So we, of
course, are awaiting expected indictments
out of Georgia
having to do with the 2020 election
and efforts to stop Joe Biden's win there
by associates of former
President Trump
and we now have
significant new information
about what
we may be expecting
when it comes
to the former president's actions there
and those of his associates.
What can you tell us Sara Murray. Yeah.
I mean we have been reporting that
we expect Fulton
County District Attorney
to go before a grand jury next week
and to present her case
and really craft
this narrative around
how Trump and his allies
tried to overturn the election.
We are now learning from sources familiar
with the matter
that she's expected
to seek more than a dozen indictments
when she goes in front of this
grand jury.
So this, I think, is
one of the significant differences
that we could see between her case
and what we've seen
in the federal election
interference investigation.
Obviously, we saw the former
president, Donald Trump,
charged in that case.
But we know that Willis has been looking
more broadly
beyond just Trump at sort of
what was the kind of criminal enterprise
that was working around him
to try to overturn the results
and she's looked
at the fake electoral scheme.
She's looked at efforts to pressure
election officials and state legislators.
She's looked at this voting systems
breach in Coffee County,
and there are
people involved
in all of those different facets
of her investigation
who are essentially bracing
for the fact that they could
face charges next week.
Brianna, in the federal case,
when it comes to
the election interference.
There is former President Trump
and then there are six
so far, unindicted coconspirator six.
Right. So you're talking about seven people
total here. We're talking about 12 plus.
Yes.
Here we're talking about more people
and people that, you know,
if they're charged,
will be named as defendants.
These are not going to be unnamed people.
If she moves ahead,
as we expect her to
with a racketeering case,
you are going to see these people named.
You're going to see the kinds of acts
that she believes
that they were involved in.
And you're going to see her
lay out
this narrative of again,
what she believes was
sort of a criminal conspiracy
to try to upend the results
of the 20, 20 election
and how she sees these pieces
fitting together.
Why might there be
people who do not overlap? Right.
Why might there people
why might there be people
who would be indicted
in this case in Georgia, but
at least so far, are not,
but they could ultimately be
in the federal case?
Well, I mean,
the short answer on
why we might see names in Georgia
that we never see in a federal court
is because
there was a lot of crazy
and specific stuff
that was happening in Georgia.
I mean,
there were people
showing up
at the homes of election workers,
you know,
the people that had faced
these pressure campaigns
from Rudy
Giuliani and others, people
who showed up at their homes
and try to get convinced them
to essentially admit
that they took part in fraud
that they didn't participate in.
Again, this voting systems
breach that took place in Coffey
County, Georgia.
This is something
the district attorney
has been very focused
on, that we haven't gotten
a sense
that the feds
have really been focused on.
And again,
something that's happening
in her home state
and sort of, in their view,
could fit into this broader conspiracy.
So we may see names in these indictments
that you would not expect
to see in a federal case,
more than a dozen indictments expected.
And when
what are we looking at
for the timeline here?
I mean, we would expect this
to be pretty soon.
Well, we are looking at next week.
There are two grand juries
that meet in Fulton
County, Georgia, regularly.
One of them meets Monday and Tuesday.
One of them meets Thursday and Friday.
Again, we know she subpoenaed
witnesses and said essentially,
I'll give you 48 hours
to show up
and to testify before this grand jury.
So we should get a sense over the weekend
if these witnesses are being summoned
to show up on Monday or Tuesday.
And if that's not the case,
then we'll be looking toward
later in the week All right.
Looking like a big week, nonetheless.
Sara Murray,
thank you so much for
that new information, Jim.
We are
learning new
details about a secret search warrant
and a secret Trump campaign memo,
both part of the special counsel's
2020 election interference probe.
Here's what we know.
Special counsel received a warrant
for former
President Trump's Twitter account
earlier this year.
Twitter at the time
was barred from alerting Trump
to that warrant.
Today, we are also learning about a memo
written
a month
after Trump's election loss in 2020.
It laid out a detailed plan to overturn
Joe Biden's victory in that election.
It was written by unindicted
coconspirator number five,
Kenneth Cheeseburger,
an attorney
who was advising the Trump campaign.
It was The New York Times
that obtained a copy of the memo.
CNN's Paula Reid
has been following it all.
Paula, let's begin with this memo
because it lays out
in fairly clear terms what the Trump team
was attempting to do.
Hoping to do in the
lead up to January six.
That's right.
This is really the missing piece
in understanding the road map
that the former president
and his associates laid out
for trying to overturn the election.
A lot of people
when they think of a memo,
they think of
John Eastman, another Trump
attorney who, of course, authored a memo
about how the vice then-Vice President
could help block
the results of the election.
But here this memo helps us to understand
how they wanted
to install these slates of fake electors,
if for no other reason
to at least buy the more time
to continue to litigate.
And according to The New York
Times, cheeseburger understood that
this was not something
that was likely going
to pass muster at the Supreme Court
and that it was going to be controversial
But it really helps you understand
exactly how they were plotting this out
and the fact that it started shortly
after Election Day,
the choice of the word controversial.
Remarkable.
Given they were discussing
turning away electoral votes
they didn't like, which were votes
they lost in states that they lost
with no evidence of fraud
and creating a fake controversy.
In effect, as the special counsel
described it.
Okay.
Trump's Twitter account
as part of the special counsel's
investigation,
he got a warrant for his Twitter account.
Why exactly and what would this cover?
It's unclear
exactly what they wanted
in the Twitter account,
but the fact that they were seeking
this warrant is significant.
But it was such a sensitive pursuit
that they wanted to keep it secret.
But Twitter argued
that that would be a violation
of the First Amendment
and the current laws that govern
electronic communications.
Now, eventually,
the special counsel agreed
to let the former
president know about the warrant,
but they wanted to protect the identities
of the investigators
who were working on this pursuit.
Now, interestingly,
Twitter was allegedly slow
to provide investigators with what it is
they were seeking to obtain.
They were hit with a $350,000 fine.
Now it's unclear
exactly what they obtained
or how it fits into the case.
But it is notable,
and it's certainly something
that we would expect
the former president
will mention in the coming days.
Pallone, thanks so much.