BACK TO YOU.
DAVID: EDWARD LAWRENCE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
WE WELCOME NOW ALASKA GOVERNOR
MIKE DUNLEAVY TO TALK ABOUT
THIS.
GOVERNOR, IT IS INSANE, AS
MICHAEL WALTZ JUST SAID
REPLACING ONE DICTATOR’S OIL FOR
ANOTHER DICTATOR’S OIL, IT IS
JUST AS DIRTY THAT OIL IN MORE
WAYS THAN ONE.
WE’LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT.
WE HEARD JEN PSAKI SAY THE
PRESIDENT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE
CAN TO TRY TO EASE THE PAIN FOR
U.S. CONSUMERS S THAT TRUE?
I MEAN IS HE DOING EVERYTHING HE
CAN TO RAMP UP DOMESTIC
PRODUCTION?
>> DAVID, EXIST IN YOUR UNIVERSE
THAT YOU EXIST IN THIS MAKES NO
SENSE AT ALL.
I CAN RECALL AS A YOUNG MAN
SITTING IN MY FATHER’S CAR
DURING THE OIL EMBARGO, ARAB OIL
EMBARGO JUST HOPING TO GET GAS
IN A COUPLE HOURS.
NOW HERE WE WERE COUPLE YEARS
AGO, ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, ENERGY
GIANTS, WE’RE GIVING IT ALL
BACK.
I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT THE
CONVERSATIONS WOULD BE IF THIS
IS SOMETHING PLAYING OUT IN IRAN
WHERE THE AYATOLLAH WOULD SAY
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WITH HAVE A LOT
OF OIL BUT WE REALLY DON’T WANT
TO USE IT, SO LET’S GO ASK
AMERICA OR SOMEONE ELSE TO
UNDERWRITE OUR ENERGY NEEDS.
IT MAKES SO FENCE FROM ANY ANGLE
WHATSOEVER.
THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE’RE
DEALING WITH NOW WITH RUSSIA IS
BLOOD OIL LIKE BLOOD DIAMONDS IN
AFRICA.
THIS IS A REGIME THAT DOESN’T
CARRY ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
RIGHT NOW OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T CARE
ABOUT PEOPLE.
TO KEEP UNDERWRITING THIS MAKES
NO SENSE AT ALL WHEN WE HAVE ALL
THE ENERGY RIGHT HERE IN
AMERICA.
DAVID: JUST TO YOUR POINT,
GOVERNOR.
I USED TO COVER LATIN AMERICA.
I WOULD FLY OVER THE FIELD IN
THE VENEZUELAN OIL COUNTRY, YOU
WOULD SEE THE HORRIBLE SIGNS OF
POLLUTION, BETWEEN 2010 AND
2016, ACCORDING TO AN
INDEPENDENT GROUP, THE VENEZUELA
OIL GIANT, PEDEVESA, THIS BY THE
WAY ARE LOOKING AT OIL SPILLS IN
THE WATER IN THE REGION AROUND
WHERE THE OIL IS PRODUCED BUT
THERE WERE MORE THAN 46,000
SPILLS OF CRUDE AND OTHER
POLLUTANTS BETWEEN 2010 AND
2016.
I MEAN, THIS IS THE DIRTYIEST
OIL PRODUCER.
BESIDES THE GOVERNMENT IS DIRTY,
NARCOTERRORIST GOVERNMENT, THE
WAY THEY PRODUCE OIL IS DIRTY.
IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS HOLDING
BACK DOMESTIC PRODUCTION BECAUSE
THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT WHY THE HELL ARE
THEY RELEASING VENEZUELAN OIL?
>> THIS HAS BEEN OUR CASE FOR
SOME TIME.
THIS MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL F YOU
TRULY, TRULY CARE ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT DEAL WITH IT HERE IN
AMERICA.
MANY OF US ARE STARTING TO THINK
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE
ENVIRONMENT AT ALL, THIS IS
ABOUT SOCIAL ENGINEERING SHOVING
DOWN AMERICA’S THROAT THE
CONCEPT WE’LL DISPENSE WITH OIL.
WE ALREADY DISPENSED WITH COAL
FOR THE MOST PART.
PROBABLY DISPENSE WITH NUCLEAR
SO WE CAN POWER THIS COUNTRY
THROUGH RENEWABLES.
DON’T GET ME WRONG, I THINK WE
SHOULD BE DOING BOTH.
WE SHOULD BE ALL-IN ON THE
ENERGY POLICY.
