THAT WITH OUR PANEL.
TRACE GALLAGHER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SOME DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING FOR A
TOUGH ACTION AGAINST THE
PRESIDENT.
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" BOARD
ARGUES DEMOCRATS FACE A
POLITICAL DILEMMA.
MR. TRUMP LIED TO HIS PUBLIC
ABOUT HIS DEALINGS AND BILL
CLINTON LIED.
DAVE BROWN AND JIM AND MARK.
WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU GENTLEMEN.
LET’S FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
I WANT PLAY SOMETHING FROM ALAN
DERSHOWITZ TALKING ABOUT THIS
IDEA OF A DOUBLE STANDARD.
>> WE NEED A SINGLE STANDARD.
IF YOU WOULD NOT GO AFTER BILL
CLINTON, DON’T GO AFTER DONALD
TRUMP.
IF YOU GO AFTER DONALD TRUMP YOU
HAVE TO GO AFTER HILLARY
CLINTON.
>> Shannon: DO YOU HAVE TO DO
ONE TO DO THE OTHER?
>> THEY ARE SEPARATE.
WHAT HE IS TOUCHING ON IS THE
FACT EVEN AFTER COMEY CAME IN
AND TESTIFIED THERE IS AN
UNSETTLED QUESTION ABOUT THE
APPROACH.
WHETHER THE PROSECUTORS
APPROACHED HILLARY CLINTON THE
SAME WAY OF TRUMP.
THE ISSUE IS UNRESOLVED.
YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED AS A
CITIZEN HAVE THEY POLITICIZED
THE PROCESS WITH TWO SETS OF
RULES?
THAT’S A FAIR POINT.
>> Shannon: JIM COMEY SOMETHING
HE SAID THIS WEEKEND.
LOOK AT HIM AND SAY HAS HE
REMAINED NEUTRAL?
HERE’S WHAT HE SAID ON SUNDAY.
>> ALL OF US SHOULD USE EVERY
BREATH WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE LYING STOPS ON JANUARY 20,
2021.
I UNDERSTAND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE
IMPORTANT DEBATES ABOUT WHO
THEIR CANDIDATE SHOULD BE.
THEY HAVE TO WIN!
>> Shannon: DAVE, THAT WILL BE
FUEL ON THE FIRE OF THOSE JOSE
THERE IS A DEEP STATE
CONSPIRACY.
THEY WERE WORKING AGAINST
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HE GOT
ELECTED.
NOW THEY WILL TRY TO TAKE HIM
DOWN.
>> I SUPPOSE A CONCLUSION SOME
WOULD DRAW.
I THINK IT’S THE WRONG
CONCLUSION.
I AM IN A UNIQUE POSITION ON
THIS PANEL OF FEELING LIKE I
HAVE TO DEFEND JIM COMEY EVEN
THOUGH I AM ANGRY WITH HIM FOR
HIS CONDUCT IN 2016.
HE IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN NOW.
IF THAT’S HIS SENTIMENT I
RESPECT HIS ABILITY TO VOCALIZE
THAT SENTIMENT.
I AGREE WITH HIM.
WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING TO
ENSURE THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT
REELECTED IN 2020.
>> Shannon: WHAT IS HE FACING
WITH NOT JUST THE RUSSIAN
INVESTIGATION?
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE DIDN’T
GET ANY REAL ANSWERS, BUT THIS
ISSUE OF COHEN AND THE PAYMENTS
TO WOMEN WILL BE TOUGHER FOR
FOLKS.
A PERSON WROTE THAT FEDERAL
PROSECUTORS PROVIDED A ROAD MAP
FOR TRUMP’S INDICTMENT.
WITH ANY OTHER PERSON THEY WOULD
HAVE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION WITH ANY OTHER PERSON THEY WOULD
HAVE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION
TO A GRAND JURY BY NOW.
>> HERE WHY THIS MUELLER PROBE
COULD BE A DISASTER FOR THE
DEMOCRATS, IF THIS WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE ABOUT RUSSIA TO AFFECT THE DEMOCRATS, IF THIS WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE ABOUT RUSSIA TO AFFECT THE
2016 ELECTION.
IF MUELLER FIND SOME EVIDENCE OF
THAT, THEN TRUMP WILL BE
IMPEACHED AND PROBABLY CONVICTED
WANT IF NOT, WE WON’T BE
CONVICTED.
THE MUELLER PROBE COULD FIND NO
EVIDENCE OF A CRIMINAL
CONSPIRACY WITH RUSSIA, BUT
MUELLER COULD COME UP WITH
EVIDENCE HE HAD OTHER CAMPAIGN
VIOLATIONS AND PORN STAR PAY
OFFS.
THAT’S A DISASTER FOR DEMOCRATS
BECAUSE THEIR BASE WILL DEMAND
IMPEACHMENT.
