hear me clearly america
is not a racist country
it's backwards to fight discrimination
with
different types of discrimination and
it's wrong
to try to use our painful past to
dishonestly shut down
debates in the present boy that's some
i still marvel over but now my question
is real simple
shouldn't republicans conservatives and
for that matter everyone else just
follow senator scott's lead and his
elegant platform
against woke-ism and cancel culture and
critical race theory and high taxes
and welfare without work fair and by the
way
our next guest ben carson former
distinguished housing secretary
he says we should be focusing on not
equity but any but in equality
that's what we should focus on not a
matter of equity it's a matter of
equality of
opportunity um ben thank you for coming
back on the show
uh i've spent absolutely larry i've
spent some time
dissecting and talking about what tim
scott said because
you know that's it's a tough sell to do
the counter-attack as you know
against the state of the union and i
thought he made a tremendous statement
and ben i think in some ways
because of what scott has done and
because of what you have done
including your op-ed piece but also you
just being you
these many years we actually may have
the wokes on the run if we continue this
what do you think
well i think a lot of people are truly
waking up and seeing what's going on
and recognizing that you know the things
that are the foundations of our country
are not the things that are being
espoused by the woke
generation you know we have never been a
country
that tried to punish people who didn't
agree with us
we have never been a country that would
choose one group over another group
rather than try to have
fairness and justice now we've not
always succeeded at that there's no
question about that
but we've made enormous progress and we
recognize
what is right versus what is wrong does
it does it
sound right to judge people
based on a characteristic that they
cannot change
that they had nothing to do with or
would it be better to judge them based
on things that they have
you know dominion over that that's the
only thing that makes any sense and i
think the american people are starting
to realize that
and i think a lot of people are getting
sick and tired quite frankly
well that of this wokeness that's my
thought i mean
between your work and and senator
scott's work
i think uh this is a pivotal moment
since the election
where for the first time more
traditional
conservative forces have the progressive
left left
back on their heels back on their heels
yeah abs
they do i mean i think biden was taken
by surprise ben you know what i'm saying
i think he was not prepared for what
scott said and i just want to read
your key line from your op-ed uh
which was in mid-april but i don't want
to forget about this
you say the focus has moved from
equality to equity
and you're saying instead of pursuing
reverend martin luther king's
junior's ideal of judging people by the
content of their character
rather than the color of their skin
equity would reward and punish people
because of the color of their skin
rather than equality of opportunity
equity would mandate equality of
outcome which runs counter to all
america's traditions
now i think the time is now we should be
outspoken on this we should not be
bashful we should be outspoken
on everything you're saying on
everything scott's saying
we have to be because what are we doing
to our children
what is happening when children are told
if they're white that you're inherently
evil you're the cause of
so many problems and if you're black
that you're a victim
you know as as children are trying to
develop
their own self-concept and now you're
throwing heaping all of this
garbage on top of them what effect
is that going to happen in the long run
you couple that with some of the other
crazy things we're doing like
you know frightening kids to death about
a virus which is rapidly dissipating and
which we've gotten control of them which
children can't even
you know transmit very well but little
children
develop a lot of their sense of who a
person is and what they mean by looking
at their face and their facial
expressions
what happens when that doesn't happen
how does that affect their socialization
process
so they don't have that socialization at
the same time they have people telling
them that they're evil or that they're
victims
and that the whole society needs to be
changed
i really believe that the majority of
americans know better than that
you know it was a bait and switch you
know during the election
uh joe biden was supposed to be moderate
he's probably to the left of bernie
sanders
um so i think people are saying
you know they're waking up from being
caught in the headlights
and are still going to start thinking
but you know this is not about as i've
said before democrats and republicans
this is about people who appreciate
america
for the ideal of liberty and freedom and
justice
versus people who want something
completely different a utopian society
where the government takes care of you
from cradle to grave
and you give them all power that doesn't
work
you know and i dare say
biden and harris and the others
do not know how to handle you and scott
and others and the arguments you all are
making i don't think they know how to
handle it
and one of the things i love about what
you all are doing
is you're dealing with these issues
including this
uh racist issue head-on
head-on and fighting back with american
values that's why i'm
begging all of you to just go out there
and be as public as you possibly can
i don't think the other side can deal
with it and that is the way it should be
you just got to fight back for too long
we didn't fight back
well there's a god up there and god is
for justice
and i consult him frequently for wisdom
how do we get through all this craziness
because i i do think it's just a phase i
do believe that we will come back
and be sensible and logical again but
right now we're going through this
horrible phase but this face is waking
people up it's getting them out of their
apathy
because apathy is the stage of
civilization that
frequently pre uh is just before
the tyranny so i'm glad we're waking up
be honest with you thank you ben thank
you for your service
thank you anytime i can help lord knows
thank you for your service ben carson
folks
great words of wisdom