I THINK THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION, SAID IT BEFORE,
DECLARE AN EMERGENCY ON ENERGY
AND FLATTEN DOWN THE REGULATORY
PROCESS, SHORTEN THAT PROCESS,
THE STUDY PROCESS, GET AS MUCH
ENERGY ONLINE AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
WE DO THAT, WE DRIVE UNDO THE
PRICE AT THE PUMP, WE DRIVE UNDO
THE COST OF TRANSPORTATION
ACROSS THE BOARD.
WE HELP OUR ALLIES.
WE STARVE OUR MEN IS OF THE CASH
WE WANT.
NONE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING MAKES
ANY SENSE AT ALL.
I FEEL LIKE AN OLD "STAR TREK"
SHOW, I HAVE BEEN BEAMED UP TO
ANOTHER PLANET.
DAVID: BY THE WAY YOU CAN BE FOR
ALL OF THE ABOVE, BE FOR
RENEWABLE ENERGY, FOR WIND,
SOLAR BUT THERE IS ONE THING
ABOUT SOLAR AND WIND, YOU CAN’T
SNIP IT OVERSEAS.
YOU CAN’T TURN IT INTO LNG TO
SHIP IT TO THE EUROPEANS WHO ARE
SUFFERING WHO NEED SOME
SEPARATION OF RUSSIAN OIL.
BY THE WAY, MR. ELON MUSK,
MR. ELECTRIC CAR HIMSELF TWEETED
OUT ON FRIDAY, I HATE TO SAY IT
WE NEED TO PUSH UP OIL AND GAS
OUT PUT.
THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY TIMES CALL
FOR EXTRAORDINARY MEASURES.
THIS AFFECTS TESLA BUT WE CAN’T
INSTANTANEOUSLY TO MAKE UP FOR
RUSSIA AND OIL AND GAS EXPORTS.
I THINK HE IS RIGHT ON POINT.
>> I DO TOO.
I DO TOO.
THIS WAR WOULD BE BROUGHT TO A
QUICKER CONCLUSION IF OUR
EUROPEAN ALLIES KNEW THEY WOULD
SUPPLY THEIR ENERGY NEEDS.
SINCE IT IS IN DOUBT, THEY DON’T
KNOW, WE’RE NOT SO SURE WE’LL
SANCTION RUSSIAN OIL.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IS
HAPPENING, WE’RE SANCTIONING OUR
OWN OIL.
WE’RE SANCTIONING OURSELVES.
WE’RE PENALIZING AMERICANS.
WE’RE PENALIZING THE ENERGY
SECTORS HERE IN AMERICA.
NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE AT
ALL UNLESS THIS IS ALL ABOUT
SOCIAL ENGINEERING AT ANY COST.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, AT THE RATE
OF INFLATION, AND THIS WAR, IF
THIS DOESN’T BRING HOME THE
STARK REALITY OF THE POLICIES OF
THIS ADMINISTRATION NOTHING
WILL.
WE ARE, THE WORLD IS HURTING.
WE’LL START HURTING T MAKES NO
SENSE.
WE COULD DO IT HERE IN AMERICA,
PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
HELP BRING THIS WAR TO COME TO A
QUICKER CONCLUSION BY NOT
FINANCING IT.
AND TAKE CARE OF AMERICANS T
MAKES NO SENSE, DAVID, NONE AT
ALL.
DAVID: GOVERNOR, I’M SURE YOU
HEARD THE WHITE HOUSE
COUNTERARGUMENT THAT IN FACT
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF THESE OIL
LEASES THAT THEY HAVE APPROVED
OF ON GOVERNMENT LAND AND
THEY’RE FREE TO DO THAT IF THEY
WANT.
THEY’RE FREE TO DRILL OIL.
IT IS THE PRODUCER’S FAULT.
THEY’RE THE ONES AT FAULT FOR
THE DIMINISHING OIL OUTPUT IN
THE UNITED STATES TO WHICH YOU
SAY WHAT?
>> KEYSTONE PIPELINE?
THAT WAS KILLED BY THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
THAT IS NOT PRODUCERS.
THAT IS A POLICY THAT KILLED
THIS PIPELINE THAT WOULD HAVE
BROUGHT SEVERAL HUNDRED HUNDRED
THOUSAND, 800,000 BARRELS OF OIL
FROM CANADA THROUGH THE UNITED
STATES TO HELP US HELP OUR
ALLIES.
THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
ANWR LEASES HERE IN ALASKA.
THE COASTAL PLAIN OF THE ARCTIC
NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE WAS SET
ASIDE FOR OIL DEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS PASS UNDER LAW OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WE SOLD THE LEASES.
