AINSLEY: I REMEMBER COVERING
YEARS AGO DO YOU ALL REMEMBER
WHEN CALIFORNIA SHUTDOWN THE
WHOLE WATER SYSTEM, IT WAS
LIKE BASICALLY, AN ENVIRONMENTAL
TOO WORRIED ABOUT AND THE
FAMILIES, THEY DIDN’T HAVE
WATER, THE COULD LOBE QUALITY
HAD A LITTLE PROBLEM SIX MONTHS
AGO AND THERE WERE LINES FIVE OR
SIX MILES LONG, IN SOME SPOTS.
BRIAN: MEANWHILE, BEFORE, WHO
IS THE ONE WHO SPOKE TO A WHILE
AGO?
STEVE: THAT BE ME.
BRIAN: SO YOU TALKED TO HIM
ABOUT LINE FIVE?
STEVE: WE TALKED TO SOMEBODY WHO
WORKS ONLINE FIVE, AND WE TALKED
TO SOMEBODY WHO WORKS AT A
REFINERY, THAT TAKES THE FUEL
FROM LINE FIVE, AND REFINES IT,
AND HERE’S WHAT THEY SAY BE THE
IMPACT IF THEY PULL THE
PLUG.
>> GOING TO IMPACT THE WORKERS
IN NORTHERN MICHIGAN.
THERE’S COMPRESSOR STATIONS
ALL ALONG THIS LINE THAT HELPED
PUSH THE GAS AND THE OIL THROUGH
THE LINE AND I REPRESENT THE
NORTHERN 29 AND A HALF
COUNTIES IN THE LOWER PENINSULA
MICHIGAN, SO WE TYPICALLY WORK A
COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND MAN
HOURS A YEAR ON THIS LINE.
>> I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULD WANT TO
LOSE GOOD PAYING UNION JOBS,
HURT PEOPLE ON AN INCOME BECAUSE
IF THE PRICE OF FUEL GOES UP THE
PRICE OF EVERYTHING GOES UP
INCLUDING HEATING YOUR HOME, AND
MAKE US COMPETITIVELY
DISADVANTAGED TO THE REST OF THE
WORLD, ESPECIALLY HERE IN
THE MIDWEST.
AINSLEY: LET’S BRING IN OHIO GOP
CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN TO
DISCUSS THIS.
CONGRESSMAN, THIS AFFECTS MANY
OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THE MAN WE
JUST HEARD THERE, HE WAS IN
TOLEDO, HE’S THE TOLEDO REFINERY
COMPANY AND HE HELD UP A PIECE
OF WHAT THE PIPE LOOKS LIKE, AND
HE SAYS IT’S ROBUST, IT’S HEAVY,
IT’S SUBSTANTIAL PIECE OF
AMERICAN STEEL.
HE SAID THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES
SAY THAT THE EXISTING LINE IS
SAFE AND THEY’RE ACTUALLY
BUILDING A TUNNEL UNDER IT, JUST
IN CASE THERE IS A RISK OF IT
EVER BREAKING, BUT HE SAYS THE
RISK BECAUSE OF THAT TUNNEL
ARE MINIMAL TO ZERO.
WHAT’S YOUR REACTION, WHAT ARE
YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAYING?
>> YOU KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE
SAFER THAN THE ONE THEY APPROVED
IN RUSSIA, THE NORD STREAM
PIPELINE.
THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE,
IT’S LIKE ONE OF THESE GUYS WANT
, $8 GAS?
LAST WEEK IN THE COMMITTEE,
DEMOCRAT MEMBER OF CONGRESS WE
HAD BIG OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVES
IN THERE FROM CHEVRON, EXXON, BP
, AND RO KHANA WAS
SAYING WILL YOU COMMIT TO
REDUCING A LOWERING PRODUCTION,
SO JOE BIDEN BEGS OPEC TO
INCREASE PRODUCTION, AND
DEMOCRAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
BADGER AMERICAN COMPANIES TO
DECREASE PRODUCTION?
THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
IT’S LIKE THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY
TRYING TO HARM AMERICAN FAMILIES
AND AMERICAN WORKERS AND I DON’T
GET IT.
I DON’T THINK THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE GET IT AND THAT’S WHY JOE
BIDEN IS AT 38% OR WHATEVER
NUMBER HE’S AT NOW.
BRIAN: CONGRESSMAN YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ME BUT I HEARD THAT
BETTER THAN ME BUT I HEARD THAT OHIO BEGAN TO COME BACK ECONOMIC
>> AINSLEY: THEY KNOW BETTER
THAN US, THEY WANT TO FORCE US
TO GET , YOU KNOW, ALL THESE
GREEN ENERGY CARS AND HAVE WIND
TURBINES IN OUR BACKYARD BUT ARE
THEY LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE?
