>> Nina Turner, who serves as Bernie's campaign co-chair was on Chris Cuomo's show debating
a Democratic strategist named Hilary Rosen.
You might be familiar with Hilary Rosen, if you're not, I apologize for what you're about
to see.
Because this debate had to do with Martin Luther King Jr..
What he stood for, what he represented and what he feared when it came to the white moderates
in America, take a look.
>> Referenced Dr Martin Luther King before saying that he said from the Birmingham jail,
that we should be concerned about white moderates.
That's actually not what Martin Luther King said.
>> He did say that, how you gonna tell me about Dr Martin Luther King Jr, are you kidding
me?
>> What he said was we should be worried about the silence of white moderates, Nina, wait.
>> She's making a language point, Nina.
>> What he said was we should worry about the silence of white moderates.
And what we have in Joe Biden, is a man who is not silent.
>> What Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr was talking about, he said, it is the point
that the white moderate wants things to be comfortable.
And instead of focusing they know that the bigger threat is not necessarily the white
KKK member, but more the white moderate.
That is more comfortable with keeping things the same and pretending like there is no tension.
>> Don't use Martin Luther King against Joe Biden.
You don't have that standing, I'm sorry, you don't.
>> First of all, Hilary, don't tell me what kind of standing I have as a black woman in
America, how dare you?
>> You have a lot of standing as a black woman in America.
>> First of all, you're dabbling into something that I have to say, I did not get too well
with you.
>> You don't have the standing to attack Joe Biden using Martin Luther King's words.
>> Chris Cuomo had a mini stroke.
>> His face was just like.
>> That was the first time that I actually for some reason was paying attention to Cuomo's
face.
>> It's incredible.
>> As this was going down.
>> He's stroking out.
>> Yeah he's like, my God.
>> On the air he's like, yikes.
>> Okay, but let's talk about the substance of that debate, that discussion because it
was something.
Do you want to start Helen?
>> Listen, Nina Turner is a national treasure.
We need to make a movie about her starring Nicolas Cage.
>> Because, she is a goddamn national treasure, and then, you come for Nina Turner.
Your ish better be airtight like Tupperware because if your ish is not airtight, she gonna
come back at you, okay?
And don't tell a black person that they don't know about Martin Luther King, get out of
here blonde lady, come on.
>> Let me just also give you a little more biographical information about Hilary Rosen.
So you'll understand the types of things that she said in the past and the kind of trouble
she's gotten in.
So she's a Democratic strategist, which means that she's part of this.
>> One of the worst people in the world.
>> The current power structure that we're operating under, right?
She benefits from it, okay?
So she wants the status quo, she wants someone like Biden.
And is terrified by someone like Bernie Sanders.
And so, in the past though, she said some not so nice things about stay at home moms.
Something about how they're not really working, they're not workers.
Even though being a stay at home mom, I would argue is the hardest job in the world, okay?
If you have children and you get to go to a workplace, you're actually taking a vacation
from the actual work that takes place when you're at home.
Anyway, but that's just my opinion.
>> What Hilary Rosen said back in the day about working moms was so bad that the Obama
administration had to distance themselves from her.
That's the kind of woman she is.
And I'm about to give you her insanely offensive non-apology to Nina Turner in just a second,
but keep going.
>> So Martin Luther King, who, for the record, was a socialist, would have absolutely hated
Joe Biden.
He would have absolutely hated Joe Biden.
Joe Biden made his political career as a young Democratic politician in the 1970s by being
the first Northern Liberal to oppose school busing, right?
The racist Southern Democrats always opposed school busing to integrate schools, but the
Northern Liberals mostly supported it.
Joe Biden was the first defector of the Northern Liberals to give cover to the rest of Northern
Liberals to oppose busing, right?
That's why Strom Thurmond, one of the most racist people in the history of the United
States, loved Joe Biden and asked him to speak at his funeral, okay.
So Martin Luther King would have absolutely hated Joe Biden.
Because liberals at the time of Martin Luther King when he was alive, hated him.
Liberals found him annoying, they found him to be too loud.
They found his supporters to be annoying, does this sound familiar?
They were always saying, Dr King, we support what you want.
We support your goals, we want racial equality.
We want all these things.
We just don't agree with your methods.
We don't want you to disrupt things too much.
You have to be polite, you have to be nice to these people to win them over.
All this stuff, does this sound familiar to you, yeah?
>> Yes, you have to be patient.
>> You have to wait, wait your turn, not yet.
>> And that's what Dr King was talking about.
That those people are just as much of an impediment to progress as the sort of frothing at the
mouth reactionaries on the right.
>> And that's exactly what Nina Turner was trying to draw attention to in bringing up
Martin Luther King Jr and what his beliefs were.
And what he meant by that statement regarding white moderates.
And so you would think, all right, well, you hear a lot about mansplaining?
>> Yeah.
>> It happens time to time.
That was the race version of mansplaining.
>> That was racesplaining, and it was- >> Blacksplaining.
>> Yeah, and it was so incredibily- >> Irony.
>> Patronizing and insulting.
>> But if you thought that was insulting, let's go to Hilary Rosen's first attempt at
an apology.
Which ended up being so bad she took it down from Twitter.
I'll read it to you and maybe you can figure out why it was so bad.
She wrote the following, on air Thursday I said my colleague, Nina Turner, didn't have
standing to use MLK Jr..
That was wrong, I am sorry for saying those words.
>> Please, no need to defend me and attack angry black women.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> Wow!
>> I can't believe.
>> I mean, yes.
>> Wow.
>> I shouldn't say I can't believe, I can believe.
>> Damn.
>> 2020 has been one of the most clarifying times, that's one of the silver linings of
2020, that's very clarified.
Because for so long, liberals pretended to care about this kind of stuff.
>> You're right.
>> They pretended to care about white women talking down to black women, they used to
always.
And now that Joe Biden is leading to take it there, they're like, we can't care about
that stuff anymore.
We just kinda put our heads down and pretend it's not happening.
They don't care about any of it now.
They just completely thrown all that stuff that they used to pretend to care about because
they never actually cared about it.
>> The propping up of Bloomberg, and his sexism, his racism, that really crystallized it for
a lot of people.
I mean, it crystallized it for me as well.
But I had already realized prior to Bloomberg running that it goes further than even what
you say Nando.
And maybe I'm being unfair, I don't know, this is-
>> No, you're not.
>> My speculation.
>> I don't think they ever care about marginalized groups of people.
>> As I said, they used to pretend to care about it, and it was cynically.
>> They pretended to care to exploit, to use them for their own political gain.
>> Yeah.
>> That was all it was.
>> I mean, the whole Biden camp is like, I was Obama's vice president.
Then he's like, I have a black friend on a giant level.
I have the ultimate black friend, I had Obama as my black friend.
But let's not forget why Obama picked Biden as his vice president in the first place is
to calm down the scary white people, right?
>> I just like that he's not gonna do anything too crazy.
>> Yeah, look, he picked, like you were saying, the Democrat who was as far right as he could
get to be his running mate to not freak out the fact that they were voting for a black
guy for President, so let's not forget that.
So the whole campaign is like, I have a black friend, look, the ultimate black friend.
It's all baloney.