KENNEDY: YEAH, THAT’S RIGHT.
SING IT, HALL AND OATES.
MY BAND.
THIS ACCORDING TO FORMER TWITTER
CEO JACK DORSEY WHO NOW SAYS
HE’S TAKING FULL RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE SHENANIGANS WE’RE
LEARNING IN THE TWITTER FILES,
THIS INCLUDES CENSORING THE
HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY,
SUPPRESSING CONSERVATIVE VOICES
AND WHATEVER DARK DEEDS ELON
MUSK HAS YET TO REVEAL.
JACK ALSO INSISTS THERE WAS
NEVER ANY POLITICAL
MOTIVATION -- THAT’S FUNNY -- OR
HIDDEN AGENDAS, EVEN FUNNIER.
BUT AS JUSTIN BIEBER ONCE SANG,
IS IT TOO LATE NOW TO SAY SORRY?
HERE WITH ME NOW EDITOR AT
TOWNHALL.COM, FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTE E KATIE PAVLICH.
GREAT TO KEY YOU -- TO SEE YOU,
KATIE.
>> GREAT TO SEE YOU.
KENNEDY: DOES THAT MEA CULPA
RING HOLLOW TO YOU?
>> WELL, IT RINGS HOLLOW IN THE
SENSE THAT HE’S TRYING TO ARGUE
THAT THERE WERE NO POLITICAL
REASONS WHY THESE THINGS WERE
HAPPENING.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH ALL OF E-MAILS
AND TRAFFIC THAT WE’VE SEEN
BEHIND THE SCENES, WE KNOW
THAT’S NOT TRUE.
TWITTER OBVIOUSLY WAS RUN BY A
BUNCH OF LIBERAL ACTIVISTS, SO I
THINK IT’S MORE INTERESTING TO
LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE WHEN
YOU READ THROUGH BASICALLY WHAT
HE WROTE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO
TWITTER.
AND IF CEOS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
CAN TAKE A SOME LESSONS FROM HIM
IN THE SENSE THAT HE SAYS, LOOK,
I GOT PUSHED AROUND.
I ALLOWED ACTIVISTS TO COME INTO
THE COMPANY AND TO MAKE THESE
ARGUMENTS THAT WE SHOULD BE
CENSORING INFORMATION, AND HAY
DID.
AND THEN EVERYTHING STARTED TO
FALL APART BECAUSE WE COULDN’T
KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE HAD SET
OURSELVES UP FOR.
AND ACTUALLY WHEN HE GIVES
SOLUTIONS TO MOVING FORWARD AS
WE’RE HEARING A LOT ABOUT
REGULATION ON CAPITOL HILL AND
SAYING THINGS IMMEDIATE TO BE
DONE TO REIN IN BIG TECH AND
ISSUE REGULATIONS ON A FEDERAL
LEVEL FOR SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES, HE’S SAYING, LOOK, WE
HAVE TO GIVE POWER BACK TO THE
PEOPLE, BACK TO THE USER, AND
THE MISTAKE THAT TWITTER MADE
WAS BUILDING TOOLS INSIDE THE
COMPANY TO CONTROL INFORMATION
RATHER HAND BUILDING TOOLS FOR
USERS TO CONTROL INFORMATION
THEMSELVES AND TO DECIDE HOW HAY
WANTED TO USE THE PLATFORM --
THEY WANTED TO USE THE PLATFORM.
IT’S INTERESTING TO READ THROUGH
WHAT HE WROTE, AND I THINK
PEOPLE WATCHING SHOULD TAKE SOME
LESSONS ABOUT NOT ALLOWING YOUR
COMPANY TO BE TAKEN OVER BY A
BUNCH.
OF WOKE ACTIVISTS --
KENNEDY: THEY BE NEVER LIKE YOU.
YOU WILL NEVER APPEASE THEM
THE --
>> EXACTLY.
KENNEDY: THERE’S NO WAY THAT YOU
CAN MOVE HAIR AGENDA FORWARD
FIRELY.
THEY -- FIRELY --
SATISFACTORILY.
IT’S REALLY CONVENIENT FOR HIM
TO SAY NOW, BUT HE WAS THE CEO
OF A COMPANY THAT WAS VALUED AT
TIME FOR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
AND, YOU KNOWINGS OR ALL WE KNEW
ABOUT HIM WAS THAT HE WAS
DRINKING SALT SHAKES WHICH WAS
JUST, YOU KNOW, SALT, WATER AND
LEMON JUICE, AND HE WOULD WALK
TO WORK 5 MILES, AND HE WOULDN’T
EAT UNTIL FRIDAY.
IT’S, LIKE, BUDDY, GRAB A
SANDWICH AND GROW A PAIR --
>> A CAVEMAN.
KENNEDY: YOU KNOW, IT’S LIKE FOR
HIM, IT WASN’T HEM, SERVICE ME.
YEAH, IT WAS YOU AND IT WAS THEM
X IT WAS POLITICAL, AND I DO
THINK HE COMMITTED PERJURY IN
2018 WHEN HE SAT BEFORE CONGRESS
UNDER OATH AND SAID THAT TWITTER
WASN’T SHADOW BANNING PEOPLE.
THEY WERE, AND IT WASN’T JUST
ONE WAY THAT THEY WERE DOING IT.
THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS WE’VE
LEARNED IN THE TWITTER FILES.
THEY HAD, THEY WERE DEVELOPING
ON FLY A NUMBER OF TOOLS AND A
NUMBER OF WAYS OF SUPPRESSING
VOICES.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN JUST BETWEEN
THE USER AND THE PERSON
FOLLOWING THEM.
>> UH-HUH.
WELL, AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, THEY
WILL SAY -- HE WERE LYING.
THEY WERE LYING TO THE PUBLIC.
THEY WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE
GUIDELINES THEY WERE POUT --9ING
USERS.
THEY WERE IMP PRESENTING NEW
POLICY ON THE FLY THAT
CONVENIENTLY WENT ONE WAY ON THE
POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
DURING ELECTION SEASON THEY WERE
SAYING HE WERE TRYING TO PREVENT
INTERFERENCE IN ELECTIONS.
BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS, I THINK
IS, YES, THEY SHADOW BANNED
CONSERVATIVES, CENSORED
INFORMATION, BUT WHO WAS BEHIND
THAT AND WHO WERE THEY
PARTNERING WITHSOME THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
KENNEDY: YES.
>> THE FBI WAS WORKING WITH
THEM.
AND SO WHEN CONGRESS TAKES THIS
UP,ST NOT JUST ABOUT REGULATING
BIG TECH WHICH I THINK HAY DON’T
HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH
AND COULD GO VERY POORLY --
KENNEDY: AND GOVERNMENT IS RUN
BY --
>> BUT THE FBI --
[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
KENNEDY: YES, IT WAS THE FBI,
DHS ALL MEETING WITH TWITTER TO
SUPPRESS SPEECH.
THAT’S WHAT FINISH.
>> AND THAT’S THE ISSUE.