NOW THEY’RE SLOW BOATING,
BACKTRACKING ON LEASES.
NOT REALLY, DAVID.
THERE ARE POLICIES WITH THIS
ADMINISTRATION THAT IS CLEARLY,
CLEARLY THE CASE THEY DON’T WANT
OIL AND GAS FOR REASONS THAT
MAKE NO SENSE TO ANYONE IN THIS
COUNTRY.
DAVID: WHAT ABOUT THE CALL FOR
BANNING ALL OIL COMING IN FROM
RUSSIA?
WE HAVE HEARD DIFFERENT REPORTS
THAT THE ADMINISTRATION’S FOR OR
AGAINST IT.
WOULD YOU FAVOR THAT?
>> I THINK THAT IS A QUICK, I
THINK THAT IS A METHOD WHICH YOU
COULD STARVE THE RUSSIANS OF THE
DOLLARS THAT THEY NEED, THE
MONEY THEY NEED I SHOULD SAY.
AND LIMITING THEIR ABILITY TO
KEEP THIS WAR IN A PROTRACTED
STATE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BRING THIS
WAR TO A CLOSE, SHORT OF A HOT
WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES BUT I
THINK WHAT IT IS THE EUROPEAN
ALLIES NEED TO KNOW IF WE DO
CLOSE OFF THE OIL AND GAS
SUPPLIES FROM RUSSIA IN ORDER TO
BRING THIS WAR TO A QUICKER
CLOSE, THAT AMERICA WILL STEP UP
TO THE PLATE AND DO WHAT IT DOES
BEST, PRODUCE ENERGY LIKE
NOWHERE ELSE IN A CLEANER
FASHION.
SO, I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULD
SANCTION THE OIL.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO CLOSE OFF
THE GAS.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP OUR
ALLIES BUT LET THIS BE A LESSON
TO EVERYBODY.
IF YOU HAVE TO COZY UP TO
CERTAIN REGIMES AND TO DICTATORS
AND AYATOLLAHS FOR THINGS LIKE
ENERGY THAT RUN OUR SOCIETIES
AND OUR CIVILIZATIONS YOU PUT
YOURSELF IN A VERY PRECARIOUS
SITUATION.
WE DON’T HAVE TO DO THAT.
THE EUROPEANS ARE FINDING THAT
OUT THE HARD WAY.
WE SHOULD STEP THE CONVERSATIONS
WITH OUR ADVERSARIES, HAVE A
CONVERSATION WITH OURSELVES,
LET’S GO GOING, DO WHAT AMERICA
DOES BEST, PRODUCE AS MUCH
ENERGY AS POSSIBLE.
DAVID: BY THE WAY, GOVERNOR, I’M
LOOKING AT THE MONTHLY FIELD
PRODUCTION OF OIL MONTH BY MONTH
OVER THE PAST, GOES BACK 20, 30
YEARS HERE AND OIL WENT FROM
13 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY, THAT
WAS THE AVERAGE IN
DECEMBER 2019.
IT HAS GONE DOWN FROM 13 MILLION
TO 11 1/2 MILLION BARRELS A DAY
IN DECEMBER OF 2021.
IF WE GOT SOME KIND OF A GREEN
LIGHT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION,
COULD WE GET BACK THAT 1 1/2
MILLION BARRELS THAT WE’RE
MISSING NOW?
>> I THINK IF THIS
ADMINISTRATION SENT A STRONG
MESSAGE THAT WE’RE GOING TO BE
CONSISTENT AND LONG TERM IN OUR
ENERGY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK YOU
WOULD HAVE INVESTORS INVEST DOWN
IN THE PERMIAN UP IN THE BAKKEN.
INVESTORS WOULD INVEST IN
ALASKA.
WE HAVE A READY GAS LINE WITH
COPIOUS AMOUNT OF GAS WE COULD
SERVE OUR ASIAN ALLIES.
THE SIGNAL NEEDS TO COME FROM
THE ADMINISTRATION.
AS LONG AS THEY’RE LOOKING
AROUND THE WORLD TO ASK
QUESTIONABLE REGIMES WITH OUR
OIL AND GAS I THINK INVESTORS
WILL WONDER AND SCRATCH THEIR
HEADS, IF THIS ADMINISTRATION IS
SERIOUS.
DAVID: THIS IS A WORLDWIDE
EMERGENCY.
THE WORLD IS AT RISK.
IT IS NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES
AND WE HAVE TO STEP UP TO THE
PLATE.
WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT.
GOVERNOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR