- Right here, on the Tech Yes desk,
we have the elusive Radeon Fury.
Now I finally got my hands on one of these
in a used parts hunt, where I got it for
$150 Aussie Dollars.
If you haven't seen that parts on,
I'll put the link up here where I got
a heap of other epic deals while
I was out getting this one right here.
But I finally got my hands on one,
it's been evading me for some time because
whenever they've come up they've gone up
for a price that I'm not prepared to pay.
Especially since when I look for a graphics card,
I'm looking at it's price performance
and that's what we're gonna be testing here today
with the Radeon Fury 4 Gigabyte model
versus the RX 570 4 Gigabyte model.
Now this comes from an era where AMD had 28 nanometer.
They had the R9 390, 390X and then
they made the Fury and also the Fury X
which was a beefed up version of this
with a water cooler.
This is the Strix edition here,
it's got three 90 mil fans and it weighs in at 1.1kg.
And we're gonna be comparing that
to the RX 570 4 Gigabyte model as well,
to see which of these is the midway champion
for price performance.
Now, of course this is going to use up a lot more power
than the RX 570 it's got two 8-pin connector in's.
This has only got one 8-pin power connector in.
And of course, the RX 570 is on 14 nanometer as well.
But with that out of the way, we're gonna do a
1080p showdown on these two cards to see if the
Fury is worth it if you're in the market for something
of price performance and you don't care a whole lot
about power consumption or of course,
where you live power is cheap.
Now before we do that, the person I bought this off
they actually said they knew who I was and
they also said I wouldn't need to be giving this
GPU any Tech Yes loving because they already cleaned it.
However, upon further inspection I saw that that
sticker is still intact on the screw holes.
Which means, that the GPU thermal piece
hasn't been replaced.
And while we're at it, we might as well give it
some quick Tech Yes loving.
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So the Radeon Fury was a very interesting card
for it's time because it's the first
gaming graphics card to use HBM memory and
this was the first generation and
ironically they could only fit 4 Gigabytes
of VRAM on the Fury and the Fury X.
And you can see this on the dye here
where that memory is actually located
right next to the GPU itself, rather than
your GDDR5 which would go around the dye
and give a little bit more breathing room.
But because it was the first time a GPU
had lower VRAM than a card lower in the stack,
and we're talking about the R9 390 and 390 X
8 Gigabyte models.
Now the Fury itself was actually a cut down
version of the Fury X and that had 4096 stream
processors when the Fury had 3584.
It did have the same memory, it did have the same memory
bus of 4096 bit and a bandwidth of 512.0 Gigabytes
but it's bandwidth meant that the memory clocks itself
was at a lower speed.
500 Megahertz or basically in GPU terms
1000 Megahertz effectively.
The one thing you may notice is
they've use a thermal pad instead of using thermal paste,
and now reasons for doing this could come to the fact
that they might not want the GPU to risk cracking
because if you got a cooler mounted directly to the GPU
and it gets too hot and the heat expands and then
it contracts, that can risk ruining the actual GPU itself
in the form of cracking the dye.
That would probably be the only reason I can think of
of why they used it on this GPU since we're looking at
the dye size and that is absolutely massive.
It's one of the biggest GPU dye sizes in history
of graphics cards.
But regardless of this, this isn't gonna stop me
from putting thermal paste on.
Putting some washes on the back and then
testing out the temperatures and seeing
how well this card performs.
So now we've been running this benchmark
for a little over five minutes already and
it's starting to throttle a little bit under that
1 Gigahertz core clock so unfortunately for the Strix
here, we won't be doing any over clocking on this GPU
which is sad because the Strix is known to be
one of the best air coolers out there on the market.
It's also using over 390 Watts at times so
that's more than a 280 Super and it's coming in the realm
of a 280 Ti sometimes.
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So we've finished up the benchmarks with the Radeon Fury,
and coming into this I gotta say I was kind of
sure that I was going to lean into the fence of
don't even bother with a Fury or a Fury X and
just go for a RX 570 or a RX 580 but after doing the
benchmarks here and we'll just pull up
some of the numbers we got here at 1080p.