WHEN WE INTERVIEW EVERY SINGLE
DAY, WE INTERVIEW PEOPLE WHOSE
JOBS ARE AT RISK FROM THESE
PIPELINES, OR , RESTAURANT
OWNERS WHO SAY WE CAN’T STAY
OPEN ANY LONGER THIS IS OUR
SOURCE OF INCOME AND WE
INTERVIEWED ONE LADY WHO HAS A
MEXICAN RESTAURANT, LISTEN TO
WHAT SHE SAYS.
>> WE ARE BUYING MAYBE EVERY
TWO TO THREE DAYS JUST WHAT WE
NEED, SO WE DON’T STOCK UP ON
ANYTHING, OR JUST REALLY PINCH
ING PENNIES, AND RUNNING
AROUND A LOT TRYING TO GET
PRODUCTS THAT WE REALLY NEED
, US MOM AND POP SHOPS WOULD
REALLY REALLY WORK HARD AND THIS
IS OUR DREAM, AND WE WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH
BIGGER CORPORATIONS, SO THEN ALL
OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES MIGHT
NOT SURVIVE IT, AND THAT’S WHAT
THIS COUNTRY IS BASED ON IS
PEOPLE LIKE US.
AINSLEY: NOW THEY WANT TO SPEND
MORE MONEY ON THE SOCIAL
SPENDING BILL, TRILLIONS OF
DOLLARS THAT WE DON’T HAVE.
>> OF COURSE THEY AREN’T LISTEN
ING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
THE ENERGY SECRETARY LAUGHS WHEN
SHE GETS A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION
ABOUT INCREASING PRODUCTION, SO
WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE WE HAD JUST 10
MONTHS AGO, THE DEMOCRATS AFTER
GLENN YOUNGKIN’S BIG WIN AFTER
THE TRUCK DRIVER BEATS THE
SENATE MAJORITY LEADER IN
NEW JERSEY THE DEMOCRATS DO WHAT
JUST PROCEED WITH THEIR CRAZY
LEGISLATION AND PASS THE NEXT
BILL TOO SO OF COURSE THEY DON’T
LISTEN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,
THAT’S THE UNFORTUNATE PART, AND
THE LAST PERSON ON THERE, YOU
SEE THE RESPONSE THAT THEY GET
AND WHAT THEY ARE HAVING TO
DEAL WITH SO THIS IS ALL BAD FOR
AMERICAN FAMILIES, BUT THIS
IS THE LEFT, THIS IS TODAY
’S LEFT, THEY ARE SMARTER,
BETTER AND THEY KNOW MORE THAN
ALL OF US REGULAR FOLKS AND KEEP
DOING CRAZY THINGS AND THE ONLY
WAY YOU STOP THEM IS BEAT THEM
AT THE BALLOT BOX LIKE IN
VIRGINIA A WEEK AGO.
BRIAN: SO CONGRESSMAN YOU HAVE
A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR BUT YET
YOU FEEL AS THOUGH YOU’VE BEEN,
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET YOU OUT
BY REDISTRICTING YOUR DISTRICT
AND HAVE YOU GO AGAINST THE
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN.
WHAT’S GOING ON HERE?
>> WELL, I MEAN, JOHN BOEHNER
TRIED THIS 10 YEARS
AGO AND IT DIDN’T WORK THEN, I
THINK IT’LL WORK OUT IN THE END,
I PLAN ON RUNNING AND WE’LL SEE
HOW IT ALL SHAKES OUT.
THESE THINGS, THEY TAKE A WHILE.
WE’LL SEE HOW IT ALL PANS OUT
BUT I PLAN ON RUNNING FOR
RE-ELECTION AND I HOPE THAT
AS I SAID BEFORE, I THINK WE’RE
GOING TO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE AND
LORD WILLING I’LL GET A CHANCE
TO SHARE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
WHICH IS THE COMMITTEE THAT’S
SUPPOSED TO PROTECT YOUR FIRST
AMENDMENT LIBERTY SOMETHING THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
ATTACKING FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW.
BRIAN: WHAT’S BEHIND THIS?
>> I’M NOT SURE.
I MEAN, WE’RE LOSING THE SEAT,
THERE’S SOME NEGOTIATIONS THAT
TAKES PLACE, SO AGAIN, WE’LL SEE
THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN
CONTROL AND HOPEFULLY IT’LL WORK
OUT JUST FINE, BUT WE’LL HAVE TO
WAIT AND SEE.
STEVE: OKAY, IN A COUPLE OF
WEEKS, YOUR NEW BOOK IS COMING
OUT FOLKS CAN PRE-ORDER IT IT’S
CALLED "DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU
WOULD DO" FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM
IN THE SWAMP IT COMES OUT
NOVEMBER 23.
CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH