY SYMPATHIZE WITH
CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
I DO NOT.
DAVID: VERY QUICKLY, JON, WHEN
THE DEMOCRATS CRITICIZING THESE
WHISTLEBLOWERS ACTUALLY HAVE THE
AUDACITY TO CALL HIM OR TO PUT
HIM IN THE NOTION THIS WAS A
RACIST INVESTIGATION.
OBVIOUSLY IT WAS CRAZY.
BUT QUICKLY, YOUR REACTION TO
THIS?
>> YOU AND I PROBABLY MEMORY
DEMOCRATS USED TO LIKE
WHISTLEBLOWERS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE SHOULD
WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK AND