We see that in Strange Brigade, the Fury handed a
smack down to the RX 570 and then we're moving onto
F1 2019 it was a similar story.
It was handing out another smack down and
these are both OC models too, like the Strix is
I guess comparably not an OC model for the
Fury since it pretty much throttles a little bit
does hit that maximum temperature, we'll talk about that
a little bit later.
The Gigabyte is an Aorus OC model as well.
We can see that the numbers are heavily favoring
the Fury in these first two titles,
but we move over to Dota 2 it was actually
the opposite side of the fence where we got 175
average FPS and then for the Fury we got 170.
Moving over to Far Cry New Dawn,
the Fury did flex a little bit but
it wasn't as big as those first two titles.
72 versus 66 average FPS.
And then moving onto the Shadows of the Tomb Raider,
we saw an actual equal score here at 55 versus 55
at 1080 high settings so whether that has to do
with the 4 Gigabyte VRAM limit on plays,
especially in the case of Shadow of the Tomb Raider,
is up in the air since this does use HBM memory
versus this card right here which is using GDDR5.
So the HBM memory, it does add more bandwidth
but of course since it does have still a limit
of 4 Gigabytes it's still going to incur limits
on that VRAM itself.
And back in the day, I remember with the Fury
a lot of people said it's got higher bandwidth,
it's going to do a lot more with it's VRAM than the
other cards that have GDDR5 for example
could do with their VRAM.
And guys a VRAM buffer is a VRAM buffer, it's that simple.
I mean, if you're coming into problems with memory speeds
then that can relate to performance if it can't
fill the buffer fast enough.
But in terms of what can fill inside that buffer,
that's not getting any better the bigger
the bandwidth gets if that makes any sense.
So it's a really interesting time for AMD where
they're clearly trying to do the best with what they had.
And in terms of the Fury, it was just putting out
a lot of heat.
When we pull up this Power Consumption results here
we can see RX 570 is doing about 280 Watts,
the Fury is doing about 370 Watts so we got
an extra 90 Watts power draw on this whole system alone.
And in some titles we're getting similar FPS.
Now the HBM memory this was gen one and we can see
just by the sheer massive size of the dye
of this thing right here, that it was a huge
thing to keep under control.
A dye that big is obviously made that big for a reason
and that's gonna put out a lot of heat,
especially when you're in games.
And so the Strix model here with its 1.1 Kilo
cooler, three fans 90 mil fans it had a tough time
keeping this GPU under control to the point
where I couldn't get any overclocked out of it
and even then you wouldn't want to get any
overclocked out of this unit since it's already
throttling out of the box after a good 10 minutes
on a stress test.
And so that will affect your numbers slightly,
but for what it's worth it is geared up
with this cooler to run pretty much optimal settings
out of the box.
And when we compare that to the Aorus,
this is actually overclocked out of the box
and its stock cooler is pretty much
hitting it's limit.
You don't really want to
overclock this unless of course you're gonna
ramp the fan speeds up to 100%,
which is going to create a lot more noise
but you will manage to get some better scores
in comparison to the Fury.
That all it comes down to it, I was actually surprised
that in some of the titles this was coming out
well ahead of the RX 570.
Now, for $150 Aussie dollars I gotta say
besides the fact that it does chew up a bit more power
than I'd like it to it does perform quite well.
And as I said just coming into this outro a bit,
I thought that coming into this I was kind of like
the Fury's going to be a worthless purchase
it's not going to be worth the money but
running these benchmarks really changed my mind
in that it still can perform in 2019.
And it just depends on the title,
I mean if you manage your settings and
as I always say if you've got a graphics card
with a 4 Gigabyte VRAM limit and you're running
the maximum settings you may wish to tune things down
so you're not hitting that 4 Gigabyte VRAM limit.
So for what it's worth, this card right here
it can be a pretty good purchase especially
for the money if you find it at the right price.
And here's the ironic thing about this card,
as I've said in the past it's so hard for me
to get my hands on one of these GPU's.
They're very elusive and the fact is
they just weren't sold as much as a lot of other
cards out there, for instance I see a lot more
R9 290's, R9 390's on the market than I do than these.
