WEEK ON SEVERAL NORTH KOREAN
INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES.
>> Dana: TOP REPUBLICAN ON THE
HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
IS RAISING CONCERNS WE’RE IN A
NEW COLD WAR WITH RUSSIA.
TEXAS CONGRESSMAN MCCAUL SAYS
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
WEAKNESS IS NOT HELPING.
>> RATHER THAN THREATENING
AFTER AN INVASION TAKES PLACE
WE OUGHT TO BE PROVIDING
DETERRENTS BEFORE AN INVASION
TAKES PLACE.
THAT’S MY BIGGEST CRITICISM OF
THE ADMINISTRATION.
>> DO YOU THINK WE’RE IN A NEW
COLD WAR WITH RUSSIA?
>> I DO.
I DO BECAUSE I THINK PUTIN
AGAIN SMELLS WEAKNESS HERE.
>> Dana: GENERAL JACK KEANE IS
A FOX NEWS STRATEGIC ANALYST
AND FORMER VICE CHIEF OF STAFF
OF THE ARMY.
WANT TO PLAY FOR YOU TO SET THE
SCENE, HERE IS WHAT THE WHITE
HOUSE JAKE SULLIVAN SAID THIS
WEEKEND.
>> WHAT WE HAVE LAID OUT IS A
VERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE
RUSSIANS.
IF THEY DO FURTHER INVADE
UKRAINE THERE WILL BE SEVERE
ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES AND A
PRICE TO PAY.
YES, OF COURSE, IF IT TURNS OUT
THAT RUSSIA IS PUMMELING
UKRAINE WITH CYBERATTACKS AND
IF THAT CONTINUES OVER THE
PERIOD AHEAD, WE’LL WORK WITH
OUR ALLIES FOR THE APPROPRIATE
RESPONSE.
>> Dana: THE KREMLIN SAID THIS.
>> THERE ARE NO RUSSIAN TROOPS
IN UKRAINE.
THERE ARE RUSSIAN TROOPS ON
RUSSIAN SOIL.
>> Dana: THESE TWO SIDES
TALKING PAST EACH OTHER IT
SEEMS THAT RUSSIA IS DETERMINED
TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING HERE.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW AND SEE?
>> WELL, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH
CHAIRMAN MCCAUL.
IT HAS THE RESEMBLANCE OF THE
COLD WAR WHEN WE HAVE HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF TROOPS FACING
EACH OTHER.
SOVIET UNION AND NATO WE DON’T
HAVE THAT.
BUT THE MISSION OF THE UNITED
STATES AND NATO DURING THE COLD
WAR WAS TO DETER RUSSIAN
AGGRESSION AND EXPANSION.
IF THAT FAILS WE’RE IN A WAR
AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION.
THE MISSION NOW OF NATO IS
DETER RUSSIAN AGGRESSION AND
EXPANSION.
THE SAME MISSION.
WE’RE NOT DOING IT QUITE AS
WELL AS WE SHOULD BE.
LOOK, RUSSIA PUT 90,000 TROOPS
ON THE UKRAINE BORDER IN THE
SPRING AND WE DID WHAT?
NOTHING.
WE SHOULD HAVE PUT TROOPS INTO
NATO PARTICULARLY IN POLAND AND
THE BALTICS TO MAKE CERTAIN
THAT PUTIN GETS THE MESSAGE
WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY
FURTHER EXPANSION.
I WOULD HAVE GIVEN PUTIN A
LAUNDRY LIST OF SIGNIFICANT
MILITARY CAPACITY THAT I INTEND
TO PUT INTO UKRAINE UNLESS HE
DE-ESCALATES AND GETS THE
TROOPS OFF THE BORDER. I’M
TALKING ABOUT ANTI-AIRCRAFT
MISSILES, ANTI-SHIP MISSILES
AND A BUNCH OF THE OTHER THINGS
ON THEIR CRITICAL SIGNIFICANT
LIST WHICH WE HAVE AVOIDED TO
DATE.
ALSO AGREE WITH MCCAUL THAT
WE’RE SHOWING WEAKNESS HERE IN
THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE YES,
WE DIDN’T DO THAT AND DOESN’T
IT APPEAR THAT WHY IS PUTIN
BACK IN THE FALL AND WINTER WAS
THE ACCELERANT ALSO AFGHANISTAN
AND THE FIASCO THAT SHOWED THE
UNITED STATES WEAKNESS THAT WE
WALKED AWAY FROM A 20-YEAR ALLY
BECAUSE WE DIDN’T WANT TO TAKE
ANY MORE AMERICAN CASUALTIES
AFTER ALL OF THAT TIME?
WHAT IS PUTIN DRAWING FROM THAT?
I THINK HE IS LOOKING AT THE --
AT OUR DETERRENTS HERE, LISTEN
TO WHAT SULLIVAN AND BLINKEN
ARE SAYING.
LARGELY ECONOMIC SANCTIONS.
DO YOU THINK THE CHINESE,
RUSSIA’S NUMBER ONE TRADING
PARTNER IS GOING TO REINFORCE
THE UNITED STATES AND SHUT DOWN
ALL THE EXPORTS AND IMPORTS
THAT ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH
BETWEEN THOSE TWO COUNTRIES?
I DOUBT IT.
I THINK THE DETERRENTS OF
ECONOMIC SANCTIONS HAS A
HOLLOWNESS TO IT.
>> Dana: GENERAL, I WONDER WHAT
YOU THINK IN TERMS OF MILITARY
STRATEGY.
LAST WEEK WE HAD A GUEST THAT
SAID THEY DID NOT BELIEVE PUTIN
WOULD DO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW IN
THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS BECAUSE
THE GROUND IS FROZEN BECAUSE OF
WINTER.
FROM A MILITARY STRATEGY
STANDPOINT OR TACTICALLY DO YOU
AGREE WITH THAT?
>> NO. WHEN THE GROUND IS FROZEN HE
WHEN THE GROUND IS FROZEN HE
CAN MOVE HIS ARMORED FORCES.
THERE IS A POLITICAL HOLD-UP.
THAT’S ONE THING.
THERE LIKELY WAS WEEKS AGO THE
MILITARY CONDITION OF THE KIND
OF SURFACE MOBILITY THAT THEY
WANT TO HAVE HAD NOT BEEN
ESTABLISHED.
IT IS BEING ESTABLISHED NOW.
I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT
PREMISE.
>> Dana: I’VE BEEN WONDERING