IT WOULD BE HARD TO RESIST THAT.
THAT WILL FAIL BECAUSE
TWO-THIRDS OF THE SENATE IS NOT
GOING TO CONVICT THE PRESIDENT
FOR PORN STAR PAY OFFS.
THERE WILL BE A MASSIVE
POLITICAL BACKLASH AGAINST HIM.
TRUMP VOTERS KNEW ABOUT HIS
RELATIONSHIPS WITH WOMEN AND
VOTED FOR HIM ANYWAY.
IMAGINE THE BACK LASH IN 2020.
THIS IS A DANGEROUS SLOPE FOR
THE DEMOCRATS.
EVERYBODY IS FOCUSSED ON DONALD
TRUMP’S POLITICAL PERIL.
THIS COULD BE PERIL FOR THE
DEMOCRATS.
>> Shannon: PROFESSOR SAID
CAMPAIGN FINANCE INVESTIGATION
ARE RARELY PROSECUTED AS
CRIMINAL MATTERS.
THAT’S JUST A FACT.
>> A LOT OF THE ONES THAT ARE
FINES INVOLVES PACTS AS OPPOSED
TO INDIVIDUALS.
THE POINT HE IS MAKING IS VALID.
WE HAVE TO GO WITH EVIDENCE.
THERE IS NO SUCH HYSTERIA AND
POSTURING IT’S HARD TO KNOW WHAT
THE EVIDENCE IS.
NONDISCLOSE AGREEMENTS MAY BE
UGLY THINGS BUT THEY ARE NOT
ILLEGAL.
IT DOESN’T MAKE IT A CAMPAIGN
FINANCE VIOLATION.
IT’S INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
TOTES THE SAME LINE THAT MUELLER
IS.
THERE IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH
THERE THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM
FOR THE PRESIDENT.
YOU CAN’T JUDGE THIS CASE FROM A
MICHAEL COHEN PLEA AGREEMENT AND YOU CAN’T JUDGE THIS CASE FROM A
MICHAEL COHEN PLEA AGREEMENT AND
THAT’S ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE.
WE ARE A FAR CRY FROM SIZING UP
THE PRESIDENT FOR A SUIT FOR
JAIL.
>> Shannon: 245 TIMES JIM COMEY
THE FORMER FBI DIRECTOR COULD
NOT REMEMBER.
DAVE, THESE ARE SUBSTANTIVE
THINGS, LIKE HOW THIS WHOLE
INVESTIGATION GOT STARTED.
WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
SOMETHING THAT MOST OF US
ASSUMED THE FBI DIRECTOR WOULD
KNOW.
>> YES.
SHANNON, YOU ARE A LAWYER.
JIM IS A LAWYER.
I WENT BACK AND READ MUCH OF THE
TRANSCRIPT TODAY IN PREPARATION I WENT BACK AND READ MUCH OF THE
TRANSCRIPT TODAY IN PREPARATION
FOR THIS PANEL.
WHAT STRUCK ME AS THE NUMBER OF
INSTANCES IN WHICH COMEY SAID HE WHAT STRUCK ME AS THE NUMBER OF
INSTANCES IN WHICH COMEY SAID HE
COULD NOT RECALL, HE WAS BEING
READ EXERPTS FROM TRIPLETS AND
TEXT MESSAGES, DOCUMENTS HE DID
NOT HAVE IN FRONT OF HIM AND
ASKING FOR A VERBATIM
ACCOUNTING, IS THAT ACCURATE?
THIEVES CAUTIOUS AND VERY
INTENTIONAL WITH HIS LANGUAGE.
HE HAS AN OBLIGATION TO TESTIFY
TRUTHFULLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESS. HE HAS AN OBLIGATION TO TESTIFY
TRUTHFULLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESS.IN THE 100 PAGES I REVIEWED, IT
WAS A GRUEL ING
IN THE 100 PAGES I REVIEWED, IT
WAS A GRUELLING RECITING OF
FACTS DATING BACK TO 2015.
I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE
WITHOUT DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF ME
AS WELL.
>> THE DEMOCRATS TAUGHT US THAT
THE PRESIDENT’S PRIVATE CONDUCT >> THE DEMOCRATS TAUGHT US THAT
THE PRESIDENT’S PRIVATE CONDUCT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU IMPEACH HIM
IS NOT SOMETHING YOU IMPEACH HIM
OVER.
CHUCK SCHUMER SAID THE MONICA
LEWINSKY THING WAS TAWDRY BUT
UNIMPEACHABLE AFFAIR.
IF THEY GO AFTER THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES THEY WILL
NUMBER DEEP POLITICAL TROUBLE.
>> Shannon: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MARK, OUR ONE NON-LAWYER.