And so this coming in at $150 Aussie dollars,
around about $100 USD, was actually pretty good deal
since it does in a lot of the cases get about
20% more performance than an RX 570 and even then
it will trade blows with an RX 580 and
that's a pretty good thing since an RX 580
generally costs a little bit more than $150 Aussie Dollars.
So all this now brings me to the conclusion of
the Radeon Fury and is it worth it?
And of course, anything can be worth it if you get it
for the right price.
I think at $150 Aussie Dollars and $100 USD roughly,
it would be worth it it's actually a decent buy
but keep in mind it does come with a few drawbacks
and actually quite a few.
And that is of course that power consumption
and the fact that it's going to be running hot.
And so when you've got that extra power consumption
you see me in the past, I'm using these cookie cutter cases
especially when I'm flipping PC's.
You're really gonna be hard pressed to be using this
in a cookie cutter $40 or $30 case and the reason being
is because those cases generally have poor airflow.
And so you dumping another 90 Watts inside that case,
is really gonna heat things up and heat things up quickly.
Not just for the GPU where it's going to throttle
even worse, but also for the rest of the components
inside the build.
So if you're going to get one of these,
keep in mind that you're going to need
a better power supply, you're going to need a better case.
And so that leaves me to the point of I wouldn't
be looking for these unless you find them for
a really good deal, and even then if you find one
do be prepared to cough up some extra money
in terms of the other augmented things
that you're gonna need in terms of
getting this running properly.
So basically in a nutshell, the Radeon Fury
and also the Fury X would be GPU's that
I wouldn't personally buy in bulk.
But that being said if they came up
at the right price and everything else in your area
like RX 570's, RX 580's and GTX 1060's
were all over priced and these just happened
to come up at a really good price then
I'd definitely snap if it up if it was at the right price.
Because ultimately, it is a card that can still
deliver the FPS in 2019 and call me a little bit weird
but the picture quality coming out of these older cards
like the GTX 7 series and also the Radeon Fury's
and stuff like that, I felt like it was the more raw image.
Nowadays, you've got so much compression going on
with your new AMD cards as well as newer video cards
that I feel at the very least a little bit
of detail is lost in translation.
But with that said I hope you guys enjoyed
today's comparison between the Radeon Fury and the RX 570.
If you did, then be sure to hit that like button for us
and also let us know in the comment section below
if these two cards were the same price
which would you pick and why.
Love reading your thoughts and opinions as always.
And before we get on out of here,
today's question of the day comes from
Trican Le and it's actually not really
a question but it's something I got to address
because in the last month I've been seeing
a lot more in particular just comments about AliExpress.
And he says "wow this man really bought PC parts
off of AliExpress".
And I don't know what it is about the
anti-AliExpress people out there,
I do get the people who hate the shipping times
sometimes the shipping times can be a month or more.
But I've been using AliExpress for over three years
and I haven't had one bad experience.
I've always got the stuff I've ordered,
for instance I've just ordered a heap of stuff right here
we got the 6 heat pipe version of the Snowman.
I'm really keen to do another look at that.
I've got some DDR 3 and DDR 4 memory for an upcoming video
were we're going to be testing some stuff like that.
I've got an A320 Earthshaker and wanted to check out
a budget $40 A320 off AliExpress.
And then we got this Jonsbo C2 case here,
which apparently is like micro ATX but the thing is
about AliExpress is, is that the parts are usually
very cheap and anyone in the world can get these
readily available.
You don't have to go through the trouble of deal hunting.
For instance, the Snowman for 20 bucks
I don't have to go down my PC shop and go
okay what air coolers have you got,
waste my time and then get something
that ends up costing more than this here
and most likely performs worst.
I mean when I tested out the Snowman cooler,
I was shocked at the value for money
that was bringing to the table.
So AliExpress is one of those things that's
starting to become a lot better as more people adopt it.
But in the terms of the service and the quality
of products you get it's really good value for money.
And that's why, I keep using AliExpress
and I'm a big fan of using a lot of the stuff off there.
You're getting stuff sent directly from the source
rather than going through a ton of middle men
to get to you.
And with that aside, I hope you enjoyed this video
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